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Wine Gum

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Tottenham Hotspurs' secret plans for White Hart Lane mega stadium
24 October, 2013 | By Richard Waite


Populous, designers of the London Olympic Stadium, are drawing up multi-use proposals for a Tottenham Hotspur stadium that could also host American NFL games



2012 Olympic Stadium architect Populous has drawn up top secret plans for a mega-venue at White Hart Lane, home of Spurs.

Tottenham Hotspur Football Club brought the practice in last month to re-think architect KSS’s already-consented £400 million, 56,000-seat stadium scheme for the north London site.

It is rumoured that new, top secret plans for the site include a retractable natural turf pitch, allowing the arena to be opened up for uses other than football – similar to that at the Arizona Cardinals’ home stadium in Phoenix, which was also jointly designed by Populous together with Eisenman Architects(pictured). The AJ believes the club wants to entice the National Football League to host American Football games in the stadium.

It is unclear how the proposals, which are understood to be taller than the existing stadium, would impact on the redevelopment of the area around the ground, which has been earmarked for 285 homes and a wider commercial development.

However the creation of a 75x100m glazed structure to house the retracted pitch south of the ground – thought to be part of Populous’s proposal – would mean the number of planned homes could shrink.

A spokesman for the club would not comment on the rumours, insisting Populous had only been formally appointed to ‘take forward the interior design for the fit-out of the stadium’ and to ‘conduct a peer review of the stadium design’.

He added: ‘[The club] has always seen the new stadium as being at the heart of the regeneration of the area and this process can be enhanced through future-proofing the design, as well as increasing the functionality of the stadium.

‘The club intends to continue to examine all options as it refines its plans.’

The first images of plans to revamp Spurs’ home date back to 2008. The club has worked on numerous options for the area around the ground as part of its Northumberland Development Project – initially using Make Architects (AJ 01.10.10).

In 2011 Spurs also looked at moving to the Olympic Stadium, which it intended to rebuild.

Meanwhile, it has emerged that Allies and Morrison has been appointed by Stanhope to draw up a masterplan for the Western side of Tottenham High Road, close to the ground.

The proposals move forward the wider masterplan for the riot-hit borough drafted by Arup for Haringey Borough Council and property developer Stuart Lipton.

Lipton was sceptical about the stadium rumours, saying that it would be hard to build much bigger, given the plot size and the Sainsbury’s supermarket that is currently under construction next door.

Populous declined to comment.
 

Hoopspur

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This biggest impact on that would be this giant glazed structure to house the alternative pitch which doesn't seem to be happening from what I've seen, so I kind of take the rest with a slight pinch for now. Also the penultimate paragraph kind of questions those suggestions even back then.

"However the creation of a 75x100m glazed structure to house the retracted pitch south of the ground – thought to be part of Populous’s proposal – would mean the number of planned homes could shrink".
 

Hoopspur

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I posted this in the other thread also....


Prof (COYS) posted this From Galahad (their version of The Goat?):

"DL's interest in developing a commercial relationship between THFC and the NFL is actively being explored."
 

Lilbaz

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They did turn the pitch into a dog's dinner. So no, we didn't lose our soul. We did lose an awful lot of football matches though.

Since (if these rumours are even true) we will have retractable pitch. This would not be an issue. Also the reason we lost games had very little to do with American Football and very much to do with the fact we were shit.
 

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If there is a retractable pitch, whereabouts would it be stored outside the new stadium?
 

Lilbaz

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If there is a retractable pitch, whereabouts would it be stored outside the new stadium?

Load it in a truck and drive it to Hotspur way. Or keep it under the stands with artificial lighting.
 

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Load it in a truck and drive it to Hotspur way. Or keep it under the stands with artificial lighting.

I guess the pitch will have to be split into smaller sections to fit under the stands?
 

robbiedee

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I reckon they'll put the NFL pitch on a big roller just outside the stadium...a bit like the swimming pool covers you see...
 

ohwhenthespurs

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The roll-out pitch thing just doesn't make sense, does it? The new stadium is hemmed in on all sides by buildings, and we've just announced plans for further development of the basement level, so how can a pitch 'slide under the stands'? All sounds a bit fanciful to me, although I'm no architect.
 

Lighty64

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didn't they have a retractable pitch built at one of the German stadiums when they held the world cup
 

L.A. Yiddo

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didn't they have a retractable pitch built at one of the German stadiums when they held the world cup

Yep Schalke's Veltins Arena in Gelsenkirchen has one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veltins-Arena

Like the Sapporo Dome in Japan, the University of Phoenix Stadium in the U.S. state of Arizona and the Gelredome in the Netherlands, the Veltins-Arena features a slide out pitch. Supported by 11,400 t substructure, the playing field can be moved in and out of the stadium within 4 hours. This has several advantages:
    • The grass playing surface can grow under normal outside conditions without suffering from a lack of circulation and light as in other arenas.
    • The football pitch is not damaged during indoor events such as concerts.
    • The floor of the multi-functional hall can be converted and retro-fitted within a short amount of time.
    • The outside area that is not occupied by the field can be used as parking facilities for buses during football matches.
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without the pitch inside

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