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worcestersauce

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Fully extended the pitch trays again, if they close them up tomorrow we'll have a pitch by this time next week.(y)
 

coys200

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Surely the biggest financial gain out of the Wembley Kahn deal would be him moving Fulham to Wembley and developing the land. I think the West Ham flat development is worth about £500m surely Fulham would be worth £2-3bn on property prices. That has to be his incentive, I don’t see how moving the Jaguars to London is of any great financial benefit to him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he renamed them as well to some stupid Fulham/Wembley hybrid like MK dons. If I was a Fulham fan I’d be extremely worried.
 

Saoirse

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Surely the biggest financial gain out of the Wembley Kahn deal would be him moving Fulham to Wembley and developing the land. I think the West Ham flat development is worth about £500m surely Fulham would be worth £2-3bn on property prices. That has to be his incentive, I don’t see how moving the Jaguars to London is of any great financial benefit to him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he renamed them as well to some stupid Fulham/Wembley hybrid like MK dons. If I was a Fulham fan I’d be extremely worried.
I get the thinking but unlikely. For starters they'd have to get planning permission from Brent Council as it would exceed the event limit and for a permanent move that'd be a very likely no. For seconds I believe the Cottage itself is a listed building which'd get in the way. And for thirds if the FA have any sense (you never know :p ) they'll make sure this breaches one of the conditions in the contract which then lets them buy the ground back for £100m. Khan's in it for the NFL and related commercial exposure. Not to mention that given the FA would be paying him rent every time they use it he'd start making some of the £600m back straight away just from that revenue stream alone.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Surely the biggest financial gain out of the Wembley Kahn deal would be him moving Fulham to Wembley and developing the land. I think the West Ham flat development is worth about £500m surely Fulham would be worth £2-3bn on property prices. That has to be his incentive, I don’t see how moving the Jaguars to London is of any great financial benefit to him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he renamed them as well to some stupid Fulham/Wembley hybrid like MK dons. If I was a Fulham fan I’d be extremely worried.

The longstanding problem that Fulham have with Craven Cottage is that the stadium is a listed building. It would be impossibly expensive and probably just plain impossible to develop that site as a new build residential development in a way that would saisfy the planning authority (Hammersmith & Fulham) and Historic England.

It's not so much that it has prevented them from moving, rather that it has made it impossible for them to extend the stadium to increase capacity.
 

Metalhead

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Reports that the FA have agreed the saale of Wembley to Shahid Khan. Can only be monumentally bad news for us if that goes through. He makes Wembley the home for Jacksonville Jaguars = no NFL franchise for us = we spent a phenomenal amount of time and money for a measly 2 games a year and then a possible white elephant after that deal expires.
We must be a world leader in selling off our national assets.
 

Dunc2610

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The longstanding problem that Fulham have with Craven Cottage is that the stadium is a listed building. It would be impossibly expensive and probably just plain impossible to develop that site as a new build residential development in a way that would saisfy the planning authority (Hammersmith & Fulham) and Historic England.

It's not so much that it has prevented them from moving, rather that it has made it impossible for them to extend the stadium to increase capacity.
Plus they're developing the stand on the Riverside!
 

whitesocks

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the thing with Wembley if the Fulham owner gets permission to move the Jags over, the pitch won't be too great for football, along with other events he might try and hold there.

something that will never effect us.

when it comes to the stadium opening I will not to expect to hear anything until we have the certificate granted
The NFL season ends Jan/Feb. Re-lay the pitch and it will be good for crunch England qualifiers, playoffs and finals.
England will have to go on tour for the first half of the season though, and it is ironic that we could pick up more plain old football fixtures in our new flexible home.
 

mickeybaz

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One side of the walkway on the SS roof looks (almost) complete ?
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Lighty64

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The NFL season ends Jan/Feb. Re-lay the pitch and it will be good for crunch England qualifiers, playoffs and finals.
England will have to go on tour for the first half of the season though, and it is ironic that we could pick up more plain old football fixtures in our new flexible home.

I thought he intended to move Fulham there but have since found out differently
 

markdadude

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All this talk of NFL franchise at wembley, maybe at NWHL and yet no one has mentioned it's a sport in huge crisis.

Some Ex-players and commentators are saying in as little as 10 years it could dissapear from american life. Why? It destroys players brains. They get CTE from thousands of sub concussive blows to the head, and every single ex-player may be affected, including high school and college players! Decent PBS docu here if interested...

