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arthurgrimsdell

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Feb 16, 2004
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Pre CL Leeds had to play a replayed game at a neutral ground https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-leeds-ordered-to-play-third-match-1555300.html . There was no rule regarding CL winners when Liverpool won but didn't qualify through their league position but EUFA changed the rules to put them in the following seasons CL. I think PL and EUFA can pretty much do what they like regarding rules, according to PL rules a registered home ground can be changed with PL board approval.

Regulations of the Champions League 2015-18 Cycle;

Article 23
Venues and kick-off times
23.01
As a rule, the play-offs, group matches, round of 16 matches, quarter-finals, semifinals and final kick off at 20.45CET. Exceptions to this rule can be set by the UEFA administration.
23.02 In principle, the fixtures within a group on the last matchday are played simultaneously. The UEFA administration is authorised to fix the kick-off times.
23.03 In principle, a club must play all its matches in the competition at one and the same venue. As of the play-offs the venue can be changed only based on a UEFA decision. A venue may be the ground of the home club or another ground in the same or another city within the territory of its association, or, if so decided by the UEFA administration and/or the UEFA disciplinary bodies, in the territory of another UEFA member association for reasons of safety or as a result of a disciplinary measure. In principle, venues are approved only if direct international flights and/or charter flights are able to land within an acceptable distance of the venue, in the country of the club concerned. If the match is being played in another city or country, the venue is subject to the approval of the UEFA administration.
23.04
If, at any time during the season, the UEFA administration deems that, for whatever reason, a venue may not be fit for staging a match, UEFA may consult the association and club concerned and ask them to propose an alternative venue, in accordance with the UEFA requirements. Should such an association and club not be able to propose an acceptable alternative venue by the deadline set by the UEFA administration, UEFA may select an alternative, neutral venue. The club concerned will have to make all the necessary arrangements for the staging of the match together with the relevant association and local authorities. In both cases, the costs of staging the match are borne by the home club. The UEFA administration takes a final decision on such match venue in due time.


Premier League Handbook 2018

Ground Registration
K.5. Each Club shall register its Stadium with the Board and must play all matches in the competitions listed in Rule L.9 for which it is the Home Club at the Stadium. No Club shall remove to another Stadium (either on a permanent or temporary basis) without first obtaining the written consent of the Board, in accordance with Rule K.6, below.
K.6. In considering whether to give any such consent, the Board shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case (including, but not limited to, the factors set out in this Rule K.6) and shall not consent unless reasonably satisfied that such consent:
K.6.1. would be consistent with the objects of the League as set out in the Memorandum;
K.6.2. would be appropriate having in mind the relationship (if any) between the locality with which by its name or otherwise the applicant Club is traditionally associated and that in which such Club proposes to establish its Stadium;
K.6.3. would not to any material extent adversely affect such Club’s Officials, Players, supporters, shareholders, sponsors and others having an interest in its activities; K.6.4. would not have a material adverse effect on Visiting Clubs;

My reading of the above is that any temporary use of a different stadium to the one registered has to be cleared with UEFA or the Premier League as appropriate. So, anyone other than these two authorities saying we can't would be exceeding their authority.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Aug 9, 2017
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Regulations of the Champions League 2015-18 Cycle;

Article 23
Venues and kick-off times
23.01
As a rule, the play-offs, group matches, round of 16 matches, quarter-finals, semifinals and final kick off at 20.45CET. Exceptions to this rule can be set by the UEFA administration.
23.02 In principle, the fixtures within a group on the last matchday are played simultaneously. The UEFA administration is authorised to fix the kick-off times.
23.03 In principle, a club must play all its matches in the competition at one and the same venue. As of the play-offs the venue can be changed only based on a UEFA decision. A venue may be the ground of the home club or another ground in the same or another city within the territory of its association, or, if so decided by the UEFA administration and/or the UEFA disciplinary bodies, in the territory of another UEFA member association for reasons of safety or as a result of a disciplinary measure. In principle, venues are approved only if direct international flights and/or charter flights are able to land within an acceptable distance of the venue, in the country of the club concerned. If the match is being played in another city or country, the venue is subject to the approval of the UEFA administration.
23.04
If, at any time during the season, the UEFA administration deems that, for whatever reason, a venue may not be fit for staging a match, UEFA may consult the association and club concerned and ask them to propose an alternative venue, in accordance with the UEFA requirements. Should such an association and club not be able to propose an acceptable alternative venue by the deadline set by the UEFA administration, UEFA may select an alternative, neutral venue. The club concerned will have to make all the necessary arrangements for the staging of the match together with the relevant association and local authorities. In both cases, the costs of staging the match are borne by the home club. The UEFA administration takes a final decision on such match venue in due time.


Premier League Handbook 2018

Ground Registration
K.5. Each Club shall register its Stadium with the Board and must play all matches in the competitions listed in Rule L.9 for which it is the Home Club at the Stadium. No Club shall remove to another Stadium (either on a permanent or temporary basis) without first obtaining the written consent of the Board, in accordance with Rule K.6, below.
K.6. In considering whether to give any such consent, the Board shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case (including, but not limited to, the factors set out in this Rule K.6) and shall not consent unless reasonably satisfied that such consent:
K.6.1. would be consistent with the objects of the League as set out in the Memorandum;
K.6.2. would be appropriate having in mind the relationship (if any) between the locality with which by its name or otherwise the applicant Club is traditionally associated and that in which such Club proposes to establish its Stadium;
K.6.3. would not to any material extent adversely affect such Club’s Officials, Players, supporters, shareholders, sponsors and others having an interest in its activities; K.6.4. would not have a material adverse effect on Visiting Clubs;

My reading of the above is that any temporary use of a different stadium to the one registered has to be cleared with UEFA or the Premier League as appropriate. So, anyone other than these two authorities saying we can't would be exceeding their authority.

