New Stadium Details And Discussions

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Can't remember exactly what was said, but I wonder if the roof delay is something to do with what someone mentioned on here not too long ago about building / safety inspectors finding something wrong something structural ? (Or something like that )

 

[arunspurs]

Can't remember exactly what was said, but I wonder if the roof delay is something to do with what someone mentioned on here not too long ago about building / safety inspectors finding something wrong something structural ? (Or something like that )

Thats pure speculation.
What we know is roof lift was delayed for couple of weeks in Feb. I just feel we may be a bit behind due to the delays due to it

 

[worcestersauce]

Can't remember exactly what was said, but I wonder if the roof delay is something to do with what someone mentioned on here not too long ago about building / safety inspectors finding something wrong something structural ? (Or something like that )

Wouldn't have thought so as that would lead me to believe it definitely won't be ready, I'm sure the roof design must have been accepted as safe before permission was granted wouldn't it?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Thats pure speculation.
What we know is roof lift was delayed for couple of weeks in Feb. I just feel we may be a bit behind due to the delays due to it

Wouldn't have thought so as that would lead me to believe it definitely won't be ready, I'm sure the roof design must have been accepted as safe before permission was granted wouldn't it?

I genuinely don't know. I'm just sure I read something in here (can't remember if it was ITK) about something structural being discovered

 

[mickeybaz]

I genuinely don't know. I'm just sure I read something in here (can't remember if it was ITK) about something structural being discovered

This one ?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

If there was a serious structural problem they wouldn’t be adding weight to it by putting more of the roof on.

 

[Majick]

May have required re-jigging. My experience (not on anything this big) is that any serious construction will be checked over regularly during the build and it's not unusual to have to make tweaks as they go - there's been changes to the details (including capacity) since they first started, so I'm sure there's had to be structural adjustments as well.

 

[Hoopspur]

Can't remember exactly what was said, but I wonder if the roof delay is something to do with what someone mentioned on here not too long ago about building / safety inspectors finding something wrong something structural ? (Or something like that )

There was something maybe 4 months ago that said that the company building the casettes was way behind schedule. Also another that said they didn't fit properly. Personally I blame Levy for not getting them sorted before the World Cup - same old, same old!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Wouldn't have thought so as that would lead me to believe it definitely won't be ready, I'm sure the roof design must have been accepted as safe before permission was granted wouldn't it?

This one ? View attachment 38417

Yes that's the fucker. Thank you

And no, I didn't keep trying to rate *Winner* by pressing the icons on the bottom of your quote

 

[jonnyp]

As someone who works on big construction projects, the only reason I can see for roof being late is delayed material. See no other reason why they cannot finish it in three months.

 

[fridgemagnet]

As someone who works on big construction projects, the only reason I can see for roof being late is delayed material. See no other reason why they cannot finish it in three months.

Possibly held up due to that snowy spell, perhaps it delayed deliveries and or workforce not just to the stadium but to suppliers of roofing material constructors and we're seeing the knock on effect 3-4 months down the line.

I've no clue how that sort of tender would have been agreed to if they couldn't guarantee all the cassettes be on time and to budget (bar acts of doG) is it the same firm installing them as makes them?

If it's anything like the glass panels (around the main entrance at least) there looks to be lots of "finishing" strips to go between each glass section (fella in the cherry picker below) I doubt many of them are uniform either so that could be drawn out and tedious



Also isn't the roof slightly complicated by allowing spectators to walk around/abseil off of it (or have I misunderstood the plans again?)

Actually Ignoring all the above I'm sure I saw a mention somewhere of the installers doing some on the job training with apprentices* which is slowing progress slightly.

*I've no idea if these would be apprenticeship's for new workers employed from the local Tottenham area or just your normal construction project apprenticeship. Did we not need to offer a number of work openings for locals? Again I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick here.

And as oft said only about 10 people probably really know if it's behind or not, I've been expecting first home game after the int break, any sooner dandy.

If's, buts, arseholes, airports etc.

 

[Flashspur]

edmonton: Everything on time except the roof. I am not concerned about mid September for the first game at the moment.

Bugger me but I am watching the cams and its nighttime in the UK and nothing, nada activity on the roof over the last two evenings. If the roof is behind the timeline and obviously on the critical path, they seem very relaxed!

