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Shadydan

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The pitch could change over very easily in that time but it’s everything else like changing flags/banners down the high road. Getting players warmed down and out of the ground well before the NFL guys come in to set up their changing rooms.

That’s all before you look at 120,000 fans crossing over with 60k leaving at the same time that 60k are arriving. Not sure if you’ve tried walking / driving down the high road outside WHL but it’s crazily busy for a good two hours after FT and that’s assuming that people head straight for the gates without staying behind for a drink.

I just think it would be too high risk for the police to sign off on and far more likely to be us Sat / NFL on Sun or NFL weekend with us on a Monday

There's a 4 hour window between 2 and 6, I highly doubt you'd get that many fans crossing over in that time.
 

nailsy

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The pitch could change over very easily in that time but it’s everything else like changing flags/banners down the high road. Getting players warmed down and out of the ground well before the NFL guys come in to set up their changing rooms.

That’s all before you look at 120,000 fans crossing over with 60k leaving at the same time that 60k are arriving. Not sure if you’ve tried walking / driving down the high road outside WHL but it’s crazily busy for a good two hours after FT and that’s assuming that people head straight for the gates without staying behind for a drink.

I just think it would be too high risk for the police to sign off on and far more likely to be us Sat / NFL on Sun or NFL weekend with us on a Monday

We'll see I guess. Why would our players need to leave before the NFL teams arrived though? They've got separate changing rooms. Am I missing something?
 

Dillspur

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There's a 4 hour window between 2 and 6, I highly doubt you'd get that many fans crossing over in that time.

I would disagree, the kickoff may be 6 for the NFL game but that doesn't mean fans will be in the stadium at 6, an NFL game is typically an all day event, Levy will want to maximize the potential and would probably want fans in 2-3 hours before kick off.

The NFL would also probably want a 4pm kick off, this would be 8am west coast and give them games pretty much all day Sunday.
 

Shadydan

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I would disagree, the kickoff may be 6 for the NFL game but that doesn't mean fans will be in the stadium at 6, an NFL game is typically an all day event, Levy will want to maximize the potential and would probably want fans in 2-3 hours before kick off.

The NFL would also probably want a 4pm kick off, this would be 8am west coast and give them games pretty much all day Sunday.

Yes but not 60000 fans, the overwhelming majority aren't hanging around after the match likewise the majority are not turning up 2 hours before the kick off.
 

nailsy

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I would disagree, the kickoff may be 6 for the NFL game but that doesn't mean fans will be in the stadium at 6, an NFL game is typically an all day event, Levy will want to maximize the potential and would probably want fans in 2-3 hours before kick off.

The NFL would also probably want a 4pm kick off, this would be 8am west coast and give them games pretty much all day Sunday.

The Seahawks against the Raiders was a 6PM start this year. To be fair pre-game entertainment started 40 minutes before that so it does cut down the turnaround time a bit. I'm sure everyone would prefer to have the matches on separate days, so we'll just have to wait and see if we ever need such a quick change around.
 

aliyid

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I think it’s technically possible but unrealistic in a ‘why would we give ourselves the headache’ kind of way (y)
 

worcestersauce

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I do think people are being negative, there is absolutely no reason the two events would have to be exclusive, they could sell it as a festival of sport in Tottenham and have flags and banners all around the area for both events, they wouldn't have to refrain from hanging NFL stuff until after the Spurs game was over. The logistics of 120,000 people might actually suit the authorities on one day rather than have to do it all again the next day plus some people might make a day of it and see both games. Any NFL game would be timed to at least four hours after if not more and I am sure the pitch would be ready. All that said I don't believe Daniel Levy was seriously pushing the idea for competitive games, certainly not for the first time anyway, but imagine a preseason show event, I'm sure that would catch the imagination.
 

coys200

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Are people missing the fact that Levy specifically mentioned we could do it on the same day. He used it at a USP in the interview he did.
 

Trees

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To my mind 1230 and 130 kick off times against Newcastle and Leic indicate they are ready to open in February. They would have wanted earlier kick off and daylight kick off times to deal with any issues.

