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Mourinho 'angry' with Alli for creating 'problems for his own team'

mawspurs

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Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho has hit out at Dele Alli, accusing the midfielder of creating “problems for his own team” in his side's 3-1 win over Stoke in the Carabao Cup.

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Serpico

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Poor decision making - poor passing are causing problems for the teams but its most players at the moment not just Alli. Teams have sussed they way we play so unless we change, every game will be disjointed and cause frustration unless we are so good we brush teams aside..
 

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This is disgusting from Jose and it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I thought he was justified in calling out Ndombele and Alli last season because both players were clearly falling short of what was required, but now it's the brazen form of bullying that he's been guilty of elsewhere and the reason I didn't want him at the club in the first place. Alli's been thrown into a tough game without much playing time and did OK. To throw him under the bus for giving the ball away (a ball which went to their keeper before they scored) tells me it's a premeditated attack. I've got on board with his tactics, as hard as they can be to watch, but this stuff flies in the face of the values of our club.
 

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I've read in various places that Alli was bright. For me it was classic Alli. Gave the ball away far too much. Frustrating to watch as he is obviously so talented. The way we play with so little of the ball, you can't have that.

Don't think mourinho has handle him particularly well.

Just a depressing situation all round on this one.
 

Serpico

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This is disgusting from Jose and it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I thought he was justified in calling out Ndombele and Alli last season because both players were clearly falling short of what was required, but now it's the brazen form of bullying that he's been guilty of elsewhere and the reason I didn't want him at the club in the first place. Alli's been thrown into a tough game without much playing time and did OK. To throw him under the bus for giving the ball away (a ball which went to their keeper before they scored) tells me it's a premeditated attack. I've got on board with his tactics, as hard as they can be to watch, but this stuff flies in the face of the values of our club.
I feel its harsh but eventually it may benefit Alli - he needs to grow up as a player. Whether this is the right approach or not, time will tell.
 

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Bullshit headlines as usual. Mourinho is quoted as being "upset" that Alli caused a situation that led directly to a goal that levelled a game against a weaker team in a knockout competition.

I think he needs to call Alli out when he makes errors like this, whether that leads to Alli leaving us or whether it leads to him improving, both things are probably acceptable, certainly in Jose's mind.
 

Freddie

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I feel its harsh but eventually it may benefit Alli - he needs to grow up as a player. Whether this is the right approach or not, time will tell.
He's already tried it once. If he hasn't responded then it's unlikely to work now. He could have said this behind closed doors. Also, this is Alli's game. He tries things and it doesn't always come off. It seems kind of foolish to play him in a role where you expose his weaknesses.
 

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Bullshit headlines as usual. Mourinho is quoted as being "upset" that Alli caused a situation that led directly to a goal that levelled a game against a weaker team in a knockout competition.

I think he needs to call Alli out when he makes errors like this, whether that leads to Alli leaving us or whether it leads to him improving, both things are probably acceptable, certainly in Jose's mind.
That would be fine if he treated everyone who made a costly error the same way. Someone seems to make one every other game. He's targeting Alli to make him a scapegoat, and he has track record of it.
 

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He's already tried it once. If he hasn't responded then it's unlikely to work now. He could have said this behind closed doors. Also, this is Alli's game. He tries things and it doesn't always come off. It seems kind of foolish to play him in a role where you expose his weaknesses.
He can't really win then can he then. Surely a league cup game against a lower division team is the exact type of game Mourinho should be playing him in, I would imagine Mourinho has been clear with him about not exposing his play. Ultimately it seems like Alli is never going to be a Mourinho player though.
 

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He can't really win then can he then. Surely a league cup game against a lower division team is the exact type of game Mourinho should be playing him in, I would imagine Mourinho has been clear with him about not exposing his play. Ultimately it seems like Alli is never going to be a Mourinho player though.
Stoke probably have one of the the more resolute defences in the country. They're incredibly hard to play against. I wouldn't expect any attacker to really excel against them without much football behind them. He was definitely a bit sloppy but we've seen that when he's playing well his qualities can make up for that. One could see it as a flaw in the manager that he can't get the best out of these players but I also get that Jose prefers a greater degree of control over the game than Alli gives you. But my issue is more with the blame publicly placed on one person. We're more considerate these days of the effect this can have on people and I think Mourinho has crossed a line.
 

