The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[hakano]

FM manager doesn't have rules especially after winning every comp possible over a 5 season period

to many live in lala land, because Man C, Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea don't have problems, and we have been finishing above them all a couple of times minimum since Poch took over, and we now have a massive stadium with the highest ST prices ………… oh wait a minute we haven't moved in yet and have refunded more than half back, and have paid Wembley over 20+m since the start, not forgetting missing out on 12k supporters money each week, on top of increasing a lot of staff's wages since the summer.

there are plenty that are getting refunds, and buying cheaper seats at Wembley

have you any idea how much they are refunding the corporate members? if they don't want to go to Wembley it will be millions.

we have had 2 home games, 1 at a rented MK Dons 1 at Wembley, the rent at Wembley and MK Dons most probably meant the takings at the MK earnt us diddly squat

we signed no 1 in the summer because the targets Poch wanted didn't want to come or there clubs put stupid terms or fees, like Ajax with de Ligt.

when Zaha turned us down the season before, rumours were he wanted more than what we were paying Kane. imagine if we actually did go back for him last summer, do you reckon his agent will of wanted the same figure, knowing we was meant to be going into a 62k seater stadium, 1 that charges high prices, and most wanted guaranteed 1st team football like he has at Palace.

De Jong wants to go to Barca, now I love Spurs with all my heart, but come on it's not as if we are his boyhood club is it.

NDombele had 1 season playing in Lige1 (not sure if that's the right name), for Lyon. they had just purchased him for 8m euros why would anyone pay near on 50m, for a player that looks great in a league that makes Sky bet League 1 look good. yes he has looked good this season playing in the CL, but that would of been 1 massive gamble if he failed to settle in England.

you also got to remember when the window was open we had 28 men to fit into a 25 man squad, that also needed a HG player or 2, but we never sold anyone, not even the better players that were on the out list.

you all moan at Levy for not paying top whack, but you expect him to give our players away for nothing, and with the PL paying better wages than the majority of clubs across the whole of Europe, then most of those on the out list most probably turned moves down due to wages.

there is the chance also that Levy knew before it was announced about the stadium, and had no idea what laid ahead in costs, so never went that extra mile, and I doubt even Poch would expect to over pay for a player, especially if that player wanted silly wages that would of meant a lot of unhappy squad members not receiving the same.

Man I love your enthusiasm and goodwill but there are so so many holes in almost of all what you have written here.

 

[Lighty64]

I don’t think you realise the extent of Wanyama’s injury. He has made 4 appearances this year - he has been available for sale since the summer due to the severity and permanence of the injury. He needs replacing - you surely can’t be making the argument that there’s no point in signing a replacement because they might get injured too?!?!,

Janssen is one of the worst players ever to pull on a Spurs shirt.

Llorente is passed it.

To claim they are all good players and that the issue is the way Spurs play is beyond deluded - you must either be a moron or a troll, I’m going with the latter.

but he wasn't sold, and doubt anyone would of offered anything for him

you obviously haven't been watching Spurs for as long as me, or if we are going to get into insults, you are just THICK. Janssen was part of a squad that helped us finish 2nd, our best ever PL finish. he never played enough to even find form, had personal issues and struggled to settle in England.

Llorente, the player that helped us get a result in the Bernabeu and the Nou Camp, and has had very little playing time. no matter what job you do in life, if you aren't doing it on a regular basis you won't preform to your best.

they are all internationals which makes them good, and because we put more crosses in than normal and he failed on the 2 chances he had doesn't mean he is a bad player. I've seen many more players miss a lot easier chances in my 46 years

 

[Lighty64]

Man I love your enthusiasm and goodwill but there are so so many holes in almost of all what you have written here.

please fill them in with fact, not opinion please

 

[Khilari]

but he wasn't sold, and doubt anyone would of offered anything for him

you obviously haven't been watching Spurs for as long as me, or if we are going to get into insults, you are just THICK. Janssen was part of a squad that helped us finish 2nd, our best ever PL finish. he never played enough to even find form, had personal issues and struggled to settle in England.

Llorente, the player that helped us get a result in the Bernabeu and the Nou Camp, and has had very little playing time. no matter what job you do in life, if you aren't doing it on a regular basis you won't preform to your best.

they are all internationals which makes them good, and because we put more crosses in than normal and he failed on the 2 chances he had doesn't mean he is a bad player. I've seen many more players miss a lot easier chances in my 46 years

I want Llorente to do well - but aside from the odd assist, he really isn't cut out any longer to play at our level. His first touch, his play in and around the box, his hold up play and his running isn't great really. Does he add something different when he comes on with 10-15min to play and we are in need of a goal? Yes, sure. Has he notched up a couple of assists and goals? Sure.

Do either of those stats make him a top player? I don't think so.

By argument, GKN got an assist - but you only need to watch him play to see he is still out of his depth and really hasn't pushed on since we signed him (I think he has reached his limit).

