Miralem Pjanic

[Hoddle&Waddle]

This ain't going to happen. Why would he leave a club fighting for the title and pretty much a certainty to QF for the CL?

If it's a question of him being forced out then I'm sure there will be bigger clubs than us in for him

They're not realistically fighting for the title though, they just made a very good start. Anyone that watches Serie A knows they have little to no chance of winning it.

 

[E17yid]

Their not realistically fighting for the title though, they just made a very good start. Anyone that watches Serie A knows they have little to no chance of winning it.

My bad, I knew Juve were top but I thought there was only a point or 2 in it. Either way, they are doing very well this season

 

[Barry Mead]

But look at our midfield depth. Paulinho, Sandro, Dembele, Capoue, Eriksen, Holtby, Chadli, Townsend, Lennon, Lamela, sigurdsson and Bentaleb. Thats at the moment 11 players for four positions. And you just can't tell me you can't form a good midfield out of these players.

What we need is a long term Kaboul replacement, a competition for Rose and an Adebayor cover. That is were our money should be spent on.

The trouble with midfield players is that these days most players are specialist-defensive mids, ball winning central mids, deep lying playmakers, advaned playmakers, box to box mids, attacking mids-very few have a very complete repertoire. We have a lot of midfielders, but few that can be classed as playmakers. We should always look to give ourselves quality options and equally when the opportunity arises then it's a good time to cull a few that are not as strong as is needed. You only have to look at how well Arsenal are doing to see that having a decent midfield is not enough, when opportunity arose they added really top quality players like Cazorla and Ozil and sadly now they are looking far more like serious title challengers than simply CL qualifiers. I'd be more than happy to lose both Siggy and Holtby (both decent squad players) and replace with a player like Pjanic. There will always be times when there are other priorities but that shouldn't blind us when opportunity allows you to strengthen in another area

 

[Barry Mead]

Roma have brought in Leandro Paredes already on a loan-to-buy and are now finalising a deal for Nianggolan too, it does sound like perhaps they're preparing to lose or replace someone.

Yeah I get the impression the comment "not for sale at this time" might have been more a case of lets see if we can tie up a couple of targets first then see if we can make a bit of money by selling Pjanic

 

[markieboy]

I would say that this guy is not as good as Paul Scholes but a better player than Jack Wilshire...........why would we need a player like that?......................No fucking idea!

 

[dude573]

Currently I think this guy is better than Holtby and Siggy. Possibly on par with Eriksen in terms of 'playmaking.' I wonder if our treatment of Lamela will discourage him from wishing to come to us though.

Roma are in a very good position in their league, I just can't see him wanting to leave them at the moment. Maybe we should go in for him during the summer, but if not I am more then content with Holtby and Eriksen on our books, Siggy too if he okay with being a squad player.

 

[rawhide]

Currently I think this guy is better than Holtby and Siggy. Possibly on par with Eriksen in terms of 'playmaking.' I wonder if our treatment of Lamela will discourage him from wishing to come to us though.

Roma are in a very good position in their league, I just can't see him wanting to leave them at the moment. Maybe we should go in for him during the summer, but if not I am more then content with Holtby and Eriksen on our books, Siggy too if he okay with being a squad player.

Wouldn't the First bit suggest CL next season, so we'd want/need to offer similar?

 

[dude573]

Wouldn't the First bit suggest CL next season, so we'd want/need to offer similar?

I'm quietly confident we can get CL next season, and if we do and can afford him I reckon we should go in for him. I just think we'd have a better chance of signing him in the summer than we would now. Roma are in a better position than us in their domestic table, I just can't see him wanting to leave that.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Currently I think this guy is better than Holtby and Siggy. Possibly on par with Eriksen in terms of 'playmaking.' I wonder if our treatment of Lamela will discourage him from wishing to come to us though.

Roma are in a very good position in their league, I just can't see him wanting to leave them at the moment. Maybe we should go in for him during the summer, but if not I am more then content with Holtby and Eriksen on our books, Siggy too if he okay with being a squad player.

This kind of comment does my head in. Our treatment of Lamela??? Look, we all wanna see Lamela do well, but I wouldnt say he's been treated badly in any way. He's had opportunity's to grasp a place in the team with starts in Europe and plenty of sub appearances in the Prem. He'll come good, but no one should be guaranteed a start based on price tag.

 

[dude573]

This kind of comment does my head in. Our treatment of Lamela??? Look, we all wanna see Lamela do well, but I wouldnt say he's been treated badly in any way. He's had opportunity's to grasp a place in the team with starts in Europe and plenty of sub appearances in the Prem. He'll come good, but no one should be guaranteed a start based on price tag.

Please note I said treatment, not implying that to be of a bad quality. What I am saying is that lamela a former team mate of his has joined a club which has hardly used him. I am just under the impression that Pjanic will be knowledgeable of this and perhaps less inclined to join that exact same club which haven't utilised his former team mate.