Thanks for finding that , some journalists just make up fake news about playing home games as you have showed there would be no problem with playing somewhere else for a couple of games if the ground is not ready but let's be positive it will be ready but not finished.
 

mattyspurs

It is what it is
Jan 31, 2005
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It looks fucking awesome. So Jealous of you guys and gals who are going to be fortunate to go every other week.

If i'm honest, i'm much more excited by this than any transfer that we could make this summer
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
41,363
74,893
Regulations of the Champions League 2015-18 Cycle;

Article 23
Venues and kick-off times
23.01
As a rule, the play-offs, group matches, round of 16 matches, quarter-finals, semifinals and final kick off at 20.45CET. Exceptions to this rule can be set by the UEFA administration.
23.02 In principle, the fixtures within a group on the last matchday are played simultaneously. The UEFA administration is authorised to fix the kick-off times.
23.03 In principle, a club must play all its matches in the competition at one and the same venue. As of the play-offs the venue can be changed only based on a UEFA decision. A venue may be the ground of the home club or another ground in the same or another city within the territory of its association, or, if so decided by the UEFA administration and/or the UEFA disciplinary bodies, in the territory of another UEFA member association for reasons of safety or as a result of a disciplinary measure. In principle, venues are approved only if direct international flights and/or charter flights are able to land within an acceptable distance of the venue, in the country of the club concerned. If the match is being played in another city or country, the venue is subject to the approval of the UEFA administration.
23.04
If, at any time during the season, the UEFA administration deems that, for whatever reason, a venue may not be fit for staging a match, UEFA may consult the association and club concerned and ask them to propose an alternative venue, in accordance with the UEFA requirements. Should such an association and club not be able to propose an acceptable alternative venue by the deadline set by the UEFA administration, UEFA may select an alternative, neutral venue. The club concerned will have to make all the necessary arrangements for the staging of the match together with the relevant association and local authorities. In both cases, the costs of staging the match are borne by the home club. The UEFA administration takes a final decision on such match venue in due time.


Premier League Handbook 2018

Ground Registration
K.5. Each Club shall register its Stadium with the Board and must play all matches in the competitions listed in Rule L.9 for which it is the Home Club at the Stadium. No Club shall remove to another Stadium (either on a permanent or temporary basis) without first obtaining the written consent of the Board, in accordance with Rule K.6, below.
K.6. In considering whether to give any such consent, the Board shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case (including, but not limited to, the factors set out in this Rule K.6) and shall not consent unless reasonably satisfied that such consent:
K.6.1. would be consistent with the objects of the League as set out in the Memorandum;
K.6.2. would be appropriate having in mind the relationship (if any) between the locality with which by its name or otherwise the applicant Club is traditionally associated and that in which such Club proposes to establish its Stadium;
K.6.3. would not to any material extent adversely affect such Club’s Officials, Players, supporters, shareholders, sponsors and others having an interest in its activities; K.6.4. would not have a material adverse effect on Visiting Clubs;

My reading of the above is that any temporary use of a different stadium to the one registered has to be cleared with UEFA or the Premier League as appropriate. So, anyone other than these two authorities saying we can't would be exceeding their authority.

Thank you.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
41,363
74,893
I remember when they were building the os and all the pictures showed that the stands were miles away from the pitch. All the west ham fans said that this was because the photos used fish eye lenses and that the stands were actually closer in reality. How come nobody uses a fish eye lense when taking pictures of our stadium?

:sneaky:
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
60,372
130,305
I remember when they were building the os and all the pictures showed that the stands were miles away from the pitch. All the west ham fans said that this was because the photos used fish eye lenses and that the stands were actually closer in reality. How come nobody uses a fish eye lense when taking pictures of our stadium?

:sneaky:
Fish eyes plays at the Emirates.
 

HobbitSpur

The Voice of Reason
Jun 28, 2013
1,785
3,818
I remember when they were building the os and all the pictures showed that the stands were miles away from the pitch. All the west ham fans said that this was because the photos used fish eye lenses and that the stands were actually closer in reality. How come nobody uses a fish eye lense when taking pictures of our stadium?

:sneaky:

Oh but they are ;)
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
26,967
45,257
Ok I've just checked the interactive camera's and the first one, the view of the West stand from over the road, and they have begun closing/filling the gaps between the individual eves, they have seemingly joined three together at the northwest corner so if you want to get an idea of how the rim of the stadium will look it's worth having a look at.
 

RichieS

Well-Known Member
Dec 23, 2004
11,916
16,436
Ok I've just checked the interactive camera's and the first one, the view of the West stand from over the road, and they have begun closing/filling the gaps between the individual eves, they have seemingly joined three together at the northwest corner so if you want to get an idea of how the rim of the stadium will look it's worth having a look at.
Good spot.
 

mickeybaz

Well-Known Member
Mar 13, 2007
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Ok I've just checked the interactive camera's and the first one, the view of the West stand from over the road, and they have begun closing/filling the gaps between the individual eves, they have seemingly joined three together at the northwest corner so if you want to get an idea of how the rim of the stadium will look it's worth having a look at.


Well spotted, do you know what's happened to the "T" in "TO DARE etc." ?
 
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