Moussa Dembélé

[Ossie85]

That would mean Dembele would just be stuck on the bench! He looks good enough and ready to play cup games and come on as sub in league games thus giving Kane the rest he needs to stay sharp for the rest of the season.

No, you could loan him back to Fulham for the rest of the season like we did with Alli

 

[Donki]

Not with Levy. The only player where we lost a lot is Bentley

I don't care about Poch thinks. This is a message board, and I'm giving my opinion. I trust him, but that doesn't mean I won't say what I think it's best. You can't just accept everything he does as if he was unable to get it wrong.

The difference here is ambition. You are happy with accepting things and getting a 4th spot. I want the title.

We all want the title, I am accepting of the progress we have made on the field, off the field and as a club on a whole. I think personally that the league will get tighter and tighter over the next few years with the mid table teams all benefiting from the MASSIVE TV money. How many times over the last number of seasons have people said "oh this is the only time we have a chance at top 4, or the "only chance at the title". We have a very young squad and believe we have a very bright future, buying a big name striker is absolutely no guarantee of being a success we should know that by now. As long as Poch is happy I am happy.

 

[Hot Spur]

Surely strikers need to be selfish. Kane selfish, not Defoe selfish..

What a load of bollox, you play for the team not self glory. It doesn`t matter who actually scores as long as the team does. If passing creates a better scoring chance, that how it should be done.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Not with Levy. The only player where we lost a lot is Bentley

I don't care about Poch thinks. This is a message board, and I'm giving my opinion. I trust him, but that doesn't mean I won't say what I think it's best. You can't just accept everything he does as if he was unable to get it wrong.

The difference here is ambition. You are happy with accepting things and getting a 4th spot. I want the title.

That's not the difference though. The difference is you think spending large amounts of money guarantees success. I disagree that the route to title success is spending big on one player.

 

[Ossie85]

That's not the difference though. The difference is you think spending large amounts of money guarantees success. I disagree that the route to title success is spending big on one player.

No, that's not what I think. Nothing guarantees success. But I certainly think that with an expensive established player we are closer than with a kid with no more than a season of professional football.

I think I've said this several times now, and I keep getting the same answers.

If you deny that signing big players give us a higher chance of winning, than singing kids from lower leagues, you lot have been brainwashed. Alli is the exception, not the rule. As with everything with life, it's all about equilibrium. We struck gold with a kid, so now every signing should be a kid. We got burned with a few big signing, so now big signings are bad. It should be a mix of both

 

[ilikeost]

No, that's not what I think. Nothing guarantees success. But I certainly think that with an expensive established player we are closer than with a kid with no more than a season of professional football.

I think I've said this several times now, and I keep getting the same answers.

If you deny that signing big players give us a higher chance of winning, than singing kids from lower leagues, you lot have been brainwashed. Alli is the exception, not the rule. As with everything with life, it's all about equilibrium. We struck gold with a kid, so now every signing should be a kid. We got burned with a few big signing, so now big signings are bad. It should be a mix of both

Who would you like us to sign?

 

[Ossie85]

Who would you like us to sign?

Batshuayi and Boufal, but that's unlikely

I would def prefer us to sign Berahino and have him to cover (and challenge) Kane, than little Dembele.
We can also sign Dembele and loan him back like we did with Alli.

Berahino can challenge Kane for the spot, and maybe make him improve. Dembele won't

I think Dembele is a good signing though. But more for the future

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

No, that's not what I think. Nothing guarantees success. But I certainly think that with an expensive established player we are closer than with a kid with no more than a season of professional football.

I think I've said this several times now, and I keep getting the same answers.

If you deny that signing big players give us a higher chance of winning, than singing kids from lower leagues, you lot have been brainwashed. Alli is the exception, not the rule. As with everything with life, it's all about equilibrium. We struck gold with a kid, so now every signing should be a kid. We got burned with a few big signing, so now big signings are bad. It should be a mix of both

This conversation started because you said you would rather spend 30m on Martinez to back up Kane than sign Dembélé. Many of us disagree with this opinion. Don't be patronising with your 'brainwashed' bullshit. Yes there is a place for us to spend big every now and then, and it should be a balance. But right now we don't need to spend 30m on a 29 year old backup striker - that would just be stupid of us, and if we have that money to spend it should be on someone with room to grow, not on a 29 year old. Spending big on a Kane backup is certainly not going to win us the league.

 

[Ossie85]

This conversation started because you said you would rather spend 30m on Martinez to back up Kane than sign Dembélé. Many of us disagree with this opinion. Don't be patronising with your 'brainwashed' bullshit. Yes there is a place for us to spend big every now and then, and it should be a balance. But right now we don't need to spend 30m on a 29 year old backup striker - that would just be stupid of us, and if we have that money to spend it should be on someone with room to grow, not on a 29 year old. Spending big on a Kane backup is certainly not going to win us the league.

