New Kit 18-19

[wirE]

I'm very anti Nike. Always have been. Can't help it, just not a fan of them full stop. Had a pair of runners years ago, and fell apart after 6 months wear, without running!
Still love my Umbro 94 kit. Wish i had the Adidas gear to be honest. Everything I have has 3 stripes. Considering the dearth of Adidas in London i hope we end up back there.

Well that's in the eye of the beholder imo. I've had several running shoes which I've used almost every day to work and after 6 months they start to fall apart because of daily use. I don't hate Asics or Nike because of wear and tear..

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

The scum are entering their last season with Puma and are widely reported to be moving to Adidas.

If it's true that Woolwich are soon to team with Adidas, then maybe a bit of spite at Puma's HQ is what drove them to design such an ugly kit for their final season there.

 

[Lighty64]

I think there's an on-going misunderstanding about our historical yellow away kits.

Yellow is not a traditional Spurs colour. Rather, yellow is a traditional colour for away shirts in general. Many, many teams have had a yellow away shirt over the years - I can recall Arse, Manyoo and Liverpool all having it at various stages. This was particularly true back in the days before your teals and turquoises and brown & golds were a thing in football shirts. (You can see Arse's away yellows over the years here: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Arsenal/Arsenal-change-kits.html The colour has extra meaning to them also because they won the title at Anfield in 1989 wearing yellow.)

I presume yellow became the default generic away colour because it didn't clash with reds, whites and blues. Sort of worked against anyone. As such, it's not correct to say Spurs have any particular emotional/historical connection to the colour.

it does in my history lol, and the 3 clubs you mentioned have the top history and records in the game (though they have shitty red as home kits).

 

[George94]

I think there's an on-going misunderstanding about our historical yellow away kits.

Yellow is not a traditional Spurs colour. Rather, yellow is a traditional colour for away shirts in general. Many, many teams have had a yellow away shirt over the years - I can recall Arse, Manyoo and Liverpool all having it at various stages. This was particularly true back in the days before your teals and turquoises and brown & golds were a thing in football shirts. (You can see Arse's away yellows over the years here: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Arsenal/Arsenal-change-kits.html The colour has extra meaning to them also because they won the title at Anfield in 1989 wearing yellow.)

I presume yellow became the default generic away colour because it didn't clash with reds, whites and blues. Sort of worked against anyone. As such, it's not correct to say Spurs have any particular emotional/historical connection to the colour.

Whether or not yellow is "traditionally" a Spurs colour - it certainly is one of the three colours I associate us with.
Lilywhite, Navy and Yellow.

 

[Pellshek]

Whether or not yellow is "traditionally" a Spurs colour - it certainly is one of the three colours I associate us with.
Lilywhite, Navy and Yellow.

Sure, but my point is that it's likely a majority of clubs could say the same. I already mentioned Arse, Manyoo and Liverpool. Others:

> Chelsea: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Chelsea/Chelsea-change-kits.html
> Everton: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Everton/Everton-change-kits.html
> Burnley: http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/en/teams/b/burnley/old-burnley-football-shirts-t24.html?type=Away

So of the current top 8, only Man City don't have a history of using yellow regularly (they did use it occasionally down the years). All the others have used it as regularly, or more regularly than Spurs: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/Tottenham_Hotspur-change-kits.html

I respect that you and others hold a different opinion, but I'm going to stick strongly to my original point: Yellow is not a Spurs colour,and it has no emotional or historical connection to us, except via the accidental fact that it didn't clash with opposition colours back in the days when shirt technology was primitive. If pink, orange or lime green dye had been cheaper and/or more widely available, we'd have used one of those instead.

This is not a good basis for forming an emotional attachment to a colour. If anything, its prevalence is a reason to disparage its importance to Spurs.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Sure, but my point is that it's likely a majority of clubs could say the same. I already mentioned Arse, Manyoo and Liverpool. Others:

> Chelsea: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Chelsea/Chelsea-change-kits.html
> Everton: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Everton/Everton-change-kits.html
> Burnley: http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/en/teams/b/burnley/old-burnley-football-shirts-t24.html?type=Away

So of the current top 8, only Man City don't have a history of using yellow regularly (they did use it occasionally down the years). All the others have used it as regularly, or more regularly than Spurs: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/Tottenham_Hotspur-change-kits.html

I respect that you and others hold a different opinion, but I'm going to stick strongly to my original point: Yellow is not a Spurs colour,and it has no emotional or historical connection to us, except via the accidental fact that it didn't clash with opposition colours back in the days when shirt technology was primitive. If pink, orange or lime green dye had been cheaper and/or more widely available, we'd have used one of those instead.

