New Stadium Details And Discussions

[penfold_99]

Doesn't mean that we would ask for a 10 year shirt sponsor. What if it was stadium and shirt for 5 years?

A shorter time frame would be better but a combined stadium and shirt sponsor doesn't give great value.

If levy pulls out a 30m-50m a year for a combined deal I stand corrected, but if we get 20m-25m it would be a bad deal given levy got 20m for dual shirt sponsor deal.

 

[Lilbaz]

A shorter time frame would be better but a combined stadium and shirt sponsor doesn't give great value.

If levy pulls out a 30m-50m a year for a combined deal I stand corrected, but if we get 20m-25m it would be a bad deal given levy got 20m for dual shirt sponsor deal.

It didn't give Arsenal great value. We'll have to see what value Levy can negotiate. I agree £20m would not be enough.

 

[Bobbyh99]

Looking at those photos and assuming the Kop stand is going to be the White House and Sainsbury's end then it's going to be a steep stand. There doesn't appear to be a lot of room from the boundary to the inside shape that I think is the pitch. And it's no wider than the existing stadium stands by the look of it,

I think the Kop will be in the South not North! I could be wrong though,?

 

[longtimespur]

I think the Kop will be in the South not North! I could be wrong though,?

Cheers buddy. I'm never sure seeing proposed plans etc.

 

[Phischy]

Cheers buddy. I'm never sure seeing proposed plans etc.

Yeah, to my knowledge, it's always been proposed to be at what we know as the Park Lane end. Not to say that won't change though, they have only ever guaranteed there would be one, not its location. Based on the plans and the different stadium shape at that end, I suspect that it will remain at that end though.

 

[Lilbaz]

Yeah, to my knowledge, it's always been proposed to be at what we know as the Park Lane end. Not to say that won't change though, they have only ever guaranteed there would be one, not its location. Based on the plans and the different stadium shape at that end, I suspect that it will remain at that end though.

It makes sense as the park lane is where most of the noise is generated.

 

[worcestersauce]

It makes sense as the park lane is where most of the noise is generated.

You're welcome, we do our best

 

[fridgemagnet]

Thinking aloud here and i've been on the sherry since 7am so forgive me if you dislike any of this.

There should be a section or an 1886 area or areas with discounted prices to encourage younger fans to go.
Maybe have two areas one each side or opposite corners (so maintaining line of sight with the other section) of the stadium or both corners of the "kop" perhaps to drag/keep the atmos up.

Also don't hate me for thinking it but if we move out to concrete cow land for a season and there's a season ticket amnesty it could be a blessing in breaking up the negative Nancies' that have sat next to each other for four decades and all they do is bitch and moan every home game.
If they give up season ticket for a year say ok that's fine but when the new stadium opens you aren't guaranteed to be seated with members X,Y, Z.

It might be unpopular but could help in the long run. Then again I am best part of two thirds pissed now so... dons flak jacket, tin pot hat.

 

[worcestersauce]

Thinking aloud here and i've been on the sherry since 7am so forgive me if you dislike any of this.

There should be a section or an 1886 area or areas with discounted prices to encourage younger fans to go.
Maybe have two areas one each side or opposite corners (so maintaining line of sight with the other section) of the stadium or both corners of the "kop" perhaps to drag/keep the atmos up.

Also don't hate me for thinking it but if we move out to concrete cow land for a season and there's a season ticket amnesty it could be a blessing in breaking up the negative Nancies' that have sat next to each other for four decades and all they do is bitch and moan every home game.
If they give up season ticket for a year say ok that's fine but when the new stadium opens you aren't guaranteed to be seated with members X,Y, Z.

It might be unpopular but could help in the long run. Then again I am best part of two thirds pissed now so... dons flak jacket, tin pot hat.

Wouldn't bother me, X is always kissing people, Y is always asking what happened and Z is alseep half the time.

 

[Lilbaz]

Wouldn't bother me, X is always kissing people, Y is always asking what happened and Z is alseep half the time.

I'm thinking you're x and Y is pressing charges?

 

[Langers]

Just to reiterate what someone mentioned earlier in the thread. I went on the stadium tour yesterday and the tour guides are saying the club are working towards a 61,000 capacity to commemorate the double winning side. Although when pressed about the statement she did say it was only a target but the club were doing everything in their power to achieve the target.

 

[Spursidol]

DL must have learned that its a bad idea. They were getting 10m a year for 10 years, they renewed at 30m for 5 years. That would work out at £16.6 million over 15 years. We are getting about that from AIA now just for shirt sponsorship.

Think the neighbours did a bad deal with the Emirates - but at least partly as this was before brand values really rocketted.