Fingers x’d !
 

Lilbaz

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The pitch could change over very easily in that time but it’s everything else like changing flags/banners down the high road. Getting players warmed down and out of the ground well before the NFL guys come in to set up their changing rooms.

That’s all before you look at 120,000 fans crossing over with 60k leaving at the same time that 60k are arriving. Not sure if you’ve tried walking / driving down the high road outside WHL but it’s crazily busy for a good two hours after FT and that’s assuming that people head straight for the gates without staying behind for a drink.

I just think it would be too high risk for the police to sign off on and far more likely to be us Sat / NFL on Sun or NFL weekend with us on a Monday

The only time nfl and football might be played on the same day there would be 2 friendlies (exhibition matchs) where fans would get a ticket to watch both games. They might do it as a novelty to show off.
 

aliyid

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The only time nfl and football might be played on the same day there would be 2 friendlies (exhibition matchs) where fans would get a ticket to watch both games. They might do it as a novelty to show off.
Now that would be awesome and could work quite well.

I know I’d def buy a ticket (and be one of the losers that stays in my seat just to watch the pitch changing over ? )
 

worcestersauce

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To my mind 1230 and 130 kick off times against Newcastle and Leic indicate they are ready to open in February. They would have wanted earlier kick off and daylight kick off times to deal with any issues.

Fingers x’d !
And both scheduled for Sky so whilst we can't know for definite we can be pretty confident that people that ought to know are more or less certain.
 

Yid121

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Few questions:

Anyone know how the redeveloped WHL station is coming along and what the timeframe is/when it will be ready?

And where did Levy squeeze in those extra seats in the stadium and would there be a possibility to squeeze in more?

The fact we're selling out 51,000 after a few days on general sale at Wembley against Wolves is making me think we'll need more seats/tickets won't be easy to come by! Particularly when waves of fans don't like Wembley
 

Goldman

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Few questions:

Anyone know how the redeveloped WHL station is coming along and what the timeframe is/when it will be ready?

Aug 2019 is the aim I believe.

Looked like the foundations were still being worked on when I went to the familiarisation event.
 

Yid121

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Aug 2019 is the aim I believe.

Looked like the foundations were still being worked on when I went to the familiarisation event.
Are any of the new stair entry/exits likely to be in place before? Think this was mentioned previously
 

coys200

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I think we could have gone to 67k and probably sold out most PL games. Last season I think our lowest was about 55k and most of the lower end games were 60-65k. It’s hard to see how they could fit in extra seats without actual construction work.
 

Lilbaz

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I think we could have gone to 67k and probably sold out most PL games. Last season I think our lowest was about 55k and most of the lower end games were 60-65k. It’s hard to see how they could fit in extra seats without actual construction work.

At the end of the day filling out the stadium is only a small part of the reason for the capcity of the stadium. Major part was that i don't think we would have got planning permission for a 67k stadium. Also when we were applying for permission did we really think we needed 67k?
 

Spurs 1961

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I think we could have gone to 67k and probably sold out most PL games. Last season I think our lowest was about 55k and most of the lower end games were 60-65k. It’s hard to see how they could fit in extra seats without actual construction work.

Maybe but Wembley draws a lot of tourists because it's the famous national stadium so it's easier to sell tickets to non fans
 

davidmatzdorf

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I think we could have gone to 67k and probably sold out most PL games. Last season I think our lowest was about 55k and most of the lower end games were 60-65k. It’s hard to see how they could fit in extra seats without actual construction work.
At the end of the day filling out the stadium is only a small part of the reason for the capcity of the stadium. Major part was that i don't think we would have got planning permission for a 67k stadium. Also when we were applying for permission did we really think we needed 67k?

One of the main limiting factors for the capacity was not the physical accommodation of seats, it was demonstrating that 60k+ people could be safely got in and out of the neighbourhood. That is also one of the main reasons for the multiple strategies to attract people to arrive early and tempt them to stay late: to stagger arrivals and departures, so the transport infrastructure can cope.
 
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