New Kit 2014-15
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HtownHotspur
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I follow them on Twitter and read their articles every now and then, same as Cartilage Free Captain, but don't comment on anything there. How'd you become a Texans fan?
Sweech
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A long ridiculous story. Yourself?
You're both missing my point.
I'm not complaining that we have a purple kit per se, I complaining that- for the second year in a row- our third kit template would've been absolutely note perfect in NAVY BLUE- which, I'm sure you'll agree- is more "Spurs" than either Yellow (which, though part of our heritage, is not a primary Tottenham color) or purple (also a shade ancillary rather than primary to our history).
They're both great- and as third kit colors are absolutely fucking dandy- but my point is: why can't they make an AWAY shirt- in NAVY BLUE- using the last two 3rd kit templates?!?
Humor me for a second. Image this season's purple kit in navy blue, with the "AIA" in white (if someone wants to be kind enough to Photoshop a mock-up I would be eternally grateful). Now, can you argue with me that that wouldn't look incredible? Even- dare I say it- better than it does in purple?
That's all I'm saying.
Other colors are fine- I'd just like a stunner in navy fucking blue for once since, after all, navy blue and white are our primary colors. Care to argue that? Are our colors not WHITE AND NAVY BLUE!?!?
Or are they "yellow and purple?"
Do the words go:
'They're the boys in yellow and purple- and they're fucking dy-na-mite...!"
No, right?
Our PRIMARY BLOODY COLORS ARE WHITE AND NAVY BLUE- end of.
And yet, they so rarely get a navy blue shirt right. It's such a gorgeous color and would be perfect if done in the style of our current third kit.
Purple is fucking fine- I don't care if we have shirts in purple. That wasn't the basis of my frustration. The basis of my frustration is how rare a perfect Tottenham top in navy blue is.
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Yid-ol
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You were saying it's not our colour, I don't think I missed that point at all.
I disagree, if we have a simple top like that each yeah and expected to pay 40-50 for it I would be passed off, I want our shirts to be different and that's what we are getting.
If you want a navy blue top, just buy a t shirt.
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That's lovely as well.Here you go. Try not to get too excited, eh?
Ok- it's not our primary color.
Our colors- such that one instantly identifies them with our club- are navy blue and white. Period. Yellow is a distant third, and purple is a distant 4th. Neither of those are our main shades. They are ancillary colors- they are NOT instantly recognizable Spurs colors. Do we understand each other now?
The song ain't "Harry Redknapp's blue and white and yellow and purple army" for fuck's sake.
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Yid-ol
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Here you go. Try not to get too excited, eh?
It's nice, but to me simple designs like this are for every so many years. For a marketing purposes it's not worth the club doing this each year and to me I like the other two designs more as they are different than the normal.
Plus the aia on the blue top will be red if that did happen, IMO.
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red wouldn't show up on it. If its a navy it will be a white logo
SpunkyBackpack
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So after 169 pages we've finally got to the bottom of all of TwanYid's never ending rage.... he likes blue.
I like our primary colors- white and navy blue- yes, I do. Love them in fact.
And too often I feel as though the club- for God knows what reason- almost pathologically avoids making a great kit with the latter.
A beautiful, simple, streamlined, perfect Spurs kit in navy blue is as rare as a dodo bird egg.
**Edit** As far as my navy blue fetish is concerned, the best one of late was the 2012-13 version, but in that case I hated the sponsor (Aurasma). Still, I'll give the club credit for that effort- 'twas a beaut. Then, as I said before- two seasons ago would've been the bet kit in our history had they not gone and added those ridiculous blue checkered bits to the shoulders.
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That would be the epitome of perfection, tbh.That's lovely as well.
Here you go. Try not to get too excited, eh?
Thanks for that. I would buy fifty of those.
guiltyparty
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Ah, but would an American teenager?
I really like that shirt but it would be very similar to this (which was also very nice)
Hey my favourite away kit ever is this
And I always thought the perfect third for this would have been reversed
But instead we got this lime tinged mofo
Love the design consistency of the new ones
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Ah, but would an American teenager?
I really like that shirt but it would be very similar to this (which was also very nice)
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Hey my favourite away kit ever is this
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And I always thought the perfect third for this would have been reversed
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But instead we got this lime tinged mofo
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Love the design consistency of the new ones
Number one- is the "American teenager" our target market? And if so- yes, I think they would like a streamlined shirt in navy blue- it looks good on anyone.
Number two- I went out of my way to praise that 2012-13 shirt- and- what's wrong with copying the fucking thing four years on?!? That was one of our nicest kits in ages- you imply that aping it would somehow be a bad thing.
