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Trix

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According to accounts of people who have seen him play more than once, his workrate was impressive prior to recent transfer speculation.

And his agent will without doubt have an influence on that. An injured player is generally not moving anywhere.
 

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Remy, Bony and Walcott beat our no back up at all quite considerably though. Don't think anyone's mentioned we want a superstar, I've seen the like of Shane Long quite welcomed on here. Just not a 19 yr old raw kid from Fulham to be the only back up

You must have not been around in the summer when we signed Son (23), who is already better than fucking Shane Long, as is Chadli (26). Neither of whom are 19yo raw kids.

And all those players are more experienced than Dembele and more equipped to be able to make an impact this season.

Not every young player is like Alli and will just storm the league. Besides, it's a lot easier to settle in Alli's role, whereas there's no hiding place up front on your own.

I didn't expect a superstar signing, but would have liked a more experienced player on loan for the rest of the season until we can reassess in the summer.

We seem to worry too much about players getting upset. All it takes is for a Kane injury and that "back up" is suddenly needed, and unlike a poor Monaco side or a Leicester b team who couldn't be arsed, we could be facing key games with a complete rookie up front or someone who is being taken out of their best position to be shoe horned into another less effective position.


See my answer above. Who are we going to get who is better than Son or Chadli as back strikers. Both of them offer more than most strikers available to us now and Dembele2 who we are adding to Njie also as young developers.
 

cliff jones

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You must have not been around in the summer when we signed Son (23), who is already better than fucking Shane Long, as is Chadli (26). Neither of whom are 19yo raw kids.




See my answer above. Who are we going to get who is better than Son or Chadli as back strikers. Both of them offer more than most strikers available to us now and Dembele2 who we are adding to Njie also as young developers.

Yeah you're right. The glass full or half fullers sayeth twelfth richest club in Europe, in a great metropolis, what about the training ground, stadium on way, great young manager, how the heck could we find a striker as good as a couple of wide forwards already on our books. Impossible eh.


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dagraham

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See my answer above. Who are we going to get who is better than Son or Chadli as back strikers. Both of them offer more than most strikers available to us now and Dembele2 who we are adding to Njie also as young developers.

I suppose it all depends on whether you consider Chadli and Son as strikers. You and others think so, I and others think not. Fair enough.

Have to admit though that I completely forgot about N'jie (although he doesn't strike me as a genuine CF either).

I will at least say that Dembele seems the right type of forward player. I just worry that it still doesn't solve the problem this season. Even if Kane stays fit I think he's slowly going to burn out when he has to contend with EL and cup games too. To let something as predictable as that ruin everything we've done this season just seems foolish, but we've been here before and I'll just have to hope they know what they're doing and that Kane is indeed Superman.
 

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I suppose it all depends on whether you consider Chadli and Son as strikers. You and others think so, I and others think not. Fair enough.

Have to admit though that I completely forgot about N'jie (although he doesn't strike me as a genuine CF either).

I will at least say that Dembele seems the right type of forward player. I just worry that it still doesn't solve the problem this season. Even if Kane stays fit I think he's slowly going to burn out when he has to contend with EL and cup games too. To let something as predictable as that ruin everything we've done this season just seems foolish, but we've been here before and I'll just have to hope they know what they're doing and that Kane is indeed Superman.


They are wide forwards but both can and have played as forwards and both bring most of the qualities a forward needs in our system. They both show for the ball, hold it up, both can score goals and make goals, both can run at defenders better than Kane does, Son works as hard off the ball, Chadli needs to work harder. And if we want a "different" option we also have NJie who's played as a striker too.

Who else do we need. Who do you think we could sign that would do a better than those two (3 in Njie) or offer us more, be a dedicated striker, that would be prepared to come here and sit on our bench ?
 

millsey

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You must have not been around in the summer when we signed Son (23), who is already better than fucking Shane Long, as is Chadli (26). Neither of whom are 19yo raw kids.




See my answer above. Who are we going to get who is better than Son or Chadli as back strikers. Both of them offer more than most strikers available to us now and Dembele2 who we are adding to Njie also as young developers.
Ha ha ha ha. Funny how no manager has EVER played Chadli as a striker. And if Son is back up striker you have to move him from his current position on the team, replace him and have no striker on the bench! Jesus
 

ilikeost

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Ha ha ha ha. Funny how no manager has EVER played Chadli as a striker. And if Son is back up striker you have to move him from his current position on the team, replace him and have no striker on the bench! Jesus
You must have missed the games when he played as a striker for us then...
 

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Ha ha ha ha. Funny how no manager has EVER played Chadli as a striker. And if Son is back up striker you have to move him from his current position on the team, replace him and have no striker on the bench! Jesus

Pochettino has already used Chadli as a striker and in Holland he played as a wide striker (scoring 19 goals in the season before we signed him). Son played instead of Lamela, who could easily play in his place as an AM, as could Pritchard and Oduwa. And we'd still have Chadli, Njie and Harrison to stick on the bench as back up back up striker.
 

millsey

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Pochettino has already used Chadli as a striker and in Holland he played as a wide striker (scoring 19 goals in the season before we signed him). Son played instead of Lamela, who could easily play in his place as an AM, as could Pritchard and Oduwa. And we'd still have Chadli, Njie and Harrison to stick on the bench as back up back up striker.
He plays as a wide striker now, not a no 9. He's never played there in any kind of serious game for Poch
 

Supersi32

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Pochettino has already used Chadli as a striker and in Holland he played as a wide striker (scoring 19 goals in the season before we signed him). Son played instead of Lamela, who could easily play in his place as an AM, as could Pritchard and Oduwa. And we'd still have Chadli, Njie and Harrison to stick on the bench as back up back up striker.

I agree with most of your post apart from the reference about Oduwa, I watched him a lot during his loan at Rangers against on the whole really poor opposition and he is nowhere near ready to be anywhere near our squad presently.
 

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I agree with most of your post apart from the reference about Oduwa, I watched him a lot during his loan at Rangers against on the whole really poor opposition and he is nowhere near ready to be anywhere near our squad presently.

I'd happily have him on the bench to chuck on to run at tired legs toward the end of game. Having also watched just about every televised minute he played for Rangers I think he'd actually be worth a few minutes here and there in the EPL/Cup where he'd get much better protection from refs than he did in Scotland.
 

Supersi32

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I'd happily have him on the bench to chuck on to run at tired legs toward the end of game. Having also watched just about every televised minute he played for Rangers I think he'd actually be worth a few minutes here and there in the EPL/Cup where he'd get much better protection from refs than he did in Scotland.

PL defenders are much, much cuter than the ones he was playing against in Scotland and Oduwa struck me as a bit of a one trick pony, he should have ripped that league a new one and at times he struggled to make an impact on games, when you consider the influence Wharburton had on Pritchard, its disappointing that he's sent Oduwa back. I do think Dominic Ball is developing nicely though.
 

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So your saying since he may move to us he's shut up shop and not been bothered to work hard? That's a good attitude to have? Doesn't Berahino get slated for that?
Give it a rest. You had a day out on Saturday and didn't like what you saw in Dembele but as Trix has said our scouts will have watched him more than you and know what they're looking for. He's 19 and if they see something in the kid then I'll back them. All you seem to do based on fairly limited knowledge in slag off a potential signing.
You should probably write to the scouting team and Poch and tell them he's a dud and I'm sure they'll turn their attentions elsewhere.
 
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