Mayor Boris urges Spurs to boost riot-hit Tottenham by pressing on with new stadium

sloth

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Good points Sloth.

But I'm thinking, if you assume that the running track (which we apparently won't accept) will now be written in and that it would look like too much of a bribe if they withdraw the NDP offer then perhaps they have little to gain by offering us any more. Chances of us going outside Haringey other than the OS are slim right. And do nothing at all is not really an option in the long run. I know there was something about Enfield and the Lee Valley years ago but would we screen want to try to get permission when we had such a hard time trying to built on the shyte around WHL.

Anyway, really hope we do go through with the JR. Will be interesting to see if Levy can turn the takes yet again
I think the main reason they would want to stop the JR is that it would cause political embarrassment were they to lose it, us and West Ham would presumably be able to claim back the money we spent bidding against a false prospectus and were it to be re-done there's no guarantee there'd be competition in the re-run process (we'd not be involved), West Ham might not be able to afford it and they'd be back to square one, insisting on a running track but with an expensive stadium slowly sinking into disuse and dereliction.

Against that they've got West Ham and the current situation suits all official parties very well.

The question is what more can City Hall offer? Can they bring pressure on CABE and EH to drop their conditions? Will they promise to get TFL to do something about the Victoria Line extension? Will they allow us to build the number of apartments we originally wanted to? It seems to me that there is plenty they could do, if there was the political will to do it.
 

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The question is what more can City Hall offer? Can they bring pressure on CABE and EH to drop their conditions? Will they promise to get TFL to do something about the Victoria Line extension? Will they allow us to build the number of apartments we originally wanted to? It seems to me that there is plenty they could do, if there was the political will to do it.
CABE's objection to the original flats was that they were pokey broom-cupboards in which you'd struggle to swing a hamster, let alone a cat, and would probably end up being bought on the cheap by the buy-to-rent sector. Given the level of property prices in Tottenham, people aren't going to pay over the odds for shit.

Quite a few local people as well as EH are rather attached to those buildings. Restoration will cost peanuts in relative terms.

The Victoria Line extension is a dead duck. Forget it.
 

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There is a page (somewhere) on TFL's web site where they proudly announce £50 million of infrastructure improvements in co-ordination with what was, at that time, the goons' Cashburden Grove project.
Like I said, the Gooners received no direct public funding, though I do appreciate the distinction between direct public funding, indirect public funding and public sector support is not particularly important.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the Gooners contributed £10m to TfL for specific transport improvements that, once paid over, TfL decided was not value for money so spent it on something completely different.

Not sure what relevance this post has to anything (that's never stopped me posting before), though I guess it highlights that to directly compare one scheme with another is not always the most logical thing to do.
 

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Like I said, the Gooners received no direct public funding, though I do appreciate the distinction between direct public funding, indirect public funding and public sector support is not particularly important.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the Gooners contributed £10m to TfL for specific transport improvements that, once paid over, TfL decided was not value for money so spent it on something completely different.

Not sure what relevance this post has to anything (that's never stopped me posting before), though I guess it highlights that to directly compare one scheme with another is not always the most logical thing to do.
I guess we could do with TFL spending a similar amount on turning the Northumberland Park, Victoria Line depot into a proper station. We'd probably even contribute £10m to it if they'd do it...

We'd also like to be able to build all the apartments we wanted to and not have to pay for the preservation of CABE/EH's crappy historic buildings. there are probably a few things besides that which could help us.

None of which come under the auspice of giving us money direct, but which would significantly improve the viability of the project.
 
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