Agreed we are getting about £15m pa for shirt sponsorship. so ideally want closer to £30m+ on a 20 year deal for the combined deal - but with shirt sponsorship deals being 3-5 year deals and stadium sponsorship deals more like 10 - 20 years, think Levy needs to have some sort of market value related escalation clause for the shirt sponsorship or he'll fall into the same trap as our neighbours who missed out on ballooning shirt sponsorship values. Yet we will want a stable income stream for the stadium naming rights deal to satisfy the bankers funding the stadium build and their repayments over that 10 - 20 year period. Could be a difficult trick to pull off

 

[ERO]

Just to reiterate what someone mentioned earlier in the thread. I went on the stadium tour yesterday and the tour guides are saying the club are working towards a 61,000 capacity to commemorate the double winning side. Although when pressed about the statement she did say it was only a target but the club were doing everything in their power to achieve the target.

This project is worth hundred of millions, and is a massive determinant in the club's future - financially and on the pitch. Its capacity will be what gives the highest expected profitabilty within the sets of constraints. This number may very well be 61 000, and even be communicated as a gesture to the 61 team, but Levy won't assume extra risk or lose expected profit on a gimmick for such a massive project. (Nor would he tell the notoriously blabbering tour guides.)

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Somebody posted this on SkyScraper City, as a possible explanation about what 'could' be happening with our stadium, and a possible explanation about the 3 sections of piling, that have created discussion on this part of the site...........



Okay. I did take a look - this is one page in that thread, if you scroll down the photos give some sense of the scale of what Levy is doing: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...459203&page=78

Showing retractable pitch:

This is an interesting shot - does it explain the 'three sections' conclusion from the piling drawings ....

I have no idea whether this post will be of any use, but hopefully people like David Matzdorf & Lilbaz etc, the more knowledgeable when it comes to such things, can say whether they may be pointers to what we may be doing with our own stadium.

 

[thfc1973]

kinda worried that some of the stakeholders in the new stadium amendment planning permissions are saying 'we have no objections based on the stated stadium capacity of 56k..."
I'm wondering if we will encounter impossible obstacles in the future if we do actually ever attempt to increase the capacity, mainly due to the fact that everything we have submitted planning permission-wise is based on a capacity of 56k.

 

[Blake Griffin]

David Migriauli: Mr. Levy will new stadium exterior design look like the one we've seen or it's yet to be decided?
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Tottenham Hotspur Daniel: We have updated elements and we shall be making planning applications for these and running that in parallel with the works continuing on the ground.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

David Migriauli: Mr. Levy will new stadium exterior design look like the one we've seen or it's yet to be decided?
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Tottenham Hotspur Daniel: We have updated elements and we shall be making planning applications for these and running that in parallel with the works continuing on the ground.

Cheers fella . This was posted on SkyScraper City, it goes along with what you've posted from twitter.........


Taken from the Mauricio Pottentino & Daniel Levy questions on facebook...

Mr. Levy will new stadium exterior design look like the one we've seen or it's yet to be decided?

Daniel: We have updated elements and we shall be making planning applications for these and running that in parallel with the works continuing on the ground.

What happened to the plan to have us remain in a partially-built White Hart Lane during the Northumberland Development project?

Daniel: Construction risk and timing - potential contractors raised concerns and we do not want to add risks that could delay the opening. And the delay caused by the CPO means we need to concentrate even further on the build time programme - it's the same as when you renovate a house, you can always do it quicker if you're not living in it at the same time.

 

[Deeyal]

We keep hearing about these updated plans. Would be good to know when they are likely to see the light of day. If they have been updated, I wonder why the club has not submitted the planning application yet? Or does this suggest that they haven't finished tweaking elements yet.

 

[pc_1982]

From Skyscrapercity..

I got hold of some information, again like last time I posted a bit of info, It's not come from the top or made up, just conversation from within. I don't know if Chinese whispers have caused some of it be to inaccurate.

First thing is if you recall a meeting that Spurs had with the supporters trust and it was mentioned the time scale of the project. Two more seasons at WHL and one year away. It would mean that quite possibly there would be not only no mega store at WHL but no store at all. So based on the above informations that two more years that mega store will be there. But I heard that it's got a year until it shuts.

Now it could be that the relayed information was misunderstood and it was confused between Spurs leaving WHL for one year & moving in one year.

The second piece is... There is no shopping mall near MK Dons stadium so four so called "Pop up stores" would exist for match days (I think) around the area of Milton Keynes.

Again I don't know if this is fact because the location is decided or there was research done on all areas of a possible relocation.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

We keep hearing about these updated plans. Would be good to know when they are likely to see the light of day. If they have been updated, I wonder why the club has not submitted the planning application yet? Or does this suggest that they haven't finished tweaking elements yet.

Can't remember where I read it, maybe in the ITK thread, but someone posted a Q&A session that Levy & Pochettinio supposedly held on facebook. Apparently the revised planning application HAS now been submitted, with Levy admitting alterations to the outer shell of the stadium. My guess is we will not see these revised plans until planning permission has been granted by the council. Let's face it, what's the point in the club releasing these revised plans if they're not guaranteed to be given the go-ahead? I don't think we'll have to wait too long for that decision to be made. The council are fully behind the development project, and, thanks to Archway finally being out of the way, there is no longer any obstacles to stop us from going in full steam ahead.

I'll go see if I can find that Facebook update I mentioned