New Stadium Details And Discussions

[cider spurs]

Anyone found guilty of damage should be given a free ticket to the park lane and a shirt that says I broke the window.

I'm up for this.

36 years ago, one week's pocket money docked for skewing football into greenhouse in back garden.

 

[Phischy]

There was some discussion about where in the stadium would be future-proofed for safe standing and there was some suggestion that there would be areas other than in the South Stand. This is incorrect, based on the current plans only the South Stand will provide this option and the map of blocks which include safe standing (all or in part) is below: -

Note: the safe standing actually only goes up to the 'waistline' of the stand (where the wheelchair user bays are), the corner blocks of the stand go from pitch level all the way up, so in reality the safe standing doesn't go anywhere near as high as it appears, those blocks just 'include' safe standing.

 

[Hengy1]

 

[worcestersauce]

There was some discussion about where in the stadium would be future-proofed for safe standing and there was some suggestion that there would be areas other than in the South Stand. This is incorrect, based on the current plans only the South Stand will provide this option and the map of blocks which include safe standing (all or in part) is below: - View attachment 37257

Note: the safe standing actually only goes up to the 'waistline' of the stand (where the wheelchair user bays are), the corner blocks of the stand go from pitch level all the way up, so in reality the safe standing doesn't go anywhere near as high as it appears, those blocks just 'include' safe standing.

So those blocks aren't future proofed for safe standing but those blocks are the ones that have some future proofed for safe standing in them?

 

[Lilbaz]

It’s clearly a different logic. Shops aren’t hated. There’s no reason for a drunken idiot to throw a brick at a shop. But a group of mindless Arsenal West Ham drunk 2 Am on a Saturday morning that happen to be passing. Especially when it’s new and shiny. Bit like all the trouble at London stadium first few weeks. Just some people’s mindset when someone you hate has something new and shiny.

Anyone walking the streets of tottenham at 02:00 on a saturday morning will probably not want to draw any attention to themselves.

 

[Phischy]

So those blocks aren't future proofed for safe standing but those blocks are the ones that have some future proofed for safe standing in them?

I don't know if one of us is confused here... It's only the bottom part of the stand which has the future proofing. But the way the map shows it, it just highlights every block that includes it. the three in each corner are blocks which stretch all the way up the full height of the stand, which is why it shows yellow up to the roof, but not the entirety of each block is futureproofed, only the portion below the wheelchair area.

 

[Lilbaz]

There was some discussion about where in the stadium would be future-proofed for safe standing and there was some suggestion that there would be areas other than in the South Stand. This is incorrect, based on the current plans only the South Stand will provide this option and the map of blocks which include safe standing (all or in part) is below: - View attachment 37257

Note: the safe standing actually only goes up to the 'waistline' of the stand (where the wheelchair user bays are), the corner blocks of the stand go from pitch level all the way up, so in reality the safe standing doesn't go anywhere near as high as it appears, those blocks just 'include' safe standing.

Why don't they have safe standing in the wheelchair user bays?

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't know if one of us is confused here... It's only the bottom part of the stand which has the future proofing. But the way the map shows it, it just highlights every block that includes it. the three in each corner are blocks which stretch all the way up the full height of the stand, which is why it shows yellow up to the roof, but not the entirety of each block is futureproofed, only the portion below the wheelchair area.

Nope that's perfectly clear, I think we are both in perfect agreement.

 

[Trippier the RB fantastic]

It’s clearly a different logic. Shops aren’t hated. There’s no reason for a drunken idiot to throw a brick at a shop. But a group of mindless Arsenal West Ham drunk 2 Am on a Saturday morning that happen to be passing. Especially when it’s new and shiny. Bit like all the trouble at London stadium first few weeks. Just some people’s mindset when someone you hate has something new and shiny.

The glass they use nowadays wont get smashed by someone throwing a brick mate.

 

[Dougal]

The glass they use nowadays wont get smashed by someone throwing a brick mate.

What do you recommend?

Great username...

 

[Trippier the RB fantastic]

What do you recommend?

Great username...

Thanks mate.

 

[longtimespur]

Thanks mate.

Just think if we sign De Ligt too

Trippier de ligt fantastic would be a great username

 

[RichieS]

Just think if we sign De Ligt too

Trippier de ligt fantastic would be a great username

I think @Trippier the RB fantastic should ask @Dougal to reserve that for him/her now.

 

[adamsky]

My least favourite part of the whole build. There’s not much they could do being that close to the high street but it’s just ‘meh’.

Will look a lot better once the coloured cladding is installed

 

[tony0379]

 

[Trippier the RB fantastic]

Just think if we sign De Ligt too

Trippier de ligt fantastic would be a great username

That would be a brilliant username , lets hope we sign the kid.

 

[gilzeantheking]

An update on the @NewSpursStadium project posted to properties around the development site

 

[sammyj]

very exciting

 

[Rocksuperstar]

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Something I've always wondered about engineering on this scale - how did they decide twelve was the right number of bolts needed to hold each of them plates to that block? Did they try ten and decide it just needed that little bit extra, just in case? Did they start with fourteen and figure they could make the design cheaper?

It looks practically nuke proof, I just can't figure out how you would settle on that number of bolts, what factors would have to be considered or how you'd test that to destruction.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Something I've always wondered about engineering on this scale - how did they decide twelve was the right number of bolts needed to hold each of them plates to that block? Did they try ten and decide it just needed that little bit extra, just in case? Did they start with fourteen and figure they could make the design cheaper?

It looks practically nuke proof, I just can't figure out how you would settle on that number of bolts, what factors would have to be considered or how you'd test that to destruction.

When you study engineering, there are books that set out the ways that you calculate the number and width and the type of steel needed for these connections, depending on the mass of the load and how it is distributed. I can't do it, but I work with lots of engineers. It's not trial-and-error, it's formulae and principles derived from the trial-and-error of previous centuries and the laws of physics and materials science.

When I built my house, which is timber-framed, I saw the calculations that derived the dimensions of the roof rafters, posts and floor joists. They even took into account that we were using British-grown Douglas Fir, which isn't quite as strong as the usual Scandinavian imported timber. People still ask me, with a worried look, about the loading of the soil on my "green roof"and whether the roof can handle it. Of course: because the extra load was all taken into account in the engineer's calculations.

@Ionman34 does this for a living. If he can keep his jargon in his pocket , he can probably give a better explanation than I can.