 

[fridgemagnet]

Bugger me but I am watching the cams and its nighttime in the UK and nothing, nada activity on the roof over the last two evenings. If the roof is behind the timeline and obviously on the critical path, they seem very relaxed!

Aren't thunderstorms predicted again for tonight? Could be safety and health reasons, pure speculation mind.

 

[jonnyp]

Possibly held up due to that snowy spell, perhaps it delayed deliveries and or workforce not just to the stadium but to suppliers of roofing material constructors and we're seeing the knock on effect 3-4 months down the line.

I've no clue how that sort of tender would have been agreed to if they couldn't guarantee all the cassettes be on time and to budget (bar acts of doG) is it the same firm installing them as makes them?

If it's anything like the glass panels (around the main entrance at least) there looks to be lots of "finishing" strips to go between each glass section (fella in the cherry picker below) I doubt many of them are uniform either so that could be drawn out and tedious



Also isn't the roof slightly complicated by allowing spectators to walk around/abseil off of it (or have I misunderstood the plans again?)

Actually Ignoring all the above I'm sure I saw a mention somewhere of the installers doing some on the job training with apprentices* which is slowing progress slightly.

*I've no idea if these would be apprenticeship's for new workers employed from the local Tottenham area or just your normal construction project apprenticeship. Did we not need to offer a number of work openings for locals? Again I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick here.

And as oft said only about 10 people probably really know if it's behind or not, I've been expecting first home game after the int break, any sooner dandy.

If's, buts, arseholes, airports etc.

Obviously if the material doesn't fit as designed it will of course cause delays fabricating new material - but that would be a monumental screw up by engineering, design and procurement. I work on large oil and gas projects and we work with tolerances as small as 0.2 to 0.5 mm on some interfaces and you'd be amazed how few instances we have mismatch or where it cannot be rectified in-situ. Today's technologies, 3D models, simulations, tools and know-how are pretty amazing.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

*I've no idea if these would be apprenticeship's for new workers employed from the local Tottenham area or just your normal construction project apprenticeship. Did we not need to offer a number of work openings for locals? Again I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick here.

Yes, there is a local labour requirement in the S.106 Agreement and a system for logging and monitoring local apprenticeships. But the subcontractor should have accounted for this in the programme. These requirements are commonplace and the requirement would have been in the tender document.

Bugger me but I am watching the cams and its nighttime in the UK and nothing, nada activity on the roof over the last two evenings. If the roof is behind the timeline and obviously on the critical path, they seem very relaxed!

I can't see why the roof would be on the critical path. They still have three months to finish it. It's just that it's very visible and large-scale, so everyone is obsessing about the roof, as opposed to the complex operations indoors, which are invisible to the webcams, but essential for getting the building approved for use.

 

[Coq_Au_Ginge]

TL cam 2 is back-up, looks like it's moved further back too

 

[spursgirls]

Have it you slags. They must be confident it's going to be ready.

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I put that in the picture thread a couple of days ago!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

can't see why the roof would be on the critical path. They still have three months to finish it. It's just that it's very visible and large-scale, so everyone is obsessing about the roof, as opposed to the complex operations indoors, which are invisible to the webcams, but essential for getting the building approved for use.

To be fair, David. I think people are only obsessing with the roof because of the info from Edmonton that @dovahkiin kindly whored and shared yesterday evening.

That said, I do agree with you, and people are obsessing about what they can see on cam, rather than what's happening out of sight.

 

[worcestersauce]

To be fair, David. I think people are only obsessing with the roof because of the info from Edmonton that @dovahkiin kindly whored and shared yesterday evening.

That said, I do agree with you, and people are obsessing about what they can see on cam, rather than what's happening out of sight.

When I read that post I thought to myself exactly that, people are going to ignore the positive nature of the post and just fixate on the roof delay, even though it didn't say it wouldn't be done just that it was behind.
My information from someone linked to one of the companies working on the inside is that the stuff we can't see is going fine. That's not ITK but I accept it as true.

 

[TheWallYid]

To think a year ago we just finished playing our last home game!!

Don't think it will be ready but who knows. Im sure I heard 31st May is a critical day to confirm whether we will have to push back our home fixtures to mid September. On fixture day announcement I presume we will know either way.