New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Mr-T]

NORTH LONDON DEVELOPMENT .....Eek

Its the NPD - Northumberland Park Development.

 

[Hoowl]

Its the NPD - Northumberland Park Development.

NDP

Northumberland Development Project.

 

[andyw362]

 

[felmani26]

Even then that's one too many Andy!

 

[StartingPrice]

We were fairly irrelevant to the Arse and there supporters then, I want Spurs to be the best team in the country, in real time, not in my head.

I don't believe that for one second.
Any real ArseScum fan who has said that was saying as a means of having a dig at us for our relative lack of success. In their heads games against United, etc. might be massive title clinching games, but in their hearts the NLD will always be the most emotive games of the season.

got to love Wet Spam images.. they seem to have forgotton to add the track..

The picture of the players looks like a scan from a 1930s 'Ray-of-the-Rovers' style comic.

I'd give it 6 months and the Dildo Bruthas will be scratting over the roof looking for bits of lead, while singing "any ol', any ol', any any ol' iron":duh:

 

[drthfc]

Mate I can see Spurs in Tottenham really matters to you, especially as you've lived in the area your whole life, but if you take those blue and white tinted specs off for a moment, you'll see the world looks slightly different to the one you imagine it is.

First of all, I don't know if you've ever been to your average market town or even mid sized shopping centre? If you have you'll know that in each town centre there's often multiple branches of the same shop within a couple of hundred yards of each other.

We're not talking Bluewater or Westfield here either, just a decent shopping centre with a supermarket, and the normal smattering of high-street retailers and a carpark.

Alongside that you'll have a few hundred flats, meaning a thousand or so residents on one of outer London's main spoke roads towards inner London.

All in all an attractive development opportunity. Particularly within a borough full of politicians keen to bend over backwards to enable anything which fills the gap losing the club will have left behind.

Retail stores despite what many think are very difficult to obtain planning permission for! There is a permission secured on the site for this type of use, albeit with other uses. It would make it, or certainly a part of the site desirable to a retailer such as Sainsbury and would make any new application easier to secure.

I don't know anything about the existing Sainsbury with the exception of I've walked past it a few times over the years? Stores often have a twenty year lifespan, and this store certainly looks in that age bracket, if not older?! Food retailers typically only rebuild and replace if they can double the offer or at least get close if they can. The NPD plans appear to do this? So I would think that there may be a desire for a new retailer store to do all of the above whilst developing their current site?

I guess the rest of the site, with two train stations and a tube within (!) walking distance would be desirable to a residential developer?

 

[Mr-T]

NDP

Northumberland Development Project.

Yep - thats the one!

 

[sloth]

The NDP plan which got planning permission includes a new Sainsbury's superstore already.

The council will also be desperate to encourage any inward investment which fills the vacuum of us leaving.

My original post was simply in answer to the idea that some were propagating that our departure would leave a barren wasteland in the centre of Tottenham which developers wouldn't want and even if they did then the council would then play silly buggers over granting planing permission for its redevelopment.

Developers will want it more without than with the stadium imo. Over the mid and longer term the area will thrive without a stadium in a way it probably wouldn't with one.

The council care because elections happen in the near term. They can't wait for the benefits of development to filter through.

The other problem for them is that it puts a hole in the carefully laid plans. Their original plan was to leave Tottenham to us to spruce up. We'd have to pay road improvement and transport costs, they would be free to concentrate on their LIP (http://www.haringey.gov.uk/final_draft_lip_document.pdf) which concentrates transport infrastructure improvements on the Tottenham Hale development scheme and sees Tottenham designated a low priority regeneration area with a focus on encouraging walking, reducing emissions and reducing transport (public and private) to hit their targets and in compensation for the increased transport at Tottenham Hale.

They never had any intention of helping us (other than with getting the planning past), because Tottenham isn't their focus, Tottenham Hale is. To add insult to injury they also thought they could stick us for a bit of money towards that too.

Unlucky for them we could be leaving and now they'll finally have to shift priorities, come up with a credible plan for Tottenham High Road which means diverting some of their focus from Tottenham Hale. They wouldn't do it while we were there, but they'll sure as hell have to if we're not.

 

[sloth]

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/olympic-stadium-specials/who-will-takeover

Massive 13% over-round but the money's been persuaded somewhat by Levy's campaign, we've steamed in to 2.6, with West Ham drifting to 2.3 and "neither" now the outsider at 3.

