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Mustard

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Nov 14, 2012
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Preferably obtain your background music here:

http://davidmatzdorf.bandcamp.com/album/turn-to-gold


I will say I was surprised. There was one song that was really good. It was the first song I just picked. It was really laid back and cool.

You have a voice that would get you to band camp. Maybe need to work on a back story though.

In all seriousness though. Do you think they are into building flats before the stadia?
 

Lilbaz

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I know we are all excited by this but history says this season is our only chance of glory for about 7 to 10 years.

Once we start building we will be in limbo. Even the scum struggled last time and that was with the best handover ever.

A friendly local and national government actively helping them didn't even allow the team win anything. Even the last time Woolwich moved to North London it took them 17 years to win anything and that was with transport infrastructure built by the govt of the day that makes cross rail look like Boris Island.

Maybe because it's our true home we will skew the Jonah like manu did.

I hope so.

Not sure why this should be the case? Is it because we will have little in transfer funds? Over the last 5 years our net spend on transfers has been zero. Arsenal didn't spend money after building their stadium, but this wasn't because they didn't have any. Man Utd/Chelsea/Newcastle didn't show drop in form when upgrading their stadiums.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Just the one new stadium please. ;-)

So anyway, naming rights. What's it going to be?
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With Spurs we always seem to be on to a winner (stadium) and then something comes up and knocks us back down again...so it wouldn't surprise me if we had naming rights agreed with companies similar to these....
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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I will say I was surprised. There was one song that was really good. It was the first song I just picked. It was really laid back and cool.

You have a voice that would get you to band camp. Maybe need to work on a back story though.

Thanks. If I could do promotion and marketing as well as I do music, I wouldn't have to work in housing development. Intrigued to know which song...

In all seriousness though. Do you think they are into building flats before the stadia?

The residential part of the NDP is all in Phase 3, along with the hotel (which may or may not be included, which I think will depend on the market at the time and whether a hotel operator can be attracted). Phase 3 hasn't got detailed planning consent yet. It was approved in outline, subject to a further application. One reason is probably because THFC didn't want to set in stone the exact ccontents of the development phase that is going to help pay for the rest - they want to be able to tailor it to market conditions at the right time. So the stadium and its associated shops, along with refurbishing the 4 historic buildings, come before the housing. I'm not sure whether the big piazza at the southern end of the stadium is part of Phase 2 or Phase 3 - I suspect the former, because I think it is needed for emergency egress from the stadium itself.
 

Spursidol

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Sep 15, 2007
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I know we are all excited by this but history says this season is our only chance of glory for about 7 to 10 years.

Once we start building we will be in limbo. Even the scum struggled last time and that was with the best handover ever.

A friendly local and national government actively helping them didn't even allow the team win anything. Even the last time Woolwich moved to North London it took them 17 years to win anything and that was with transport infrastructure built by the govt of the day that makes cross rail look like Boris Island.

Maybe because it's our true home we will skew the Jonah like manu did.

I hope so.

Not quite right re Arsenal though. They got a combined naming rights and shirt deal which was pretty low - stripping out the shirt sponsorship implied the naming rights deal was about £5m pa, so much of the stadium was funded by bank loans which meant that for the first say 10 years much of the cash generated by the club went into repaying te stadium debt rather than being available to fund players.

DL by all accounts has been searching for the largest stadium naming rights deal that he can get - and if he gets say £15m pa for 20 years, that would pay off a bank loan of £200m+ plus interest, leaving any further borrowing at a relatively low level and funded frrom increased gate money. So we would probably have a small increase in transfer funds available from the nexw stadium within a few years - although like anyone buying a bigger new home we might have a couple of years where we need to be a bit frugal.

So overall I'd suggest we are likely to be better off than Arsenal were when they built their stadium
 

Spursidol

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Any idea how log Archway will have until they move out?

I'd suggest they might be given 3 - 6 months - but as David has said its unlikely we'd actually need their site for 9 - 12 months so it shouldn't create more delays if the cPO is enforced.

Also I'd imagine Haringay will offer them several potential sites/factories so that they have somewhere relatively close to move into - 500WHL might still be available for example
 

Spursidol

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Could be less if the changes to the stadium design are minor enough not to require a revised planning consent and if the tender process goes smoothly and swiftly.

I'd have thought Harringay could give 3 months notice - and if they had a reasonable new site available then Archway could move faster.

But if Archway try to be choosy about their new premises it could get messy.

But whilst I'd agree that Spur could start things earlier than 9-12 months, I guess that Spurs could work on other parts of the site before dealing with the Archway site (which is a pretty small part of the overall Stadium footprint) leaving the Archway site to be dealt with in tyhe 9-12 months period to avoid any publicity problems (picture Peter Josif sitting i front of the bulldozer etc)
 
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