I believe this push to europe by the NFL is in direct response to the crisis at home and trying to keep a sinking ship afloat or cash in while they can. Anyway it's a bit short sighted to invest so heavily an dual purpose NFL ground as these facts haven't just recently come to light.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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All this talk of NFL franchise at wembley, maybe at NWHL and yet no one has mentioned it's a sport in huge crisis.

Some Ex-players and commentators are saying in as little as 10 years it could dissapear from american life. Why? It destroys players brains. They get CTE from thousands of sub concussive blows to the head, and every single ex-player may be affected, including high school and college players! Decent PBS docu here if interested...

I believe this push to europe by the NFL is in direct response to the crisis at home and trying to keep a sinking ship afloat or cash in while they can. Anyway it's a bit short sighted to invest so heavily an dual purpose NFL ground as these facts haven't just recently come to light.

Interesting.

Perhaps there's a possibility that non-US audiences, being on the whole less knowledgeable and less steeped in the game's traditions, will be more receptive of the types of changes that may be enforced to make it safer.

I doubt that this is the explanation, but may it be a part of the thinking?
 

markdadude

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Interesting.

Perhaps there's a possibility that non-US audiences, being on the whole less knowledgeable and less steeped in the game's traditions, will be more receptive of the types of changes that may be enforced to make it safer.

I doubt that this is the explanation, but may it be a part of the thinking?

Yes that's a good point. Europeans are probably more willing to accept some safer version of the sport. But I don't think there are any easy solutions - no one is going to accept touch football. Ironically, its probably all the body armour that has brought about the dangers, but I am no expert.

One thing I was also thinking of saying but didn't, is that I find it a bit questionable simply on ethical grounds by Levy to invest in a sport where a significant number of ex-players are left with an extremely bad quality of life after their short careers. Remember that touching feel good movie with Sandra Bullock based on a true story "the Blindside"? Michael Oher ended up being discharged on medical grounds after being in concussion protocol for 9 months
 

coys200

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I get the thinking but unlikely. For starters they'd have to get planning permission from Brent Council as it would exceed the event limit and for a permanent move that'd be a very likely no. For seconds I believe the Cottage itself is a listed building which'd get in the way. And for thirds if the FA have any sense (you never know :p ) they'll make sure this breaches one of the conditions in the contract which then lets them buy the ground back for £100m. Khan's in it for the NFL and related commercial exposure. Not to mention that given the FA would be paying him rent every time they use it he'd start making some of the £600m back straight away just from that revenue stream alone.

But if Kahn wants to move jaguars he’d have to get permission from Brent anyway. As the NFL games would exceed the quota. And tbh he’d probably be fine with 50k for Fulham. Not sure which parts of the cottage are listed. I’d presume the old stand that faces the road. Im sure some clever architect could incorporate that into a build. Wembley only turned a profit of £5m last season. A £600m purchase just to move a NFL team makes no sense when he’s currently renting a stadium for peanuts. Also was surprised to see Wembley is actually close to Fulham than spurs. It’s only 9 miles from Fulham. Let’s see how it pans out. But if you take a step back and just think the owner of a PL team is buying a stadium for £600m just 9 miles from where his team plays in an ancient stadium it makes you wonder.
 

thfc1973

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Its not a bad idea to have a multi event stadium in any case. Even if the NFL were to wane in support and desire, I'm pretty sure the astro underneath could easily be modified to accommodate other sports like Tennis, Hockey and maybe even Baseball (MLB).. In fact I would love to see a MLB game at theNWHL stadium some day..
 

spud

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All this talk of NFL franchise at wembley, maybe at NWHL and yet no one has mentioned it's a sport in huge crisis.

Some Ex-players and commentators are saying in as little as 10 years it could dissapear from american life. Why? It destroys players brains. They get CTE from thousands of sub concussive blows to the head, and every single ex-player may be affected, including high school and college players! Decent PBS docu here if interested...

I believe this push to europe by the NFL is in direct response to the crisis at home and trying to keep a sinking ship afloat or cash in while they can. Anyway it's a bit short sighted to invest so heavily an dual purpose NFL ground as these facts haven't just recently come to light.
This will no doubt have an impact on the number of young boys starting to play (US) football, but I doubt that it will sound the death knell for the sport. It must be remembered that for many americans professional sport is one of only a few ways out of a probable life of poverty and/or crime/gang involvement and so while more affluent parents may well decide that they don't want their sons being exposed to the potential risks, there will still be a huge number of athletically gifted kids who will aspire to play in the NFL.
 
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