Doesn't mean anything towards the outcome, Skybet are just trying to balance their books after presumably punters thought they had us too long before. There'll probably even be a bit of over adjustment in there. Even so looks like we've done ok in the PR battle this week, for whatever that's worth.

 

[drthfc]

The NDP plan which got planning permission includes a new Sainsbury's superstore already.

My original post was simply in answer to the idea that some were propagating that our departure would leave a barren wasteland in the centre of Tottenham which developers wouldn't want and even if they did then the council would then play silly buggers over granting planing permission for its redevelopment

Yes I'm in agreement with you?

 

[ethanedwards]

Yes I'm in agreement with you?

Rumours starting to circulate that Newham council/mayor want a Super casino at the site.

 

[ethanedwards]

The only reason the dildo Daves took over at West Ham was to get the OS and sell for a profit. Neither calculated that they would be in this position, flirting with relgation and facing up against a strong bid from us. If they do not get the OS I wonder what they will do

Do you think that a consortium of Malayan business men connected to the gambling industry would be suitable owners of a Premier League club.

 

[Azazello]

Do you think that a consortium of Malayan business men connected to the gambling industry would be suitable owners of a Premier League club.

The PL doesn't care as long as they've got cash and aren't obviously criminal.

 

[SpurSince57]

Retail stores despite what many think are very difficult to obtain planning permission for! There is a permission secured on the site for this type of use, albeit with other uses. It would make it, or certainly a part of the site desirable to a retailer such as Sainsbury and would make any new application easier to secure.

I don't know anything about the existing Sainsbury with the exception of I've walked past it a few times over the years? Stores often have a twenty year lifespan, and this store certainly looks in that age bracket, if not older?! Food retailers typically only rebuild and replace if they can double the offer or at least get close if they can. The NPD plans appear to do this? So I would think that there may be a desire for a new retailer store to do all of the above whilst developing their current site?

I guess the rest of the site, with two train stations and a tube within (!) walking distance would be desirable to a residential developer?

Yes, that's correct. It opened in the early 80s, at which time it seemed really big. (The previous Tottenham Sainsbury's was roughly where the Aldi and the neighbouring gym now stand.) The Seven Sisters Tesco opened a little later.

Whether Sainsbury's will want to go ahead if Levy takes Spurs to Stratford is open to question. The plan was for the existing Sainsbury's site to be jointly developed for housing by Spurs and the supermarket. Sainsbury's may, however, say, 'Oh, stuff it' and continue with the current store.

 

[seany]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12412739

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

BBC Reporting the Spammers have won it:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12412739

West Ham have won the battle for the 2012 stadium, BBC London has learned.
Olympic Park Legacy Company (OPLC) executives have decided the offer from the club is a better solution than the rival bid from Tottenham.
The OPLC board will be asked to support the view at a meeting on Friday, when it is expected to confirm West Ham as its preferred bidder.
The government and London's mayor, Boris Johnson, will then take a final decision in the coming weeks.
It would be a surprise if ministers and the mayor overturn OPLC executives, who have spent the last few months discussing the various plans with both clubs in detail.
West Ham are happy for the athletics track to be kept in the stadium and for the venue to be used for a variety of sports and concerts.
Continue reading the main story London 2012 - Begin your journey here

• Sport, news and more 2012 information

• BBC London 2012
• Adrian Warner's blog: West Ham win

Tottenham's plans were to dismantle the stadium in Stratford and build a new football ground in its place.
The Spurs proposal has faced huge criticism from the athletics world, MPs and the public.
A recent BBC London poll suggested 81% of Londoners were against the proposals to rip up the athletics track.
The ComRes phone poll, carried out between 21 and 23 January, also suggested 72% of people in London wanted West Ham to get the stadium, with only 13% supporting Tottenham.
Ministers and the mayor are understood to be well aware that the Tottenham option would have been a "hard sell" to taxpayers.

 

[Wsussexspur]

What happens now?

 

[Hoowl]

Seems like its whams.

 

[kishman]

Hopefully sometime this week or next week we find out if the NDP is out of the equation. If it is, Levy needs to give answers.

 

[mpickard2087]

Well at least that ends the Stratford issue for us.

I really really hope that West Ham and UK athletics fail with this, I really do not know which one suffers greater delusions of grandeur.