I'm not bashing Spurs, nor am I Lamela, I just imagine Pjanic will be less inclined to join us after the situation regarding Lamela.

 

[rawhide]

I'm quietly confident we can get CL next season, and if we do and can afford him I reckon we should go in for him. I just think we'd have a better chance of signing him in the summer than we would now. Roma are in a better position than us in their domestic table, I just can't see him wanting to leave that.

But its not guaranteed. If we don't get it, we won't get him. If we get him in Jan (if available, yadda, yadda) then we are more likely to get CL.

 

[Syn_13]

Please note I said treatment, not implying that to be of a bad quality. What I am saying is that lamela a former team mate of his has joined a club which has hardly used him. I am just under the impression that Pjanic will be knowledgeable of this and perhaps less inclined to join that exact same club which haven't utilised his former team mate.

I'm not bashing Spurs, nor am I Lamela, I just imagine Pjanic will be less inclined to join us after the situation regarding Lamela.

I don't buy this line of thinking. Whether one player is successful at a club or not has no standing as to whether another from the same team/league will be. Pjanic may be a more adaptable person. He may already know English very well. His skills may already be far more suited to the Premier League. He may not feel as much pressure to do so well because of the potential fee involved, or because of his own assured status within his nation for internation football.

There's more to it than just "My mate isn't doing so well over there, so why should I want to go?". Also, it might be more of an encouragement depending on how well Erik and Miralem got on. If they were close then it could benefit both of them quite highly.

My only concern with this rumour is whether Pjanic can step up to this league. The only thing he will have in common with Lamela is that he would have played in a league where you get a lot more time on the ball and can spend more time with it before you're closed down. For a playmaker that can be a killer, so it just depends on how adaptable he is. Playing in France might have helped him though.

The funny thing is, Erik was a far more accomplished player when he left Roma than Pjanic is now, he was a huge thing in Italy, where he burst on to the scene and looked world class. Pjanic was a slow burner, he started off struggling with injuries and finding places in the squad. They're not going on about him like he is world class over there but they certainly do rate him as one of the league's stronger players.

 

[Wolf_Autopsy]

Roma have brought in Leandro Paredes already on a loan-to-buy and are now finalising a deal for Nianggolan too, it does sound like perhaps they're preparing to lose or replace someone.

Nainggolan is more of a replacement/backup for strootman, not pjanic

 

[fatpiranha]

I can't really see Roma letting him go before the World Cup. He'll have a starring role for Bosnia-Herzegovina who are more likely to reach the knockout stages than England are. I wanted us to sign him 2 years ago but i'm afraid we've missed our chance .

 

[Blake Griffin]

i've not seen loads of him but from the little i have he reminds me of jack wilshere. we'd have to lose at least a couple of midfielders though, we have an absolute army of them.

 

[The Scarecrow]

i've not seen loads of him but from the little i have he reminds me of jack wilshere. we'd have to lose at least a couple of midfielders though, we have an absolute army of them.

I'd easily sacrifice Holtby and Sigurdsson to get Pjanic in. But then again, it would just be another expensive player who would need time to settle. We're better off playing Lamela and Eriksen.

 

[DaSpurs]

As with Mata, for the price it's not worth the quality gulf between what we already have and at the cost of relegating what we already have to subdued time. Eriksen is sheer quality, a mere 21 years old, as well as currently adjusting rapidly and successfully to Prem play.

The only thing I'm slightly envious of with Pjanic is his personality seems to be a bit more conducive to a leadership role. Eriksen's young and at a new club in a new land, but he doesn't seem to be as outgoing and as demanding of his teammates. Would really like to see a player in attacking positions mold into that role, as it is extremely beneficial for own team grit while being more intimidating to defenders.

 

[Blake Griffin]

As with Mata, for the price it's not worth the quality gulf between what we already have and at the cost of relegating what we already have to subdued time. Eriksen is sheer quality, a mere 21 years old, as well as currently adjusting rapidly and successfully to Prem play.

The only thing I'm slightly envious of with Pjanic is his personality seems to be a bit more conducive to a leadership role. Eriksen's young and at a new club in a new land, but he doesn't seem to be as outgoing and as demanding of his teammates. Would really like to see a player in attacking positions mold into that role, as it is extremely beneficial for own team grit while being more intimidating to defenders.

why is it either/or? eriksen and pjanic could easily play in the same team.

 

[DaSpurs]

why is it either/or? eriksen and pjanic could easily play in the same team.

Ideally you're absolutely right. But not likely in Sherwood's current setup, which as of this moment he hasn't seemed likely to change. Had he been reasonable and gone with a three-man CM at the Emirates, then I'd certainly agree with you.

 

[Ribble]

Nainggolan is more of a replacement/backup for strootman, not pjanic

Ah yes, it's now emerged they're flogging Bradley to Toronto.