New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Phischy]

We knew a general timeline for the demolition of old white hart lane and they seemed to keep to that, and it's barely been more than 2 months since the season ended so there's no way that's 'slipped a few months'.

I agree, it doesn't seem likely, but building work slowed noticeably during the demolition and perhaps it was intended for there to be more building activity, which may ultimately have been hampered by elements of the demolition.

As David Matzdorf has said before, it's so difficult to know without the works schedule and even if something is behind, other elements may be ahead, there may be opportunities to catch up and until opening day, it doesn't really matter... because they are going to be chasing around like blue arsed flies to get this done no matter what anyway!

 

[dazzle]

Hmmm, yeah - the only stuff that can be classed as substructure recently would be the Park Lane foundations I guess?

If that's the case, they can't possibly have been delayed by 2 months already. That area was only released from the demolition crew a few weeks ago.

 

[spursfan77]

The only substructure completed recently was that of the South stand and that doesn't appear to have had any major delays. If this 'someone in the industry' isn't working on the project then I doubt they'd have any real insight as to where it is regarding the critical path.

They aren't, but the person they got it from is, and would 100% know what is currently going on on site. Let's hope he's bullshitting for whatever reason or if not that we can catch up.

 

[spursfan77]

Matzdorf is gunna lose it when he sees this kind of 'itk' again

I doubt it, he's the kind of poster I'm asking as to whether he thinks it could be likely.

 

[spursfan77]

We're going to have this ind of rumour every week or two for the next year. Just ignore it. It's all bullshit. Even if it turns out to be correct, it was still bullshit. No one knows except Mace and THFC.

Exactly. I wouldn't be passing it on if I wasn't 100% certain it would be from somebody who knows. But there's no chance I'm saying who it is. It certainly isn't all bullshit.

 

[yiddopaul]

I'd like to know why a team's not allowed to play in two separate stadiums in one season anyway? If the new stadium is not ready for the first 3 months of 2018/19 season, why can't we just move in when it's ready? I know that's the law etc. But it makes no sense. It's not like we're building a new stadium every year, it's not like we'll have an advantage. Surely they can be more flexible in these situations?

 

[THFCSPURS19]

It might have been started late... hard to know. The works may have taken the correct amount of time, but perhaps they were supposed to begin some time ago.

The demolition was meant to take 12 weeks, and we are now in the 12th week and WHL is gone. Doesn't sound behind to me.

 

[nailsy]

I'd like to know why a team's not allowed to play in two separate stadiums in one season anyway? If the new stadium is not ready for the first 3 months of 2018/19 season, why can't we just move in when it's ready? I know that's the law etc. But it makes no sense. It's not like we're building a new stadium every year, it's not like we'll have an advantage. Surely they can be more flexible in these situations?

It wouldn't be fair to make visiting teams play in different stadiums.

 

[thebenjamin]

They aren't, but the person they got it from is, and would 100% know what is currently going on on site. Let's hope he's bullshitting for whatever reason or if not that we can catch up.

I've actually been told by someone who works on the Wembley side that we've already signed up for another year at Wembley. The guy's a bit of a twat though so choosing to ignore him.

 

[beats1]

Ive just heard from someone in the industry that construction has slipped a few months and there is concern that it wont be ready in time and we may have to play away for 2 seasons. Something too do with being behind with the substructure works. (I'm being vague as I don't want to give too much away from where I heard it)

I thought most of the substructure was already done, maybe someone on here could confirm or not?

I actually think the substructure is behind but I honestly can't see scenario where we have to play two seasons away and its normal somethings are behind.

The stadium is ahead in some aspects and most of it is on time.

The internal fittings have started in some areas.

Looking at the staduim now, I cant see why we would be 2 seasons away. There is alot of pilings to do for the pitch but the south stand structure is pretty much is starting to go up and people will soon be less hysterical imo.

The only way we dont start at the club is something goes wrong with the pitch structure and we dont go with the back up option of a permanent pitch for one season before replacing it with a retractable pitch

 

[Gb160]

I've actually been told by someone who works on the Wembley side that we've already signed up for another year at Wembley. The guy's a bit of a twat though so choosing to ignore him.