 

[hakano]

please fill them in with fact, not opinion please

So it's ok for you to post your opinions but want facts from me? I like your style.

I will later tonight when I'm home from work.

 

[Lighty64]

I want Llorente to do well - but aside from the odd assist, he really isn't cut out any longer to play at our level. His first touch, his play in and around the box, his hold up play and his running isn't great really. Does he add something different when he comes on with 10-15min to play and we are in need of a goal? Yes, sure. Has he notched up a couple of assists and goals? Sure.

Do either of those stats make him a top player? I don't think so.

By argument, GKN got an assist - but you only need to watch him play to see he is still out of his depth and really hasn't pushed on since we signed him (I think he has reached his limit).

with GKN he has only featured 4 or 5 times since he has been here other than preseason, and to be honest he looked good in America preseason

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

please fill them in with fact, not opinion please

Your regurgitated opinion is fact or did I miss something? (I don't play FM by the way so you'll need to come up with a different amusing quip if you want to include me when you and your BSoDL sheep continue to play the man and not the ball)

 

[Lighty64]

So it's ok for you to post your opinions but want facts from me? I like your style.

I will later tonight when I'm home from work.

well explain to me what isn't fact in the 1st you quoted and were the holes are

the 2nd one the only hole might be the that not every corporate membership are getting money back, though if a company doesn't want to go to a match at Wembley, I can't see how the club can hold back their money

 

[Lighty64]

Your regurgitated opinion is fact or did I miss something? (I don't play FM by the way so you'll need to come up with a different amusing quip if you want to include me when you and your BSoDL sheep continue to play the man and not the ball)

you do know that there is a rule called FFP?

you have posted on all your digs we try to sell high, but come back with no proof

you have posted on all your digs we try to buy low, but come back with no proof

you don't understand that we have to sell to buy because to meet FFP we can't buy at silly prices, pay silly wages, and also pay 4 or 5 players for sitting at home doing nothing.

we failed to sell players not just because of the prices we put on their heads, but also because they either didn't want to go, or they didn't want the drop in wages.

your to desperate for a trophy, and to do that we have to compete with teams way, way above us in the financial league. if you can't see the hurdles then you can't be helped

 

[SpursDave88]

but he wasn't sold, and doubt anyone would of offered anything for him

you obviously haven't been watching Spurs for as long as me, or if we are going to get into insults, you are just THICK. Janssen was part of a squad that helped us finish 2nd, our best ever PL finish. he never played enough to even find form, had personal issues and struggled to settle in England.

Llorente, the player that helped us get a result in the Bernabeu and the Nou Camp, and has had very little playing time. no matter what job you do in life, if you aren't doing it on a regular basis you won't preform to your best.

they are all internationals which makes them good, and because we put more crosses in than normal and he failed on the 2 chances he had doesn't mean he is a bad player. I've seen many more players miss a lot easier chances in my 46 years

Dude - I think you are being extremely generous to Janssen to say that he contributed to is finishing second. Ultimately had we had a better player as our other centre forward I suspect we may have won the league.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

you do know that there is a rule called FFP?

you have posted on all your digs we try to sell high, but come back with no proof

you have posted on all your digs we try to buy low, but come back with no proof

you don't understand that we have to sell to buy because to meet FFP we can't buy at silly prices, pay silly wages, and also pay 4 or 5 players for sitting at home doing nothing.

we failed to sell players not just because of the prices we put on their heads, but also because they either didn't want to go, or they didn't want the drop in wages.

your to desperate for a trophy, and to do that we have to compete with teams way, way above us in the financial league. if you can't see the hurdles then you can't be helped

My 'proof' as I have explained to you on multiple occasions and I will do one last time, we are straddled with squad members Poch clearly doesn't rate, Janssen (before you say he was injured we should have sold him a couple of years ago when clear not in his plans) N'Koudou & LLorente, only conclusion Levy couldn't get what he wanted (to explain for those that find things a little difficult, there is ALWAYS a buyer at the right price, you can't sell your house for 100k because it's worth 90k? lower it to 80k and you have a sale...) Wanyama & Demebele... we've had multiple windows to fix this issue, both crocked and long needing replaced. As far as proof of buying low, you got me here... as we haven't bought anyone, actually just a thought though, maybe too expensive? (Just to clarify this in my opinion, nobody here has facts believe it or not yourself included, even those that claim to have facts all manner of bias could be attached...) Ok sheep, I'm back off to FM.

