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Mourinho reveals Doherty chat about struggles and admits possible Dele distraction

ralvy

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You can blame it on snowflake culture but the art of good man-management is to know which players need the stick and which need the carrot, and that's always been the case. Fergie apparently never said anything to Cantona or Scholes. Jose seems a bit one-dimensional in that sense. Although with Alli I don't think either approach seem to work.

It originally seemed to work with Dele, as his performances were much better upon Mourinho's arrival. Too bad that couldn't last.
 

Freddie

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Honestly if I was as pissed off at what I was seeing as some of you lot make out you are, I just wouldn't watch.
That's like not going to see your parents because they're ill. I'm astonished that you're content watching us play impotent football.
 

Trix

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That's like not going to see your parents because they're ill. I'm astonished that you're content watching us play impotent football.
It's not that I like it I just understand it is what it is at the moment. The only 2 games I've been genuinely annoyed about are Chelsea and Brighton and I made my feelings known about that. As for the other games some have not been great to watch, but I understand why. There have also been some good games as well which some don't seem to be able to acknowledge.

I also think your analogy is way off the mark as well, but that's not really important.
 

Freddie

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It's not that I like it I just understand it is what it is at the moment. The only 2 games I've been genuinely annoyed about are Chelsea and Brighton and I made my feelings known about that. As for the other games some have not been great to watch, but I understand why. There have also been some good games as well which some don't seem to be able to acknowledge.

I also think your analogy is way off the mark as well, but that's not really important.
Fair enough. We could be 9th in the league if Villa win their game in hand, and it's usually not great to watch. You're right, there have been some bright spots, but in general I don't see us having a defined plan of attack and without that I wonder where it's leading. I can just about tolerate the extremely defensive approach in big games because it's evident what we're doing and it often works, but against other teams our tactics and style seem so scatter-gun (maybe why they don't get as much credit when it works), and on the whole we've been quite lucky with injuries too.
 

Trix

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Fair enough. We could be 9th in the league if Villa win their game in hand, and it's usually not great to watch. You're right, there have been some bright spots, but in general I don't see us having a defined plan of attack and without that I wonder where it's leading. I can just about tolerate the extremely defensive approach in big games because it's evident what we're doing and it often works, but against other teams our tactics and style seem so scatter-gun (maybe why they don't get as much credit when it works), and on the whole we've been quite lucky with injuries too.
That's fair enough, but as I've said I think he's trying to get the balance between attack and defence. Just how much can we push forward without being far too exposed. I honestly think a top draw CB would allow us to play far more open with the confidence that we won't concede every time someone runs at our back line.

Jose used the word 'compromise' over and over in his press conference after WBA, and I think this is what he meant. The compromise between attack and defence. The players need to know what that is and how much they can push up without looking back to see our straight from you've been framed defensive line falling all over each other.
 

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Jose used the word 'compromise' over and over in his press conference after WBA, and I think this is what he meant. The compromise between attack and defence. The players need to know what that is and how much they can push up without looking back to see our straight from you've been framed defensive line falling all over each other.
How he uses this word "compromise" in English might be closely aligned with how the equivalent Portuguese word has many uses (possible Portuguese meanings in this context being effort, engagement, battling, etc), and is not as narrowly defined as in English. Mourinho, obviously, has really good command of English, but occasionally it shines through that he is using English in a way that comes natural to him as a Portuguese, but that may not sound exactly right to an English speaker. I fully agree with you that a logical way to understand him is exactly how you described, but it might be that Mourinho meant to use "compromise" in a different sense.
 

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How he uses this word "compromise" in English might be closely aligned with how the equivalent Portuguese word has many uses (possible Portuguese meanings in this context being effort, engagement, battling, etc), and is not as narrowly defined as in English. Mourinho, obviously, has really good command of English, but occasionally it shines through that he is using English in a way that comes natural to him as a Portuguese, but that may not sound exactly right to an English speaker. I fully agree with you that a logical way to understand him is exactly how you described, but it might be that Mourinho meant to use "compromise" in a different sense.
Susie Dent said exactly the same on Countdown last week?
 
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