"Never Red" - Spurs have an inate disadvantage it seems...

[RogerTCB]

I just read an article in New Scientist that shows how wearing Red in a sporting context will give a team a significant advantage - and White a disadvantage. [http://www.newscientist.com/article...ed-how-colour-twists-your-mind.html?full=true]

It seems that facing an opponent who wears red puts you at a psychological disadvantage; a ref is more likely to give a close call decision in favour of a player in red and a goalie is more confident about saving a penalty if it is taken by a player wearing white.

Not getting that penalty at Old Trafford? Did the ball actually cross the line?...

Eek

 

[WhiteStripe]

Seen this before....the counter argument was always "Real Madrid"

 

[danielneeds]

Seen this before....the counter argument was always "Real Madrid"

Yeah but maybe having a fascist dictator on your side is a pretty useful counter-balance...?

 

[WhiteStripe]

Yeah but maybe having a fascist dictator on your side is a pretty useful counter-balance...?

Thats no way to talk about levy :wink:

 

[spurs mental]

If referees feel threatened by someone wearing a certain colour then they shouldn't be allowed to referee.

 

[Hoowl]

It's very believable. I'm sure there are many other external factors such as the crowd that have a larger influence on referees.

 

[RogerTCB]

If referees feel threatened by someone wearing a certain colour then they shouldn't be allowed to referee.

I agree but read the article, they have no choice in the matter. Worryingly, they wouldn't know it's happening.

 

[tylaw]

David Mitchell on the matter:

So why don't they all wear red? "If that happened, how could we tell them apart?" you may say. Well, we'd have long since found a way if most teams weren't willing to take a 10% performance hit in aid of visual clarity. Sport's governing bodies would have stepped in and either banned red entirely, inevitably leading to players secretly wearing scarlet underwear, or developed a system of distinguishing between teams by hat shape, smell, the squeaking noise their boots make or some other non-colour-dependent factor.
Fortunately, that's not been necessary because so many clubs don't seem to want to win – or at least are so resigned to defeat that their priority is preparing an excuse rather than striving for victory. "Well, you see, we don't wear red," Birmingham City can say to itself when its relegation is sealed at home to Arsenal in a few months' time, "so we never really had a chance."

 

[Raxscallion]

We should clearly swop our kit for red shirts. We should keep the sleeves white though, out of respect for tradition.

 

[RogerTCB]

Seen this before....the counter argument was always "Real Madrid"

The argument is that wearing red gives you an advantage, not that it guarantees a win. Real Madrid have had the odd factor in their favour which has nothing to do with shirt colour. If they're playing against Sporting de Gijon then having Ronaldo is going to do more for them than a splash of red will for Sporting. But it does say that if they are up against United in a close match on neutral territory, the ref is likely to give a decision or two in favour of United just because of the shirt. That might just tip the scales and, over a number of matches - like a league season - that will have a noticeable effect.

 

[mil1lion]

So what about a team with white shirts and mustard stains?

 

[Geyzer Soze]

FFS, now they are going to make us play PL games with a RED BALL!!!!!!

It's a conspiracy I tell thee!!!

 

[TwanYid]

We should be fine since we basically play in red nowadays.

 

[StartingPrice]

Breaking News: World renowned sighEntist SP reveals that having a fahook load of money gives clubs an advantage. In a ground-breaking study SP is set to shock the sighEntistic community with his controversial findings.

After extensive testing of the initial hypothesis, including distilling his own sweat down into a pure concentrate of Common Sense, results showed conclusively that in almost all aspects of the game having a fahook load of money does give clubs an advantage.

Commenting on the results of his study, SP said: "Time after time having a fahook load of money really does give an innate advantage to clubs wearing a dodgy oil mafioso owner. Situations can range from: berating referees for months before a Carling Cup final, even though in every instance being wrong/clearly hypocritical, and mouthing not so cryptic hints whether you will be allowed to win, having a fahook load of money will prevent the FA from clamping down on you and intimidate the referee/officials into colluding in your game plan of breaking the game up with niggling little fouls. Opposition club being allowed to bring a controversial goalkeeper in, even though there is zero precedent for it, for final game of season, and then same goalkeeper throwing ball into his own net 3 times to the detriment of his former club who he has a grudge against. To forcing poorer clubs to play final game clincher while half team is too ill to play and other half vomiting on pitch. To allowing one player from an oil mafioso team to forearm smash an opposition player, and then watch (WATCH) another oil-mafioso club player kick an oppos player in the head, and not only not send him off, but not even book him, allowing him to remain on the pitch in order to get and take an extremely soft penalty, in a head-to-head decider for a CL place. To, in the most extreme cases, being given almost two whole decades of incredibly dodgy decisions when your manager is a Beetroot Headed ****. In all of these situations the Authorities, FA, Premier League, Referees/officials always came down in favour of the clubs who have a fahook load of money, confirming the laboratory findings."