 

[Lighty64]

My 'proof' as I have explained to you on multiple occasions and I will do one last time, we are straddled with squad members Poch clearly doesn't rate, Janssen (before you say he was injured we should have sold him a couple of years ago when clear not in his plans) N'Koudou & LLorente, only conclusion Levy couldn't get what he wanted (to explain for those that find things a little difficult, there is ALWAYS a buyer at the right price, you can't sell your house for 100k because it's worth 90k? lower it to 80k and you have a sale...) Wanyama & Demebele... we've had multiple windows to fix this issue, both crocked and long needing replaced. (Just to clarify this in my opinion, nobody here has facts believe it or not yourself included, even those that claim to have facts all manner of bias could be attached...) Ok sheep, I'm back off to FM.

as you say it's your opinion, just like all of us. the only difference being is you blame Levy, yet you don't know it's because of Levy

we only signed Llorente last season, and if Kane wasn't injured he would of most probably been sold this window

we only found out in the summer about how bad Wanyama's injury was. yes we knew he suffered last season, but he still managed to play a few or did you forget the important goal in front of the Kop end?

totally agree we should of sold GKN after his 1st season, but after his appearances in his 1st season, did we even have an offer. we sent him out on loan, he didn't do enough to warrant being bought at the end.

we have known for seasons that Dembele struggles, but I can't even remember a team coming in for him, except rumours in the summer from Italy. none of us know why he never left, but being at the WC even though he might of only appeared once, it was obviously a hurdle.

but in your eyes the only hurdle is Levy

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

as you say it's your opinion, just like all of us. the only difference being is you blame Levy, yet you don't know it's because of Levy

we only signed Llorente last season, and if Kane wasn't injured he would of most probably been sold this window

we only found out in the summer about how bad Wanyama's injury was. yes we knew he suffered last season, but he still managed to play a few or did you forget the important goal in front of the Kop end?

totally agree we should of sold GKN after his 1st season, but after his appearances in his 1st season, did we even have an offer. we sent him out on loan, he didn't do enough to warrant being bought at the end.

we have known for seasons that Dembele struggles, but I can't even remember a team coming in for him, except rumours in the summer from Italy. none of us know why he never left, but being at the WC even though he might of only appeared once, it was obviously a hurdle.

but in your eyes the only hurdle is Levy

I wish there was a round in circles smiley... this will have to do always an excuse for the great Kim Jong-Levy, carry on sheep...

 

[dontcallme]

Lots of petty arguing going on in this thread. @a&c please consider my application to become a mod as cancelled.

Seems like a lot of hassle.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I call them silly wages because they are.

the more successful clubs do it because they have been successful for most of the time the PL and CL have been in place, or purchased by owners that have thrown stupid money at it (Chelsea & City) and have stadiums bigger than WHL was (oh I forgot we're not in a stadium are we).

so if a player asked for 180k a week, yet Alli is on 150k, but the player isn't as good or even a guarantee of even settling in England or playing in the PL week in, week out, you would risk causing bad vibes just so you could have a shiny new toy?

and out of everything I posted the only thing you could pick holes in was my "silly wages"

You're so fucking wrong, Lighty.

Just look at Arseanal, with their willingness to offer & pay upwards of £350k p/w for Ozil.

That deal got them the player they wanted, he's been an unquestionable success that has fitted in perfectly & got on well with everyone within the club. He hasn't been the slightest of problems since walking through the doors at their training ground AND it's not at all looking like they've ended up paying "Silly wages" to a guy who is seemingly now of no use and not wanted by anyone at the club.

See, offer & pay "Silly wages" and everything always works out.

 

[mattyspurs]

You're so fucking wrong, Lighty.

Just look at Arseanal, with their willingness to offer & pay upwards of £350k p/w for Ozil.

That deal got them the player they wanted, he's been an unquestionable success that has fitted in perfectly & got on well with everyone within the club. He hasn't been the slightest of problems since walking through the doors at their training ground AND it's not at all looking like they've ended up paying "Silly wages" to a guy who is seemingly now of no use and not wanted by anyone at the club.

See, offer & pay "Silly wages" and everything always works out.

Also see other example of Sanchez at Man Utd on circa of £500k per week. Fits exactly in the same category as Ozil

 

[Locotoro]

You're so fucking wrong, Lighty.

Just look at Arseanal, with their willingness to offer & pay upwards of £350k p/w for Ozil.

That deal got them the player they wanted, he's been an unquestionable success that has fitted in perfectly & got on well with everyone within the club. He hasn't been the slightest of problems since walking through the doors at their training ground AND it's not at all looking like they've ended up paying "Silly wages" to a guy who is seemingly now of no use and not wanted by anyone at the club.

See, offer & pay "Silly wages" and everything always works out.

you might have to put in a few emojis otherwise some people will think you're being serious

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

you might have to put in a few emojis otherwise some people will think you're being serious

Me taken seriously.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

With all these injuries affecting our potential goals, Poch needs to focus on finishing in training! Players like Lamela & Lucas need to step up & work on there finishing abilities which undoubtedly is decent, when presented with a chance

 

[Coco-1101]

you do know that there is a rule called FFP?

How will FFP is concern for us. We sign fucking no one and when we do we do it mostly in 10 to 25 mil range.