Mauricio Pochettino

[thecook]

Poch said in his press conference that he's going to be emotional again tonight

That's definitely going to help improve his relationship with the Chelsea fans.

He still doesn't know when to STFU.

Crying his fucking eyes out later I hope.

 

[RuskyM]

Poch said in his press conference that he's going to be emotional again tonight

That's definitely going to help improve his relationship with the Chelsea fans.

Must be fucking bizarre for Chelsea fans that the manager with the storied history of Chelsea vs Spurs is in the *home* dugout.

I really would like him to resign and go somewhere I can wish him well please.

 

[Guntz]

Must be fucking bizarre for Chelsea fans that the manager with the storied history of Chelsea vs Spurs is in the *home* dugout.

It's mental.

When Mourinho was our manager he never said anything of the sort.

 

[RuskyM]

It's mental.

When Mourinho was our manager he never said anything of the sort.

He'd already burned his bridges whilst at United though right?

Poch is just really not cut out for the super league clubs without lifting them there himself imo - he's too emotional, too dependent on convincing players to run through walls for him, which at PSG and Chelsea they just knew they didn't have to do. And as you say, a lot of being a top-tier manager is knowing what to say and what not to say, which is why Ancelotti's at Madrid and why Potter/Ten Hag/Poch kept putting their foot in it.

 

[Albertbarich]

He chats fart.

He knew what he was doing going there. He's a snake and I'm enjoying his misery. Emotional my arse.

 

[aliyid]

He chats fart.

He knew what he was doing going there. He's a snake and I'm enjoying his misery. Emotional my arse.

It's quite painful listening to some of his pre/post match interviews. Was his English always this bad or is he putting it on to avoid tricky questions.

Seem to remember his interviews being much clearer than they are at the moment

 

[brasil_spur]

@easley91 has put it much better than I could in his post above. Chelsea have had games where they’ve created chance after chance but missed them and have looked far more solid defensively than us. Poch has also shown he adapts his tactics to different games even if it’s just a slight tweak whereas Ange plays the same way no matter who we play which in my opinion is a sure fire way to ensure that you won’t win anything of note because better teams will pick you apart time and time again. The element of surprise is sometimes enough to win you a game.

Firstly Ange has won a bunch of stuff in his career using this approach, in fact he's won way more than Poch has.

Secondly Ange is trying to get a style of play into us as a team. I can see why he's continuing with this, because as soon as you start varying away from it the whole system comes crashing down a bit. We all knew this season would be ups and downs and yet we're currently in 5th and frankly we just played as well as Arsenal (arguably better) who are in the title race with City this season.

What we need is better players - actually I'll reword that, we need players that better fit Ange's system. Right now what we have is:

GK: Yes - but only one, Vicario.
RB: Yes - but only one, Porro.
CB: Yes - we now have 3, Romero, VDV and Dragusin, but two of them are new to the league this season.
LB: Yes - but only one, Udogie, and he's new to the league this season.
DM: No - Bissouma has shown he can be a rotation player but we need someone in here as first choice.
CM: Yes - Between Sarr and Bentancur, when both are fit, we have two good options here and hopefully the addition of Bergvall in the summer helps too.
AM: No - Maddison has had a horrid second half of the season and like Bissouma can be used as rotation, but we need someone else here who is more consistent.
RW: Yes - but only one (Johnson), we need someone else in a similar mould who can rotate with him.
LW: Yes - I think with Son and Werner we have enough here right now, but I would probably look at other options over Werner for signing in the summer.
ST: No - Richarlison is not the type of striker we need and right now we have no-one in rotation, jury very much out on Veliz.

We then have a number of players who really don't fit an Ange system very well: Forster, Emerson, Davies, Gil, Lo Celso, PEH, Sessegnon & Solomon.

If you then include the other loan players that's at least 12 players in the squad that we need to shift this summer. Big task.

In terms of incomings that means:
New GK - rotation | New RB - rotation | New LB - rotation | New DM - 1st Team | New AM - 1st Team | New RW - rotation | New LW - rotation (Son successor) | New ST - 1st Team

That's 8 incomings, with 4 of them being first teamers. I think you could get clever with someone like Eze covering both the AM and LW role for us, which would then mean the only other big signings are a ST and DM.

But that's probably £150m of gross spend this summer.

 

[rabbikeane]

But that's probably £150m of gross spend this summer.

Similar to what we've spent two years in a row now.
It's likely to happen again.

 

[brasil_spur]

Similar to what we've spent two years in a row now.
It's likely to happen again.

Yeh to be fair we're getting a lot better at A) spending money and B) shifting players on. Many of those we need to shift from that 12 are in the final years of their contracts so will be easier for us to let them go at knock down prices, because frankly anything we get for them is a plus over keeping them on our books another season and them losing them on a free.

We should have takers for: Reggie, Emerson, Lo Celso, Gil, PEH, Rodon, Skipp & Solomon. That's a conservative £75m there at knock down prices.

So getting in something like:

AM/LW - Eze - £50m
DM - Ederson - £30m
ST - Gimenez - £35m

That gives us probably another £35m - 50m to spend on full back rotation players and another wider forward player, which about right as that's around £15m per player - so potentially we pull the trigger on Werner as he's that price if we can't find a better option.

Assume we don't sort the rotation GK out this summer and assume we keep Davies as he transitions out of a playing role (as he's HG and CT).

 

[RuskyM]

@brasil_spur I know this isn't relevant to this thread, but why don't you think Richy's the right striker for Ange? Around Christmas time he seemed pretty much perfect in that Firmino-esque mode.

 

[brasil_spur]

@brasil_spur I know this isn't relevant to this thread, but why don't you think Richy's the right striker for Ange? Around Christmas time he seemed pretty much perfect in that Firmino-esque mode.

I'm probably being overly harsh on him, as like you say he went through a very good patch at one point this season, but we need someone more clinical up front, someone who thrives on getting on the end of a ball and burying it in the net. Richarlison is not this type of striker. I'm also likely being harsh because of his cost to us, between his wages and amortisation he's one of our highest single cost players when it comes to FFP and in the position he plays we need to see more from him for him to be worth this.

I'm torn on whether we sell him this summer (assuming a bid of over £30-40m comes in) or whether we keep him but bring in some proper competition. I'm probably leaning to the latter - bring in someone like Giminez or even David and make Richarlison work for that first team spot. He still offers us something and he's still a decent striker, just not in the mould Ange is using him for right now.

 

[aliyid]

I'm probably being overly harsh on him, as like you say he went through a very good patch at one point this season, but we need someone more clinical up front, someone who thrives on getting on the end of a ball and burying it in the net. Richarlison is not this type of striker.

I've not seen anything over the past two seasons to suggest he is capable of being a good option.

Hold up play is poor, linking play is poor, finishing is poor, aerial ability is ok (but he rarely gets into position for this to be a threat). He doesn't make runs off the ball to create space for other players, the only logical reason I can see for people wanting him to play is because Sonny is more effective coming in from the left than he is up front.

The worst part for me though is that Richy consistently appears more interested in winding up opposition defenders than he does being a threat to the goal. We scored our 2nd at the weekend and what does he do? Runs straight into Gabriel allowing them to run down another minute of the clock and killing our momentum

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

Disappointing evening, Pochs tactics outclassed our Ange.