New Stadium Details And Discussions

[tottenmal]

BBC news are confirming it.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31873885

"A business standing in the way of Tottenham Hotspur's £400m stadium development has decided not to appeal against a High Court ruling that will see it forced out.

Archway Sheet Metal Works, in Paxton Road, Tottenham, north London, had asked a judge to quash a compulsory purchase order.

But the High Court upheld the Haringey Council order in February.

The deadline has passed for the firm to take the case to the Court of Appeal.

Spurs can therefore press ahead with plans to build a new 56,000 capacity stadium.

Solicitors for the Josif family, owners of the business that produces items for the catering and hospitality industry, have confirmed they will not be appealing.

In November, a fire gutted the Archway premises, located yards from the White Hart Lane. The cause of the blaze is still not known, but police were treating it as suspicious."

 

[Tucker]

Good news. Can't blame a guy for being a pessimistic Spurs fan

 

[brasil_spur]

so assuming that no appeal is made today and this was the final deadline, can someone explain what the process now is in terms of knocking down AS and getting on with it.

 

[spursfan77]

Let's see if the club respond with a statement now the bbc have reported this. Until they do I'm going to hold fire on celebrating.

 

[spursfan77]

@archwaysm: ARCHWAY SHEET METAL WORKS LIMITED & TRUSTEES OF THE JOSIF FAMILY

Judicial proceedings to challenge the... http://t.co/2CcWfU0l3E

 

[SHaRD]

so assuming that no appeal is made today and this was the final deadline, can someone explain what the process now is in terms of knocking down AS and getting on with it.

Archway will have received a notice to vacate shortly after 20 February. It will have maybe given them 6-8 weeks.

When that time is up, the site gets passed to Haringey.

Haringey will then sell the site to us.

The buildings will then be demolished asap, principally to prevent inheriting having to pay business rates on them

The site might even be cleared by our last home match

 

[thinktank]

@archwaysm: ARCHWAY SHEET METAL WORKS LIMITED & TRUSTEES OF THE JOSIF FAMILY

Judicial proceedings to challenge the... http://t.co/2CcWfU0l3E

We have always been willing to negotiate with the club on a reasonable and proper basis.

Ahahahaha.

 

[spursfan77]

@SpursOfficial: The Club has received confirmation that Archway are not proposing to appeal to the Court of Appeal. Statement to follow shortly.

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news...update-130315/

The Club has received confirmation that Archway Steel will not be applying to the Court of Appeal for permission to appeal the High Court's decision last month to refuse their legal challenge of the Compulsory Purchase Order.

The next step will be to vest the land in Haringey Council's ownership and to agree the compensation amount payable to Archway.

We shall also continue to seek to reach an agreement with Archway by private treaty.
We shall provide a further update as matters progress.

 

[L-man]

Hmmmm, part of me believes we're still a long way off. I don't like the wording of those middle two sentences

 

[spursfan77]

Ahahahaha.

Sounds like they think they can negotiate further as well. All the negotiations would have take place before the CPO could have been issued. They'll just get market value. Not sure who carries out the valuation of that. I suspect it's an independent expert and then archway just have to go with that. They can't negotiate that value.

Edit: just seen the club's response. I didn't think it worked like that.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news...update-130315/

The Club has received confirmation that Archway Steel will not be applying to the Court of Appeal for permission to appeal the High Court's decision last month to refuse their legal challenge of the Compulsory Purchase Order.

The next step will be to vest the land in Haringey Council's ownership and to agree the compensation amount payable to Archway.

We shall also continue to seek to reach an agreement with Archway by private treaty.
We shall provide a further update as matters progress.

@davidmatzdorf - Translation?

 

[L.A. Yiddo]

@davidmatzdorf - Translation?

The CPO was brought about by the council. I assume the ownership of the land will be transferred to Haringey and then at a latter date to THFC once the compensation has been agreed.

 

[spursfan77]

Here's what happens next. It's point 3.81 in the document. I can't copy and paste it for some reason.

https://www.gov.uk/g...1487/147639.pdf

 

[L-man]

Here's what happens next. It's point 3.81 in the document. I can't copy and paste it for some reason.

https://www.gov.uk/g...1487/147639.pdf

We have all the power now, just depends on how much Archway are willing to accept it seems

 

[essex_spur]

3.81 Once the CPO has been confirmed, the acquiring authority may continue in their negotiations to acquire the land by agreement without the need to implement their powers. The authority will, of course, do so in the knowledge that if negotiations prove unsuccessful, they can secure ownership of the land by going down a compulsory purchase route.

So either spurs agree a deal direct with ASM, or the CPO happens.

 

[Stoof]

There are many hidden rivers in London, in culverts beneath streets: the Fleet, the Bourne, the Wandle and many others. Increasingly, there are moves to open them up again, only partly for amenity reasons. Increased flood risk from extreme rain events and rising sea levels over the next few decades will make it desirable for these tributaries of the Thames to be exposed and furnished with permeable banks, such as reedbeds, to provide places for storm runoff to collect and be slowed down before it discharges into the Thames. Exposing the Moselle/Muswell may be part of this, I don't know. A stretch of the Wandle in South London has already been adapted in this manner and there is a plan to do something similar with the Ravensbourne in Lewisham.

The other components in sustainable flood management would be green roofs (such as I have on my house) and linear rain-gardens, either in the centre of wider roads or along the pavements.

But no, Thames Water is planning an old-fashioned "super-sewer" instead, at billions of pounds in cost. it won't work. It just postpones the problem.

I spent more hours than I care to remember looking for records of the River Fleet and plotting it on various plans due to ancient documents referring to land bounded by the River Fleet.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news...update-130315/

The Club has received confirmation that Archway Steel will not be applying to the Court of Appeal for permission to appeal the High Court's decision last month to refuse their legal challenge of the Compulsory Purchase Order.

The next step will be to vest the land in Haringey Council's ownership (1) and to agree the compensation amount payable to Archway. (2)

We shall also continue to seek to reach an agreement with Archway by private treaty. (2)

We shall provide a further update as matters progress.

This is my not-particularly-experienced analysis. Feel free to pull apart:

(2) should not affect (1). CPO will vest any land in Council's name (and then will transfer it to the DevCo/PropCo which is Tottenham Properties or whatever it's called) - compensation can come later, but it shouldn't hold up the actual registration of land in the Council's name.

(3) is in the interest of both parties. Getting the CPO compensation may take a lot longer than Archway doing a deal directly with Spurs (i.e., us just buying the land off them). This benefits them in that they get money quicker (although I would have thought not as much) and we get the land into the PropCo straight away.

I think.

 

[avonspurs]

Settle with them for a packet of HobNobs and a kick up the arse!

 

[yiddo23]

We have all the power now, just depends on how much Archway are willing to accept it seems

Yes....Poooweer

 

[mpickard2087]

I said a while back that even if we got the CPO that for PR reasons we may go back to Archway with one final, generous (considering the CPO/legal rulings) offer. If they don't take it then at least the club has been seen to do everything it can to be reasonable and negotiate with them.