New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Spursidol]

lol, nobody has a bloody clue what is going on do they? Ill wait till it starts to rise out of the ground.

You might need to wait a little while longer - currently we are going underground !

 

[Phischy]

If you're correct then we ain't getting a kop in the south stand, according to that pic. But I could be wrong.

To be honest, I imagine that's just lazy design work. Pictures like that are to give a big picture view of the scheme, contextualised against the local area, minor details like the way the stand is drawn/laid out will just be ignored. I doubt, strongly, that we can take any information on stadium layout from that picture. Especially given that the club have reassured that it will be present. I'd rather a shelf than a kop though... but that's just me!

 

[Zoob32]

The Minnesota Vikings just sold the naming rights for their new stadium. US Bank bought it for $220 million for a 25 year deal, or $8.8 million a year. That would be £5.66 million a year or £141.44 million total.

Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/twinciti...ank-pays-220m-for-vikings-stadium-naming.html

Thought it might interest people on the state of naming rights for the NFL. Other teams in larger markets for higher deals, but $220 million isn't a small amount either.

 

[Spursidol]

The Minnesota Vikings just sold the naming rights for their new stadium. US Bank bought it for $220 million for a 25 year deal, or $8.8 million a year. That would be £5.66 million a year or £141.44 million total.

Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/twinciti...ank-pays-220m-for-vikings-stadium-naming.html

Thought it might interest people on the state of naming rights for the NFL. Other teams in larger markets for higher deals, but $220 million isn't a small amount either.

Interesting but Spurs get about £12m pa for their shirt deal whilst Liverpool get about £20m pa, and Man U off the scale.

So amounts not small but not large either. I'd be hoping for something north of £15m pa (US$ 22m pa) for the stadium naming rights, and if there is a discount by doing a combined shirt and stadium deal, something north of £25m/£30m pa for 15/20 years.

 

[Chanticleer81]

Interesting but Spurs get about £12m pa for their shirt deal whilst Liverpool get about £20m pa, and Man U off the scale.

So amounts not small but not large either. I'd be hoping for something north of £15m pa (US$ 22m pa) for the stadium naming rights, and if there is a discount by doing a combined shirt and stadium deal, something north of £25m/£30m pa for 15/20 years.

Most reports I have seen say the AIA deal is £16 million a year

 

[Spursidol]

Most reports I have seen say the AIA deal is £16 million a year

Thanks, maybe need to increase the numbers we are expecting a tad then

 

[Mister Jez]

Ther is some new info on twatter from @Thenewspursstadium,

@NewSpursStadium's Tweet: https://twitter.com/NewSpursStadium/status/610549795023900672?s=09

 

[RButch]

Ther is some new info on twatter from @Thenewspursstadium, but I haven't worked out how to upload to here, sorry....All good by the way.

This tweet I presume, Interesting.



New Spurs Stadium‏@NewSpursStadium
Councils planning committee have been advised by its planning officers to pass the new basement plans on June 22...

 

[Mister Jez]

Yep, thats the one...

 

[beats1]

The Minnesota Vikings just sold the naming rights for their new stadium. US Bank bought it for $220 million for a 25 year deal, or $8.8 million a year. That would be £5.66 million a year or £141.44 million total.

Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/twinciti...ank-pays-220m-for-vikings-stadium-naming.html

Thought it might interest people on the state of naming rights for the NFL. Other teams in larger markets for higher deals, but $220 million isn't a small amount either.

It depends, for instance:
Derby get £700k a season for their stadium and this was when they were a mid table championship club.

Whilst shirt and naming rights deals include:
Newcastle expected to get £10m for naming rights and a shirt deal before they changed their mind
Arsenal got similar to that amount initially just for their naming rights deal and it was felt it was undervalued. Now they get £30m for shirt and Naming rights
City apparently get £20m but apparently that will sky rocket and they even going to sell the naming rights to a bridge they are about build or some shit

So £5.6m since its worth noting that sponsoring a football stadium for a top team will be bring more exposure, a football stadium will be shown about 8 times a season on average whereas a football stadium a lot more especially one in the PL which will more likely have more games be shown as a networks main game(as opposed to a red button game). As well exposure to europe in the Europa League.

If we do get a NFL team, it will also potentially be home to the only NFL stadium outside of the US as well.

 

[Zoob32]

It depends, for instance:
Derby get £700k a season for their stadium and this was when they were a mid table championship club.

Whilst shirt and naming rights deals include:
Newcastle expected to get £10m for naming rights and a shirt deal before they changed their mind
Arsenal got similar to that amount initially just for their naming rights deal and it was felt it was undervalued. Now they get £30m for shirt and Naming rights
City apparently get £20m but apparently that will sky rocket and they even going to sell the naming rights to a bridge they are about build or some shit

So £5.6m since its worth noting that sponsoring a football stadium for a top team will be bring more exposure, a football stadium will be shown about 8 times a season on average whereas a football stadium a lot more especially one in the PL which will more likely have more games be shown as a networks main game(as opposed to a red button game). As well exposure to europe in the Europa League.

If we do get a NFL team, it will also potentially be home to the only NFL stadium outside of the US as well.

It's also worth mentioning that the two recently built stadiums in New York (Citi Field [New York Mets] and Barclay's Center [Brooklyn Nets & New York Islanders]) both recieved around $20 million a year in naming rights. Minneapolis, while still a large market pales in comparison to New York or London. So my guess would be naming rights for a combined Premier League/NFL stadium would be well above $20 million considering the market the stadium would be in and the two sports.

 

[Spursidol]

Yep, thats the one...