Number three (which has to do with number two, but is still different enough to stand on its own): what's wrong with consistency? FFS- Chelsea and City do pretty much the same kit every year and somehow they manage to get by. Plus- I'm not even calling for a simple, streamlined navy blue effort every season- I'd be satisfied with once every three-four years- and they can't even produce that! For example: this season, why didn't they do the 3rd kit template as our away kit (replacing purple with navy blue- as beautifully shown above), and then go crazy with their fucking "hoops" garbage design on our 3rd kit, in purple?!?
Knock yourself the fuck out- do the kit in fucking paisley with purple and green bits for all I care- but as a third kit!!!!
Why can't our away kit reflect our traditional, base colors (navy blue and white) and be- for lack of a better word- smart-- whilst our third can be whatever the designer wants in whatever naff patterns he (or she, or they) fancy?!?
Again: would it not be nice- preferable even- to have this season's away kit look the same as this season's third kit, only replacing purple with navy blue?
Is this not a sound wish? Why am I made to feel like a pariah when in fact everyone and their mother would love a beautiful Spurs kit in navy effing blue?
guiltyparty
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I think you're confusing my personal opinion with me attempting to understand why they do what they do.
They don't just press 'random' on a printer, it will be considered. There's big money and global reach at stake.
Chelsea's away kits have been all over the shop: http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Chelsea/Chelsea-change-kits.html
And City have had white, black, dark blue fading to royal blue, purple, maroon, yellow, black and red striped, black and grey halves and light blue/dark blue/white hoops in recent memory. (Historical kits presumably can't be arsed to do City but Google image search will show them)
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No- I get what you're saying- that these decisions are taken at the corporate-boardroom level.
You don't think I know that? You don't think I understand how many (deluded) cooks are making the Spurs-kit broth?
My point is that they pretty much always go away from what can objectively be called "beautiful."
Yes, I know: what is "beautiful?"
Well, for example- last season's home shirt was a fucking catastrophe. It just was. You know that, I know that, we ALL know that. And the sales- shocker!- reflected that; almost no one liked the fucking thing, because it was putrid. Right?
Well- that was them getting all "let's get 'Asian' and go for a 'Mandarin/Oriental' theme now that we're aligned with a huge Chinese insurance conglomerate."
Did it work? Nope. It fucking failed miserably.
So yeah, I understand that they're marketing to this segment and trying to reach that one, but in the end the reasons are meaningless-- a crap shirt is a crap shirt. Instead, what I'm proposing is that they take one of our two primary colors- navy blue- and make a beautiful kit out of it. No chevrons, no stripes, no bells, no whistles, no whirly-gigs, no nothing- just a navy blue shirt with the sponsor in white- job done.
Or- in other words- what Chelsea and City do with their home kits every fucking year without fail.
You don't think I know that? You don't think I understand how many (deluded) cooks are making the Spurs-kit broth?
My point is that they pretty much always go away from what can objectively be called "beautiful."
Yes, I know: what is "beautiful?"
Well, for example- last season's home shirt was a fucking catastrophe. It just was. You know that, I know that, we ALL know that. And the sales- shocker!- reflected that; almost no one liked the fucking thing, because it was putrid. Right?
Well- that was them getting all "let's get 'Asian' and go for a 'Mandarin/Oriental' theme now that we're aligned with a huge Chinese insurance conglomerate."
Did it work? Nope. It fucking failed miserably.
So yeah, I understand that they're marketing to this segment and trying to reach that one, but in the end the reasons are meaningless-- a crap shirt is a crap shirt. Instead, what I'm proposing is that they take one of our two primary colors- navy blue- and make a beautiful kit out of it. No chevrons, no stripes, no bells, no whistles, no whirly-gigs, no nothing- just a navy blue shirt with the sponsor in white- job done.
Or- in other words- what Chelsea and City do with their home kits every fucking year without fail.
guiltyparty
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No I didn't think you did, as if you do, why are you so angry?
They're not trying to make a 'beautiful' kit, they're trying to make something that sells en masse, in different markets. You're proposing they target you alone. 'Crap' is subjective. Many on here think Chelsea's same home kit every year is really boring. "You really want to spend £50 on the same shirt every year? Just keep wearing the old ones" etc
But seriously, I'd love to see the shirt sales figures that show that the mandarin shirt sold poorly globally, be fascinating. Where'd you see that?
As far as I know that period of accounting hasn't been reported yet. Merchandising sales rose £13million over 2013/14, the year before that kit was introduced http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/tottenham-hotspur-bottom-line.html
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