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

Does this go along with the theory that red cars get issued more speeding tickets?

Wot a load of cock.
(that was an unscientific opinion of course).

 

[Gassin's finest]

We've had red on our kit for a decade now, not made much difference to me.

 

[HappySpur]

I just read an article in New Scientist that shows how wearing Red in a sporting context will give a team a significant advantage - and White a disadvantage. [http://www.newscientist.com/article...ed-how-colour-twists-your-mind.html?full=true]

It seems that facing an opponent who wears red puts you at a psychological disadvantage; a ref is more likely to give a close call decision in favour of a player in red and a goalie is more confident about saving a penalty if it is taken by a player wearing white.

Not getting that penalty at Old Trafford? Did the ball actually cross the line?...

Eek

Color theory is always referred to as "chicken and egg" science when applied to team sports. First of all, red dye was always the easiest to make and is why most national flags use red and why red is the most common color in sports clubs (across the board).

Yet for it's significant numerical superiority in usage, it fails to meet its statistical advantage

the NHL, Portugal, Russia, the Netherlands, England and Germany have their most successful clubs in red

But England is dominated currently by blue and Russia's best side is currently Zenit in blue as well.

But outside of this

World Cup - Brazil and Germany are the top two
Mexico - Club America is the most successful and plays in blue and yellow
Ozzie Rules - Essedon and Carlton are joint most successful (but it's been 15 years since one of them won). Essedon has a red sash on their uniform and Carton is black and white. But most success recently has been Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood (none of which wear red)
All Ireland - Hurling goes to Kilkenny (black and yellow) and Gaelic goes to Kerry (green and yellow)
Spain - White is king but "blue and red" is catching up to be fair
Argentina - Boca is blue and yellow
Brazil - Santos and Palmerias are the two most successful clubs (black and white - green)
Series A - most successful team wears black and white - Juve
MLB - most successful team wears blue and white - Yankees Suck!
NFL - last time a team in red won it was 2001. Most successful are "black and yellow" Pittsburgh
NBA - Boston wears green and the Lakers wear purple and gold

 

[Lilbaz]

They should give us a 10 point headstart in the league then. It's only fair.

 

[spurs9]

Color theory is always referred to as "chicken and egg" science when applied to team sports. First of all, red dye was always the easiest to make and is why most national flags use red and why red is the most common color in sports clubs (across the board).

Yet for it's significant numerical superiority in usage, it fails to meet its statistical advantage

the NHL, Portugal, Russia, the Netherlands, England and Germany have their most successful clubs in red

But England is dominated currently by blue and Russia's best side is currently Zenit in blue as well.

But outside of this

World Cup - Brazil and Germany are the top two
Mexico - Club America is the most successful and plays in blue and yellow
Ozzie Rules - Essedon and Carlton are joint most successful (but it's been 15 years since one of them won). Essedon has a red sash on their uniform and Carton is black and white. But most success recently has been Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood (none of which wear red)
All Ireland - Hurling goes to Kilkenny (black and yellow) and Gaelic goes to Kerry (green and yellow)
Spain - White is king but "blue and red" is catching up to be fair
Argentina - Boca is blue and yellow
Brazil - Santos and Palmerias are the two most successful clubs (black and white - green)
Series A - most successful team wears black and white - Juve
MLB - most successful team wears blue and white - Yankees Suck!
NFL - last time a team in red won it was 2001. Most successful are "black and yellow" Pittsburgh
NBA - Boston wears green and the Lakers wear purple and gold

In Argentina, River Plate (Red & White) have won the league the most times not Boca. Independiente (Red) have won the Copa Libertadores the most.

In Germany, 2 of the top 3 clubs (Munich & Nurnburg) in history wear red.
In England, the top 3 most successful clubs in history wear red.
In the European cup/Champions league, only 1 team in the top 6 doesn't have red in their kit.
In Holland, 4 out of the 5 top teams in history have red in their kit.
In Spain, 3 out of the 4 top teams in history have red in their kit.
England wore red when they won the World Cup

 

[Ionman34]

Does this go along with the theory that red cars get issued more speeding tickets?

Wot a load of cock.
(that was an unscientific opinion of course).

It's not really a theory. I used to play Football with a motorway copper, who told me all about how they played "Snooker" to relieve the boredom. You had to stop a red car for each of the other colours until Black. You wouldn't necessarily get a ticket, but the odds on you getting stopped were much higher than with any other colour, apart from Pink.

Pink cars are fucked on a motorway when a game is on.