Martin Jol
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Gilzeanking
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my god. :roll:
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Anyone who wants to show their appreciation to BMJ, you can all sleep well at night knowing he gets a huge pay-off from the club as a result of us winning the cup.
It was written in his contract that if he was sacked but we won any cups later that same season, he would get a win bonus.
I think the same applies to UEFA Cup despite us losing to Getafe under his management.
It was written in his contract that if he was sacked but we won any cups later that same season, he would get a win bonus.
I think the same applies to UEFA Cup despite us losing to Getafe under his management.
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Except he didn't beat Middlesbrough.
So it's a little bit about Jol. :wink:
In fact, it's more about Tottenham Hotspur.
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Completely agree with you M8......I Could not believe it when he took Chimbonda off...I Really thought that the first sub would be a swap for Zoko/The Hudd.....seeing he had a yellow card and I was worried we could end up with only Ten players....but such decisions can only be taken by really brave astute managers.....I am sure Grant did not see that coming..........I WAS A HUGE JOL FAN......but the first question I asked myself after we lifted the cup was??...We where 0-1 at half time would Jol have turned it around??....That, we will never know but much as I loved the big bear I sincerily doubt it.....COYS:bowdown::beer::beer::beer:
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Oh, look, it's that steaming berk who said we might as well email in the result.
tRiKS
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the turn around is similar in pattern to last season under Jol. Ramos has an extra edge and has woodgate and the use of King at Key times too.. lets face it.. big games King plays in for the last few seasons we, win or don't get beat.
Jol gets lots of credit for the platform Ramos has take up a level and If there was one critisisum i had of yesterday, was that not one player or even the current regime mentioned Jol at all. Gerard, carra and Benitez all mentioned Houllier after the CL 2005 win and i thought that was a classy way to draw a line under it all.
Once again thanks BMJ
Jol gets lots of credit for the platform Ramos has take up a level and If there was one critisisum i had of yesterday, was that not one player or even the current regime mentioned Jol at all. Gerard, carra and Benitez all mentioned Houllier after the CL 2005 win and i thought that was a classy way to draw a line under it all.
Once again thanks BMJ
Pleat_Out
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Not much good when we needed to beat Seville at home. I don't think there is any excuse for Jol's failings really. He was a shocking manager in terms of cup results and that was more than anything what probably lost him his job.
tRiKS
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i don't intend to sully his name any more with futile comparisons with what is now is a cup winning manager.
The only thing shocking is your over-exaggeration.
I'm done
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Actually it's Levy we should be thanking seeing as it was him who appointed Arnesen, Jol and Ramos (and against popular wisdom on each occasion). But I don't expect that will go down very well in some quarters either :wink:.
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Nah you're right, sloth. Props to the Levy man. The situation may have gotten out of hand, but he knew what he was doing - and in hindsight can probably wipe his brow clean.
He's delivered what is hopefully the first of many - backed all his staff to deliver. Now we just need that stadium please Dan!
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It is not an over-exaggeration at all. He holds the record for our worst cup season since we started playing in the league cup. So the worst over a 45 year period. Never have we lost both our first cup games in a season. In fact, I doubt many other top flight clubs have done this, if ever. And worst still, to Grimsby, a club from the bottom division (we've also never done this since the 4th division was created) and to Leicester, also a lower league club.
Apart from that, lower league clubs in the shape of Port Vale, Southend, Notts Forest and WBA, either drew with us at home or took us to extra time. Cardiff also took us to a replay at WHL. Then we finally did get past these clubs, we lost to the first half decent team we came up against every time (apart from Fulham away). And that is being kind given I'm including that Liverpool reserve side at home in 2004/05, the Arsenal mixed bag team last season and that awful Newcastle team under Souness.
So no, it is not an over-exaggeration to say he had a shocking cup record and given King played in most of these defeats, that remains a very poor excuse.
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what an ungrateful sod
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Yes, of course it does all go back to Levy but in terms of people on the football side, none were much more important than Arnesen. He was the one who wanted Jol as head coach. Levy instead decided to go for the 'big name' in the shape of Santini.
You can also argue the same was true with Ramos. He is a Comolli appointment, as Levy was at pains to stress after he got the job. Yet another point that will not go down well but fuck it, Comolli deserves some praise after the mauling he's had in the past 6 months! :clap:
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Hard to think Levy only sacked Jol in September!
The turn around has been sensational. Ramos is the man, however, Jol put Spurs on the right track. He just didnt have the experience at the top level. No doubt Jol will be celebrating but to see them win, without Jol and JD is a real shame - as they were a big part of 'the revolution'.
Id absolutley love to know what Fwank Arnesen thinks, now he's blue scum. Maybe BMJ can have a word, to congratulate him on the complete fuck-up he made in joining Roman's cash heap. If that relationship had been given a chance to blossom, then we would be in CL footie by now. Thanks Fwank!
And a big thank you to Big Martin. Yid forever.
The turn around has been sensational. Ramos is the man, however, Jol put Spurs on the right track. He just didnt have the experience at the top level. No doubt Jol will be celebrating but to see them win, without Jol and JD is a real shame - as they were a big part of 'the revolution'.
Id absolutley love to know what Fwank Arnesen thinks, now he's blue scum. Maybe BMJ can have a word, to congratulate him on the complete fuck-up he made in joining Roman's cash heap. If that relationship had been given a chance to blossom, then we would be in CL footie by now. Thanks Fwank!
And a big thank you to Big Martin. Yid forever.
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We can't forget Jol - he played an important part in this win and helped us get to the final. He was the one that turned it from no-hopers into a side to be reckoned with. It is sad to see so many ruin that fact.
Ramos, however, has been a revelation and there is no doubting he has made us a better team. Ramos' arrival was a natural progression - it wasn't like when we got rid of Gross and had to wipe the slate clean - and I think he would even acknowledge that Jol played an important role.
But we are a better band of fans and a better club to forget those who came before Ramos.
Ramos, however, has been a revelation and there is no doubting he has made us a better team. Ramos' arrival was a natural progression - it wasn't like when we got rid of Gross and had to wipe the slate clean - and I think he would even acknowledge that Jol played an important role.
But we are a better band of fans and a better club to forget those who came before Ramos.
