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CoopsieDeadpool

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Have I simply missed these on here? Posted on SSC on the 20th of this month .............


Some new photos this morning from the NewSpursStadium twitter feed:

Paxton Road 20/06/15

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Formerly Tottenham Square and the West Stand car park 20/06/15

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CoopsieDeadpool

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Bloody hell, did I also miss this? :oops:

A small stadium related note from the minutes of the latest THST meeting, about safe standing:

"PH confirmed that the Rail Seating demonstration has been arranged for Thursday 16 July in the car park outside Lilywhite House with Jon Darch of the Safe Standing Roadshow and the Stadium Project Team at THFC."
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Hi coopsie ...... you've been away a bit?

Not really away, mate, just got lots of other things going on now Jade is as good as qualified to become a social worker (just awaiting certificates & acknowledgement from the grade appraisal committee) . She's already been offered a job, so once those bits we are waiting on have come through, people on here will be pleased to know I'll be on even less frequently again (y)
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Is this also old news?

http://www.haringey.gov.uk/housing-and-planning/tottenham/tottenham-regeneration/high-road-west

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[paste:font size="5"]View the High Road West area timeline (PDF 102KB)
Hundreds of people have responded to the consultation, got involved in workshops and met our planning and design experts, Arup, to help with exciting proposals for the High Road West area during the last two years.

Since we presented three masterplan options in the summer of 2013, the council has used all your valuable feedback to work with Arup on final proposals for the High Road West area.

We’ve also worked with the Love Lane Residents’ Association and their Independent Tenant and Leaseholder Advisor (ITLA) on a Residents’ Charter that sets out the community’s ambitions for regeneration.

Together with Transport for London (TfL) and the Greater London Authority (GLA), we’ve also been looking at how we can make big improvements to White Hart Lane Station.

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High Road West could be a fun, green and safe place to live and work, with a range of modern, high-quality homes that meet the needs of residents and offers more choice to get on the housing ladder.

Families and young people will have first-class facilities to use, with ample green space, plenty of places to relax and spend time, and an interesting mix of shops and businesses that allow residents to do their shopping while providing long-lasting job opportunities for local people.

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A brand new park, Peacock Park, at the heart of a new residential neighbourhood to the north of the High Road, with children’s play space, a free-to-use outdoor gym, as well as green quiet space to enjoy.



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1,200 new high-quality homes, including houses and flats for every secure council tenant on the Love Lane Estate.

A safer, more accessible White Hart Lane Station, with improved train services and a modern entrance to the south, onto a new station forecourt.



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An improved High Road with better pedestrian space, as well as a wider mix of shops and businesses to meet all your weekly shop needs locally.



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Space for start-up businesses to grow, with modern purpose-built units, more help to get on the jobs ladder and support for entrepreneurs.


 

CoopsieDeadpool

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view the Full Masterplan online here (external link)

View the Summary Masterplan (PDF 3MB)
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High Road West Regeneration Proposals - Love Lane Estate Secure Council Tenant Guide (PDF 263KB)

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[paste:font size="5"]High Road West Regeneration Proposals - Business Charter (PDF 213KB)
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[paste:font size="5"]Cabinet 16 December.

In consultation on the proposals, nearly 85 percent of residents living on the Love Lane Estate – and 69 percent of everyone who responded – backed plans for modern homes with a mix of family-sized houses with gardens and maisonettes with private courtyards.

More than three quarters of people who responded backed a revamped White Hart Lane Station, with added support for plans for new business space, access to long-term employment opportunities and a major new public square.

You can read a copy of the full High Road West consultation report (PDF, 2MB) here.

To find out more about the designs, see the consultation and exhibition materials or speak to staff at the Grange Community Hub on White Hart Lane throughout January:

  • Every Tuesday morning between 10am - 12 noon
  • Every Wednesday evening between 6 - 8pm
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Boards 1-4 (PDF 435KB)
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worcestersauce

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Right, having read through this page I'm going to stick a big fat WOW! in here.
Brilliant that this is happening for the area.
 

Lilbaz

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They are unrepresentative of the local community though, very noisy but out of sync with the local residents they claim to speak for as can be seen by the numbers in the posts above.