I don't know if it will win us the league, but we'll certainly have more chances with it than with Dembele
Besides, it's not back up. I don't want backup. I want someone to challenge him, someone who will make him fight for the spot. Dembele won't do that.
The discussion didn't start there. You just got into it without knowing where it started. Martinez was an example. If you want someone with room to grow, you have Berahino. We have more chances with Berahino than with Dembele

 

[millsey]

I've seen Dembele many times for Fulham. He is not ready to come on now and start scoring goals for us. Berahino would be.

 

[Dinbych]

I've seen Dembele many times for Fulham. He is not ready to come on now and start scoring goals for us. Berahino would be.

Berahino has 3 goals to his name and cannot get into an average West Brom side so I don't see how that makes him ready to start scoring goals for us. And I find the notion of spending £20 million plus on a reserve striker absolutely absurd.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

I don't know if it will win us the league, but we'll certainly have more chances with it than with Dembele
Besides, it's not back up. I don't want backup. I want someone to challenge him, someone who will make him fight for the spot. Dembele won't do that.
The discussion didn't start there. You just got into it without knowing where it started. Martinez was an example. If you want someone with room to grow, you have Berahino. We have more chances with Berahino than with Dembele

Whatever way you want to phrase it, it amounts to the same. Whatever striker we buy, they're coming in to play on the bench. Kane is one of the best strikers in the world for Christ's sake. Any starts they get will come if Kane is rested, or on the wing. Any striker we sign simply must be one who works hard, could play a passable role on the wing and is more than just a pure finisher. There is absolutely zero point in spending big money on someone just cause they've scored goals elsewhere. We need to be smarter than that. If we spend that money on a player, for Christ's sake let's make it an improvement to our XI.

 

[millsey]

Berahino has 3 goals to his name and cannot get into an average West Brom side so I don't see how that makes him ready to start scoring goals for us. And I find the notion of spending £20 million plus on a reserve striker absolutely absurd.

The reason Poch wants Berahino is he can play more than one position. This season you can't compare as he hasn't played. If he starts scoring for us Poch will find a way to play him and Kane, so he won't be a 20 mill reserve

 

[Dinbych]

The reason Poch wants Berahino is he can play more than one position. This season you can't compare as he hasn't played. If he starts scoring for us Poch will find a way to play him and Kane, so he won't be a 20 mill reserve

Firstly I don't think Poch even wants Berhaino anymore and secondly Berhainho cannot play more than one position, there seems to be this belief that he can play the wing forward role when he cannot. The only way we could accommodate both him and Kane is by dropping Harry into the number 10 role which would be madness. We would be sacrificing one of the leagues best forwards to acoomdate one of the most overrated who also has a terrible attitude. And you can't just dismiss this season out of hand, he has 3 goals to his name, he cannot get into the West Brom side, those are facts that cannot be ignored.

 

[millsey]

Firstly I don't think Poch even wants Berhaino anymore and secondly Berhainho cannot play more than one position, there seems to be this belief that he can play the wing forward role when he cannot. The only way we could accommodate both him and Kane is by dropping Harry into the number 10 role which would be madness. We would be sacrificing one of the leagues best forwards to acoomdate one of the most overrated who also has a terrible attitude. And you can't just dismiss this season out of hand, he has 3 goals to his name, he cannot get into the West Brom side, those are facts that cannot be ignored.

Bollocks. Poch can change the system or he can easily play Berahino ether side of Kane. And if he's banging in goals then Kane would be a terrific no 10. Costa
Has scored about 3 goals this year, doesn't mean he's crap. Just there are other things going on. We know the reasons Berahino isn't on the team and its not his talent. Get over this bad attitude thing. If Bale wasn't allowed to go to real when promises he would probably have sulked too and fallen out with people, like most footballers do

 

[Ledleys Knee]

Playing Kane at #10 is like moving Lloris to left back to accommodate Vorm. Madness

 

[millsey]

Playing Kane at #10 is like moving Lloris to left back to accommodate Vorm. Madness

Mental

 

[jasswolf]

Playing Kane at #10 is like moving Lloris to left back to accommodate Vorm. Madness

Not quite that level of madness, but the team would be better with Berahino in the #10 role and Kane up front rather than the reverse.

 

[Ledleys Knee]

Not quite that level of madness, but the team would be better with Berahino in the #10 role and Kane up front rather than the reverse.

Or Kane #9 and Berahino LWF, like when they played together for the U21s

 

[danielneeds]

Berahino has 3 goals to his name and cannot get into an average West Brom side so I don't see how that makes him ready to start scoring goals for us. And I find the notion of spending £20 million plus on a reserve striker absolutely absurd.

Woah, you're not basing your opinion of Berahino on this season's stats and performances are you?? He has scored very consistently for a very poor West Brom side before this season's mess of his and Peace's making.