This is not a good basis for forming an emotional attachment to a colour. If anything, its prevalence is a reason to disparage its importance to Spurs.

Based on your logic though we could say the same about our home kit. Dozens of teams wear white and that's just in the UK.
Just because others use/used yellow doesn't mean it's not linked to our club. It's just not unique.

 

[Pellshek]

Based on your logic though we could say the same about our home kit. Dozens of teams wear white and that's just in the UK.
Just because others use/used yellow doesn't mean it's not linked to our club. It's just not unique.

My logic isn't that yellow is unimportant b/c other clubs use it, but that it's unimportant b/c it's an alien colour to our heritage. I only mentioned other clubs to demonstrate that yellow is a default colour that everyone uses, and for no better reason than it doesn't clash with any other colour. That's a terrible reason to give a colour heritage status.

By contrast, white and navy are the colours we've chosen. They're ours. The combination of genuine heritage elements - the white/Spurs navy, our badges & emblems etc - define who we are. Taken together, those are unique, even if Preston and Real also play in white. We shouldn't confuse these elements with decisions foisted on us due to lack of a good alternative in 1975.

 

[FreddieYid]

Sure, but my point is that it's likely a majority of clubs could say the same. I already mentioned Arse, Manyoo and Liverpool. Others:

> Chelsea: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Chelsea/Chelsea-change-kits.html
> Everton: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Everton/Everton-change-kits.html
> Burnley: http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/en/teams/b/burnley/old-burnley-football-shirts-t24.html?type=Away

So of the current top 8, only Man City don't have a history of using yellow regularly (they did use it occasionally down the years). All the others have used it as regularly, or more regularly than Spurs: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/Tottenham_Hotspur-change-kits.html

I respect that you and others hold a different opinion, but I'm going to stick strongly to my original point: Yellow is not a Spurs colour,and it has no emotional or historical connection to us, except via the accidental fact that it didn't clash with opposition colours back in the days when shirt technology was primitive. If pink, orange or lime green dye had been cheaper and/or more widely available, we'd have used one of those instead.

This is not a good basis for forming an emotional attachment to a colour. If anything, its prevalence is a reason to disparage its importance to Spurs.

Yellow, while not one of our founding colours, absolutely has a historical connection to the club... 19 or our 50 away kits between 1958 and 2010 were yellow, that’s nearly half of all the away kits during that period...

As someone has already pointed out, it was introduced by Bill Nic, would you say that wearing all white on European nights isn’t tradition because it wasn’t introduced until Bill Nic?

I’m sorry but your argument is completely flawed.

There are 92 teams in the English football league... impossible for teams to claim any single colour as unique to them.

Man Utd, Liverpool and Arse can still claim red as one of their club colours even though it’s not unique.

 

[FreddieYid]

If it's true that Woolwich are soon to team with Adidas, then maybe a bit of spite at Puma's HQ is what drove them to design such an ugly kit for their final season there.

As always, it’s actually a very well though out design by Puma... the addition of the armbands is an attempt to stop them sinking any further down the premier league.

Much like their kit the season before last where Puma noticed the team had no spine so duly obliged by adding it to the shirt.

 

[ajspurs]

Arsenal's away and third shirts primary colours are the same as ours next season funnily enough. To be honest every time I see Puma shirts I always think thank fuck we don't have them anymore. Not a fan of Puma at all and even when we had them the fit on the shirts were awful.

Plus they produced what I believe to be one of the worst home kits in our history, only overlooked due to what we achieved that season.

 

[wishkah]

As always, it’s actually a very well though out design by Puma... the addition of the armbands is an attempt to stop them sinking any further down the premier league.

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Much like their kit the season before last where Puma noticed the team had no spine so duly obliged by adding it to the shirt.

Someone should remind them that the cut off white section at the neck is the same as a ours from last/two seasons ago.

behind us in shirts and points now eh?

 

[mil1lion]

The Arsenal kit represents their current standing in football. It's the sort of shit we used to get when we were a mid table club. It reminds me of the days of Pony.