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Stoke probably have one of the the more resolute defences in the country. They're incredibly hard to play against. I wouldn't expect any attacker to really excel against them without much football behind them. He was definitely a bit sloppy but we've seen that when he's playing well his qualities can make up for that. One could see it as a flaw in the manager that he can't get the best out of these players but I also get that Jose prefers a greater degree of control over the game than Alli gives you. But my issue is more with the blame publicly placed on one person. We're more considerate these days of the effect this can have on people and I think Mourinho has crossed a line.

If they one of the more resolute defences then it's unlikely they also have one of the more creative attacks, which should make cutting out basic errors leading to attacks that much easier.

If Mourinho was angry at and had blasted Alli then yes he's crossed the line. But he hasn't - he has criticised him for making a significant mistake in a game where he shouldn't have done.
 

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He's already tried it once. If he hasn't responded then it's unlikely to work now. He could have said this behind closed doors. Also, this is Alli's game. He tries things and it doesn't always come off. It seems kind of foolish to play him in a role where you expose his weaknesses.
Jose was upset that Alli is not performing how he wishes and expressed it-I can't see the problem with it. Pre Jose Alli was being questioned about his ability/performances and attitude. Alli needs to grow up as a player and in part responding to criticism however its delivered.
 

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I would also like to say, Jose comments are lost a little in translation. The bluntness is a direct translation of his own language translated into English This is not an excuse or criticism just the way it is. Yes he was questioning Alli but more so the number 10 role which Alli plays.
 

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Jose is being harder on Ali over this 'mistake' than he was over Aurier's against Leicester, and that was worse IMO, (and definetely cost us a goal).
 

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Jose's pretty much said why he doesn't rate Dele & its because of something a lot of Spurs supporters have had ago at him for before which are his flicks & attempts to be cute on the ball which often gives it away. Last night he did it & it ended up with them scoring a goal, although there was a bit of football in between still Jose thinks if he kept the ball better that goal wouldn't have happened.

The message to Dele is keep the ball better & maybe I'll keep you on.
 

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Jose is being harder on Ali over this 'mistake' than he was over Aurier's against Leicester, and that was worse IMO, (and definetely cost us a goal).

Just wonder what he would have said had Fletcher scored with his header at the end of the match. Kane completely missed him.
 

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Jose is being harder on Ali over this 'mistake' than he was over Aurier's against Leicester, and that was worse IMO, (and definetely cost us a goal).
Aurier has money in the bank at the moment, Dele doesn't. If Dele had been ripping it up, maybe scored a good goal in the match then Jose wouldn't be critical
 

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This is disgusting from Jose and it leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I thought he was justified in calling out Ndombele and Alli last season because both players were clearly falling short of what was required, but now it's the brazen form of bullying that he's been guilty of elsewhere and the reason I didn't want him at the club in the first place. Alli's been thrown into a tough game without much playing time and did OK. To throw him under the bus for giving the ball away (a ball which went to their keeper before they scored) tells me it's a premeditated attack. I've got on board with his tactics, as hard as they can be to watch, but this stuff flies in the face of the values of our club.
Completely disagree.

When Jose joined the club he was supportive of all the players. Over time he has been able to see who are the talented players that are not showing their ability on the pitch and which ones are the ones that don't give 100% for the team or play the way to maximise the teams output.

First was Ndombele. Clearly a highly talented player with the ability to really dictate the play and be the springboard for our attacks. So Jose demanded more from him publicly and privately. Is it a nice approach? No its not. But winning is not about being nice, it's about winning and that is what Jose has been brought in to do. After a season of the Jose way, the result is Ndombele is playing at a much higher level and he's able to maintain that ability for longer on the pitch.

If you compare what he did to what he is doing with Dele, there is no difference. Dele is a very talented player but he is not playing as a part of the team, his style is more individual and this is what Mourinho is trying to drum out of him. Win the ball, move the ball forward, release the ball, get in the box, score the goal - these are all things dele can do really well but he's not doing them and when he does it is at Dele pace, not Spurs pace. The result is the team set up to counter quickly is suffering.

Jose is only asking Dele to perform at a level he is capable of. Dele will either continue to play below his level and be sold or start to absorb the information and approach that has been asked of him and become a big part of this team.

If a player doesn't play the way the manager asks they will never be a successful part of that team regardless of who they are.
 

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In the Amazon documentary Jose seemed to appreciate just how talented Deli is, with what he quoted Fergie saying about him. I think and hope he still believes in him and is just trying to improve his attitude. But I must say I’m a bit nervous with the PSG manager being sacked and talk of Poch replacing him that Deli will be on his way in January.
 
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