Negativity

[thfc1989]

Grown adults put all their faith in what a stranger posts on the internet and then have tantrums when the stranger's words don't come to fruition.

We have been saying for a while that we don't have money to spend because of the stadium. We have signed relatively well given the circumstances, and only sold a few squad players.

The team that got us into the Champions League is still with us, yet people acting like our squad has been decimated because we sold Bentelab, Mason and Chadli who wouldn't even make our bench when all fit.

 

[Chimbo!]

On this topic, the IDK Discussion Thread is hilarious with all the doom and gloom. It makes for good reading how people can be so depressed about not signing someone; I recommend reading it – for like 5 minutes because it repeats itself.

They all forget, of course, that last year we finished 3rd. And they also forget that we've started this season without MOUSSA DEMBELE. We play so much better with him in the team; it's actually quite remarkable the difference he makes. If only he didn't eye gauge Dieg... Actually, tbf I'd also probably want to eye gauge that cheater if I was on the pitch.

 

[SugarRay]

The hysteria is amusing. Every single transfer window.

I never thought I'd see the day when people were moaning about Mason being moved on. When he played last season, we didn't win games!

Seriously though, Isco? Never, ever happening. I don't know why people allow themselves to get caught up in this nonsense. He's not that much of an improvement, if at all, on the likes of Eriksen, when Erisken is playing at his very best.

We just need to get our current players firing. Happy days.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Grown adults put all their faith in what a stranger posts on the internet and then have tantrums when the stranger's words don't come to fruition.

We have been saying for a while that we don't have money to spend because of the stadium. We have signed relatively well given the circumstances, and only sold a few squad players.

The team that got us into the Champions League is still with us, yet people acting like our squad has been decimated because we sold Bentelab, Mason and Chadli who wouldn't even make our bench when all fit.

I have said for ages that the stadium means we wont be free spending. People keep daying the stadium is already accounted for, but I have never believed this.

 

[Shadydan]

Would you start a premier league game with Onomah and Winks in the line up against the likes of Man City? No? Then we don't have enough cover.

Yep let's just do away with the youths then shall we, whats the point of having Pochettino when we can just stock pile journeyman and pay them stupid money to play 10 matches a season, such a ridiculous post.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

I'm looking at this the same way I would a company analysis.. and there is a pattern.. post talking to Sir Alex Rednose de Wino, Poch seems to be taking a much more strategic approach. ..

- keeping all our more experienced and senior players (i.e the ones he trusts absolutely)
- sell the ones who are in the middle but not quite meshing with the future he wants (attitude and / or ability)
-buying three key additions to provide cover for areas we are short in backup
-promoting the youth players who have potential


I applaud it ..

 

[mpickard2087]

Basically the vast majority of football fans think that you have to spend £100m every year and have 30 man squads because thats 'showing ambition'. The vast majority of those in charge of football clubs also share this view because it's an easy option, and 99% of it gets pissed up the wall. More complex variables such as showing some actual ability - coaching improvement from players, finding tactical advantages, bringing on young players etc - largely get ignored in this country.

I'm not totally impressed with the route Poch is going down, if truth be told, but if he and the club want to do things differently, and not just be about how much money we can spend and how quickly, then kudos to them. Didn't hurt us last season, and all those big clubs spent big then too.

Personally If I was in charge of football, the first thing I'd likely do is something like limit clubs to a transfer or two per season, and then see how interesting it gets when clubs didn't have that quick transfer fix anymore. One day........

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

Basically the vast majority of football fans think that you have to spend £100m every year and have 30 man squads because thats 'showing ambition'. The vast majority of those in charge of football clubs also share this view because it's an easy option, and 99% of it gets pissed up the wall. More complex variables such as showing some actual ability - coaching improvement from players, finding tactical advantages, bringing on young players etc - largely get ignored in this country.

I'm not totally impressed with the route Poch is going down, if truth be told, but if he and the club want to do things differently, and not just be about how much money we can spend and how quickly, then kudos to them. Didn't hurt us last season, and all those big clubs spent big then too.

Personally If I was in charge of football, the first thing I'd likely do is something like limit clubs to a transfer or two per season, and then see how interesting it gets when clubs didn't have that quick transfer fix anymore. One day........

No, that's not the thought.

The thought is that on the back of your best season ever, you invest money to try and sustain your position. If this is what it's about then I hope we never get CL football again. He never spent last time did he.

Like little old Leicester are doing.

Even Everton are having a go.

Just imagine..... we are less ambitious than Leicester or Everton right now.

 

[mpickard2087]

No, that's not the thought.

The thought is that on the back of your best season ever, you invest money to try and sustain your position. If this is what it's about then I hope we never get CL football again. He never spent last time did he.

Like little old Leicester are doing.

Even Everton are having a go.

Just imagine..... we are less ambitious than Leicester or Everton right now.