The same people that were screaming for regeneration of the area a few years ago. Now it is going to effect them, they are up in arms about it. Diddums. They wouldn't give a shit if it was someone across the road.
 

Zoob32

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The same people that were screaming for regeneration of the area a few years ago. Now it is going to effect them, they are up in arms about it. Diddums. They wouldn't give a shit if it was someone across the road.
We have a word to describe those types of people here in the states. We can them NIMBYs. Which stands for "not in my back yard".

For example the twin cities here is trying to expand our light rail system and nimbys who don't even live next to the planned track are coming out in droves with excuses such as "it will be harder to get to the dog park", "my property value is going to go down due to all the low income housing which will be brought in next to the stops".

Just ignore them they don't bring anything to the conversation.
 

Kalim

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We have a word to describe those types of people here in the states. We can them NIMBYs. Which stands for "not in my back yard".

For example the twin cities here is trying to expand our light rail system and nimbys who don't even live next to the planned track are coming out in droves with excuses such as "it will be harder to get to the dog park", "my property value is going to go down due to all the low income housing which will be brought in next to the stops".

Just ignore them they don't bring anything to the conversation.

I would be interested to see what attitude you would take if it were happening in your back yard.
 

Amo

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We have a word to describe those types of people here in the states. We can them NIMBYs. Which stands for "not in my back yard".

For example the twin cities here is trying to expand our light rail system and nimbys who don't even live next to the planned track are coming out in droves with excuses such as "it will be harder to get to the dog park", "my property value is going to go down due to all the low income housing which will be brought in next to the stops".

Just ignore them they don't bring anything to the conversation.


Oh, yes. The people that live there don't bring anything to the conversation aand should be ignored.

There's a massive difference between regeneration and gentrification. People who live in Tottenham are going to be forced out because of unaffordable rents. How much further out are they going to go? London is becoming Paris on steroids.
 

worcestersauce

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Oh, yes. The people that live there don't bring anything to the conversation aand should be ignored.

There's a massive difference between regeneration and gentrification. People who live in Tottenham are going to be forced out because of unaffordable rents. How much further out are they going to go? London is becoming Paris on steroids.
They aren't the people that live there, the people that live there came out for it almost unanimously, these people expected otherwise and when the people that live there decided they wanted demolition and redevelopment they simply ignored them. The people that live there have much to bring to the conversation and should not be ignored, in fact they aren't being ignored by us or the authorities, it is these noise makers that have nothing to bring to the conversation and should be ignored. Don't make the mistake of confusing the two.
 

HotspurFC1950

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Bloody hell, did I also miss this? :oops:

A small stadium related note from the minutes of the latest THST meeting, about safe standing:

"PH confirmed that the Rail Seating demonstration has been arranged for Thursday 16 July in the car park outside Lilywhite House with Jon Darch of the Safe Standing Roadshow and the Stadium Project Team at THFC."

Standing in the Kop. What an atmosphere!!
 

whitesocks

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Oh, yes. The people that live there don't bring anything to the conversation aand should be ignored.

There's a massive difference between regeneration and gentrification. People who live in Tottenham are going to be forced out because of unaffordable rents. How much further out are they going to go? London is becoming Paris on steroids.
I think it is fair to say that it would have happened anyway regardless of a new stadium.
The new stadium however does allow the developers to 'push' the planning limits and maximise profits.
 

davidmatzdorf

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People who live in Tottenham are going to be forced out because of unaffordable rents. How much further out are they going to go? London is becoming Paris on steroids.

In general, this is what will happen. However, the council tenants who actually be displaced will have their affordable rents protected if they move to another council or housing association property.

The rents of replacement (and any additional) affordable housing units, when they are let to new/incoming tenants, will be at much higher rents - probably 80% of market levels - which, in my opinion, are not affordable rents in London.

I strongly agree with your Paris comparison. I do not think it is accident, I think it's design.
 
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Hoopspur

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Sorry, the thing I am still unclear about is the High Road itself. Will there be a large 'bridge' over it with different facilities etc on it or will it still form a natural barrier between the station and the new ground. Will this be closed on match days? I've always felt that the road was the trouble with the existing stadium, so it'll be interesting to see how the architects actually propose getting round this. Plenty of illustrations showing squares, greenery and retail outlets but only a couple showing the road and a double decker - kind of played down.
 
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