 

[Yid-ol]

My logic isn't that yellow is unimportant b/c other clubs use it, but that it's unimportant b/c it's an alien colour to our heritage. I only mentioned other clubs to demonstrate that yellow is a default colour that everyone uses, and for no better reason than it doesn't clash with any other colour. That's a terrible reason to give a colour heritage status.

By contrast, white and navy are the colours we've chosen. They're ours. The combination of genuine heritage elements - the white/Spurs navy, our badges & emblems etc - define who we are. Taken together, those are unique, even if Preston and Real also play in white. We shouldn't confuse these elements with decisions foisted on us due to lack of a good alternative in 1975.

So a red (or part red) away kit would be ok as it was part of the club in it's earlier years and so being in our heritage?

You never really needed a 3rd kit until not that long ago, at that point another colour had to be brought in, now some day yellow, others will say purple are now our 3rd kit colours mostly and part of our heritage within the last 70 odd years, some being 2nd and some being 3rd kits.

 

[Pellshek]

So a red (or part red) away kit would be ok as it was part of the club in it's earlier years and so being in our heritage?

Actually, yes, a red change kit would be more of a Spurs heritage element than a yellow one, but not because we wore red for a few years in the 1800's, but because the red lions of the Northumberland family coat of arms have a connection to Harry Hotspur and featured on a couple of our crests:

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These designs weren't chosen because they didn't look like a canon, a lion or a liver bird. They were chosen because they represented something about the club and our history. In the case of the first one above, it represents the Hotspur family coat of arms, Bruce Castle, Northumberland Park, a football, our motto, and of course our cockerel.

As such, picking a colour from one of these crests would be more linked to who we are than a shirt that was chosen solely - solely - because it didn't clash with oppositions' red, blue or white kits.

I guess some wag may point out that there's yellow on those crests. Well, yeah, on the outline frame, which is hardly a glorious element of our identity to select to represent the club.


TL/DR: We choose our colours - our colours don't choose us. #NoPissStains

 

[FreddieYid]

Actually, yes, a red change kit would be more of a Spurs heritage element than a yellow one, but not because we wore red for a few years in the 1800's, but because the red lions of the Northumberland family coat of arms have a connection to Harry Hotspur and featured on a couple of our crests:





These designs weren't chosen because they didn't look like a canon, a lion or a liver bird. They were chosen because they represented something about the club and our history. In the case of the first one above, it represents the Hotspur family coat of arms, Bruce Castle, Northumberland Park, a football, our motto, and of course our cockerel.

As such, picking a colour from one of these crests would be more linked to who we are than a shirt that was chosen solely - solely - because it didn't clash with oppositions' red, blue or white kits.

I guess some wag may point out that there's yellow on those crests. Well, yeah, on the outline frame, which is hardly a glorious element of our identity to select to represent the club.


TL/DR: We choose our colours - our colours don't choose us. #NoPissStains

Just to be clear, you do know the first of those two crests wasn’t introduced or infact even designed until 1956 a mere 2 years before we first wore a yellow away kit and 74 years after we were founded. We also never featured it on our kit apart from that one rogue Pony shirt.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Did you have a traumaric experience whilst watching the Simpsons @Pellshek?
You seem to have a serious aversion to yellow.

 

[nicdic]

Actually, yes, a red change kit would be more of a Spurs heritage element than a yellow one, but not because we wore red for a few years in the 1800's, but because the red lions of the Northumberland family coat of arms have a connection to Harry Hotspur and featured on a couple of our crests:





These designs weren't chosen because they didn't look like a canon, a lion or a liver bird. They were chosen because they represented something about the club and our history. In the case of the first one above, it represents the Hotspur family coat of arms, Bruce Castle, Northumberland Park, a football, our motto, and of course our cockerel.

As such, picking a colour from one of these crests would be more linked to who we are than a shirt that was chosen solely - solely - because it didn't clash with oppositions' red, blue or white kits.

I guess some wag may point out that there's yellow on those crests. Well, yeah, on the outline frame, which is hardly a glorious element of our identity to select to represent the club.


TL/DR: We choose our colours - our colours don't choose us. #NoPissStains

So you're using these two crests to argue for the use of the colour red, but not the colour yellow.

Just checking...

 

[Lighty64]

all these post and all because I said I preferred us with yellow.

 

[Yid-ol]

Quick Google brings this up.... Unless I am colour blind the each year we have red in the badge, we also have yellow.

 

[Yid-ol]

all these post and all because I said I preferred us with yellow.

So it's your fault..... Get the pitch forks!!