Two months ago people were wanking themselves silly proclaiming this team as the best of all time and whatnot, how it could only improve and shouldn't be broken up. The widely held view was we needed a striker - got, an alternative in central midfield - got, and pace/dribbling option - got.

Now though we see fans getting rattled because other clubs have thrown even more money about on shiny new toys.

I also don't know what people were expecting, with Poch in charge. We've heard for two years he wants a smaller, more versatile squad. His previous transfer M.O. has been to sign two or three players in the summer for what he needs. Then there is, rightly or wrongly, his belief in little rotation and that if you are tired then the solution is to work even harder. Lastly to give the last squad places and opportunities to younger players... I swear fans just don't pay attention to what goes on a lot of the time, even if there is a mountain of evidence in front of them.

 

[Shadydan]

No, that's not the thought.

The thought is that on the back of your best season ever, you invest money to try and sustain your position. If this is what it's about then I hope we never get CL football again. He never spent last time did he.

Like little old Leicester are doing.

Even Everton are having a go.

Just imagine..... we are less ambitious than Leicester or Everton right now.

I wonder why, could it be down to them not having to build a stadium do you reckon?

 

[SugarRay]

No, that's not the thought.

The thought is that on the back of your best season ever, you invest money to try and sustain your position. If this is what it's about then I hope we never get CL football again. He never spent last time did he.

Like little old Leicester are doing.

Even Everton are having a go.

Just imagine..... we are less ambitious than Leicester or Everton right now.

Leicester, champions of England?

When all our players are fit and on form, not a single signing made by Leicester and Everton this summer would improve our first XI. Why should we buy for the sake of it? The players required to actually improve our first XI are extremely difficult to get.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Basically the vast majority of football fans think that you have to spend £100m every year and have 30 man squads because thats 'showing ambition'. The vast majority of those in charge of football clubs also share this view because it's an easy option, and 99% of it gets pissed up the wall. More complex variables such as showing some actual ability - coaching improvement from players, finding tactical advantages, bringing on young players etc - largely get ignored in this country.

I'm not totally impressed with the route Poch is going down, if truth be told, but if he and the club want to do things differently, and not just be about how much money we can spend and how quickly, then kudos to them. Didn't hurt us last season, and all those big clubs spent big then too.

Personally If I was in charge of football, the first thing I'd likely do is something like limit clubs to a transfer or two per season, and then see how interesting it gets when clubs didn't have that quick transfer fix anymore. One day........

What route, @mpickard2087 ?

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

Yep let's just do away with the youths then shall we, whats the point of having Pochettino when we can just stock pile journeyman and pay them stupid money to play 10 matches a season, such a ridiculous post.

You rotate them gradually into the fold. They should never become the majority of the first team squad. Nothing I've seen of Onomah makes me think he will be a future first team player. Like Sherwood's little Bentelab experiment.

 

[Hoops]

Meh, where to begin.

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

Leicester, champions of England?

When all our players are fit and on form, not a single signing made by Leicester and Everton this summer would improve our first XI. Why should we buy for the sake of it? The players required to actually improve our first XI are extremely difficult to get.

Musa would improve us. Possibly Slimani also.

We are severely lacking pace.

 

[CowInAComa]

Decent window in my opinion.

Kept everyone worth keeping, added some good quality (whine all you like but I think our signings are good solid sensible buys). All pretty much what I would have asked for come the end of last season.

A marquee signing didnt happen but that sort of shit can destabilize a good side anyway, so ,whatever.

Teams competed for the title last year not big star names. I expect that to be the same again.

 

[Shadydan]

You rotate them gradually into the fold. They should never become the majority of the first team squad. Nothing I've seen of Onomah makes me think he will be a future first team player. Like Sherwood's little Bentelab experiment.

They're 4th and 5th choice in the midfield position, so when you ask a genuine question asking would you start Winks and Onomah against Man City of course you wouldn't but that is such an unrealistic example as it's never going to happen.

RE: Onomah the most important thing is that the manager rates him, you know the guy who has a track record with youth players and knows how to get the best out of them - he knows what he's doing and knows he's good enough to be part of the first team, I don't understand why you think you know better than him, honestly?

 

[Shadydan]

Musa would improve us. Possibly Slimani also.

We are severely lacking pace.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/georges-kevin-nkoudou-deal-complete-310816/

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

Getting cover for Dembele was a must.

Watching Wanyama and Dier trying to cover the same ground has been frustrating already this season. They just cannot play as a partnership.

 

[mpickard2087]

What route, @mpickard2087 ?

I think Poch seems, though I may be wrong as he continues to shape his squad, to be going down the 'power, power, and a bit more power' route. In my utopian ideal I'd want it done differently. Also don't agree with some of his personnel decisions. I also have some more controversial views on how a football club should be run, but if you're that interested for more details then drop me a PM, squire.