Probably a contingency in case something goes tits up.

 

[DanielCHillier]

I've actually been told by someone who works on the Wembley side that we've already signed up for another year at Wembley. The guy's a bit of a twat though so choosing to ignore him.

We haven't 'signed up', we have the option of another year in our contract.

 

[yiddopaul]

It wouldn't be fair to make visiting teams play in different stadiums.

But they will be visiting Wembley or the new stadium once. Hardly going to affect their season.

 

[spursfan77]

I'd like to know why a team's not allowed to play in two separate stadiums in one season anyway? If the new stadium is not ready for the first 3 months of 2018/19 season, why can't we just move in when it's ready? I know that's the law etc. But it makes no sense. It's not like we're building a new stadium every year, it's not like we'll have an advantage. Surely they can be more flexible in these situations?

Yeah I don't get it. I'm sure scudamore said it and everyone took it as gospel but then nobody could find it in the premier league rules. If we have to you can bet Levy will have the solicitors going over it with a fine tooth comb.

It wouldn't be fair to make visiting teams play in different stadiums.

I don't see how unless you think we will be poor at Wembley but terrific at new whl.

But they will be visiting Wembley or the new stadium once. Hardly going to affect their season.

I agree.

 

[spursfan77]

I actually think the substructure is behind but I honestly can't see scenario where we have to play two seasons away and its normal somethings are behind.

The stadium is ahead in some aspects and most of it is on time.

The internal fittings have started in some areas.

Looking at the staduim now, I cant see why we would be 2 seasons away. There is alot of pilings to do for the pitch but the south stand structure is pretty much is starting to go up and people will soon be less hysterical imo.

The only way we dont start at the club is something goes wrong with the pitch structure and we dont go with the back up option of a permanent pitch for one season before replacing it with a retractable pitch

I agree, I reckon we will be fine. Just passing on what I was told this afternoon.

Like others have said, it's normal for some parts to be ahead and others behind on a project this size. Mace won't want to be behind schedule. Some large developers have damages set at £500k a week for incomplete work!

 

[Phischy]

The demolition was meant to take 12 weeks, and we are now in the 12th week and WHL is gone. Doesn't sound behind to me.

Indeed, but the scale or nature of the demolition may have been unexpected or different than planned, preventing planned works taking place during the period of demolition itself.

 

[nailsy]

But they will be visiting Wembley or the new stadium once. Hardly going to affect their season.

I mean that teams might find it easier to play us at Wembely than they would do at the new ground therefore the teams playing us at Wembley could have an advantage over the other sides.

 

[Lilbaz]

I'd like to know why a team's not allowed to play in two separate stadiums in one season anyway? If the new stadium is not ready for the first 3 months of 2018/19 season, why can't we just move in when it's ready? I know that's the law etc. But it makes no sense. It's not like we're building a new stadium every year, it's not like we'll have an advantage. Surely they can be more flexible in these situations?

What happens if old trafford burned down after 7 games? Do they kick utd out of the league?

At the end of the day the pl is run by the owners of the clubs. If 2/3 agree that a team can play in more than one stadium it will happen. They'd just need a good reason for it.

 

[SandroClegane]

I actually think the substructure is behind but I honestly can't see scenario where we have to play two seasons away and its normal somethings are behind.

The stadium is ahead in some aspects and most of it is on time.

The internal fittings have started in some areas.

Looking at the staduim now, I cant see why we would be 2 seasons away. There is alot of pilings to do for the pitch but the south stand structure is pretty much is starting to go up and people will soon be less hysterical imo.

The only way we dont start at the club is something goes wrong with the pitch structure and we dont go with the back up option of a permanent pitch for one season before replacing it with a retractable pitch

If the roof isn't up in January, we'll be behind schedule. Until then I'm not going to get worried. Things look like they're progressing fine.

 

[raggy]

How can the build possibly be a couple of months behind when a couple of months ago we had confirmation that it was on schedule. Makes no sense at all.

Don't want to write off any info people give in good faith but I just can't believe that. Plus we've had this rumour that it's behind about 20 times so far this build and each time the club has ended up saying it's on schedule when asked.