Try reading the posts on the previous page for more complete and accurate info

 

[Lilbaz]

It's also worth mentioning that the two recently built stadiums in New York (Citi Field [New York Mets] and Barclay's Center [Brooklyn Nets & New York Islanders]) both recieved around $20 million a year in naming rights. Minneapolis, while still a large market pales in comparison to New York or London. So my guess would be naming rights for a combined Premier League/NFL stadium would be well above $20 million considering the market the stadium would be in and the two sports.

An nfl franchise in london is probably at least 10 years away. I wouldn't worry.

 

[andyp8080]

presumably if there were plans for a retractable pitch or any significant changes we would be bothering to get the new basement passed for planning? Would we not do it all together?

 

[PMS]

Can someone give me an up to date breakdown of the costs to make our new stadium please?

 

[Phischy]

Can someone give me an up to date breakdown of the costs to make our new stadium please?

Difficult to do as the club can't even answer that question! We are currently in a state where the design and layout is subject to change. The club can change the fit-out and spec at any time dependent on budget and costs and material and labour costs change all the time. The problem with a big building is that a small increase in the cost of steel will hugely impact the cost of the build... this has been an issue with all the delays as costs of materials have fallen, but they are on the rise again. I imagine that the club will agree a fixed cost contract with each contractor they use when they are able to (so for example I imagine that a contract is in place for the piling works, but nothing else). They may do it as a whole with a contractor for the stadium and that firm will then sub-contract, or they may do it with a number of firms in stages. Either way, if the club tell us what the cost of doing this is, it won't be until this is all actually happening. Also bear in mind that costs quoted will vary hugely depending on whether the supporting buildings (the offices/supermarket, shops and flats) are included or excluded. With that in mind, stadium alone could be anything from £200m - £500m and the whole lot could be anything from £400m - £800m. I think the club figures already released suggest that so far we have spent something in the region of £100m on planning, legal and land purchase, together with the building they've already put up, so it's a pretty expensive enterprise and costs will continue to creep with every year that passes and every hiccup encountered.

 

[brasil_spur]

presumably if there were plans for a retractable pitch or any significant changes we would be bothering to get the new basement passed for planning? Would we not do it all together?

I don't buy this whole retractable pitch idea at all.

Firstly if you look at other main retractable pitches such as the Sapporo Dome in Japan or the Veltins Arena in Germany it seems pretty clear that the whole pitch needs to slide out into the open.

Given that on one side of the stadium you will have the High Road and the other Worcester Ave there's no room for the pictch to move sideways. We have the new club offices and Sainsburys buildings at the North end which are already built.

So planning would have to involved the total removal of all the flats to be built at the south end and even then i don't think there would be enough space.

Seems like the retractable pitch has to be total bollocks to me.

More likely we go for artificial pitch IMO if we do a deal with the NFL.

 

[andyp8080]

I don't buy this whole retractable pitch idea at all.

Firstly if you look at other main retractable pitches such as the Sapporo Dome in Japan or the Veltins Arena in Germany it seems pretty clear that the whole pitch needs to slide out into the open.

Given that on one side of the stadium you will have the High Road and the other Worcester Ave there's no room for the pictch to move sideways. We have the new club offices and Sainsburys buildings at the North end which are already built.

So planning would have to involved the total removal of all the flats to be built at the south end and even then i don't think there would be enough space.

Seems like the retractable pitch has to be total bollocks to me.

More likely we go for artificial pitch IMO if we do a deal with the NFL.

one that lays on top of the grass pitch?

 

[talkshowhost86]

I don't buy this whole retractable pitch idea at all.

Firstly if you look at other main retractable pitches such as the Sapporo Dome in Japan or the Veltins Arena in Germany it seems pretty clear that the whole pitch needs to slide out into the open.

Given that on one side of the stadium you will have the High Road and the other Worcester Ave there's no room for the pictch to move sideways. We have the new club offices and Sainsburys buildings at the North end which are already built.

So planning would have to involved the total removal of all the flats to be built at the south end and even then i don't think there would be enough space.

Seems like the retractable pitch has to be total bollocks to me.

More likely we go for artificial pitch IMO if we do a deal with the NFL.

No idea if we'll go for it or not but I don't think it's nearly as much of an issue as you're saying.

It only needs to slide back under one stand, and each stand actually goes back a fair way anyway so wouldn't take a massive amount of space to make sure one stand had enough space under it to fit the pitch.

And that's without considering any other innovative ways that it might be done (two halves under two stands, four quarters under four stands, rolled up and stored behind the bike sheds...that sort of thing).

I'm sure it's not something they'd have investigated if there wasn't the scope to do it.

 

[worcestersauce]

Difficult to do as the club can't even answer that question! We are currently in a state where the design and layout is subject to change. The club can change the fit-out and spec at any time dependent on budget and costs and material and labour costs change all the time. The problem with a big building is that a small increase in the cost of steel will hugely impact the cost of the build... this has been an issue with all the delays as costs of materials have fallen, but they are on the rise again. I imagine that the club will agree a fixed cost contract with each contractor they use when they are able to (so for example I imagine that a contract is in place for the piling works, but nothing else). They may do it as a whole with a contractor for the stadium and that firm will then sub-contract, or they may do it with a number of firms in stages. Either way, if the club tell us what the cost of doing this is, it won't be until this is all actually happening. Also bear in mind that costs quoted will vary hugely depending on whether the supporting buildings (the offices/supermarket, shops and flats) are included or excluded. With that in mind, stadium alone could be anything from £200m - £500m and the whole lot could be anything from £400m - £800m. I think the club figures already released suggest that so far we have spent something in the region of £100m on planning, legal and land purchase, together with the building they've already put up, so it's a pretty expensive enterprise and costs will continue to creep with every year that passes and every hiccup encountered.

So in short, what you are saying is, no!