New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Caco]

Are you telling me there aren’t times you’ve sat at a Spurs game and thought you’d rather be sat on a riverbank? I’m not saying 100% but it’s more weeding out the ones who sit there bored or playing with their phones or ‘the greatest evil of all’, eating popcorn. If they’re filling the seats of someone who is 75% committed then I know who’d I’d rather have sat there going forward.

Edit: I put that more succinctly but my boss showed up and the long post I had written had just bloody disappeared. It was rousing I tell ya! Think Mel Gibson in Braveheart, Tom Cruise in Jerry Maguire or Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday. People would have been throwing their popcorn across the room. This isn’t that post. Just a tribute to it.

I know were you're coming from, however, with the large corporate facilities, and no matter how impressive it may look in pictures, the likes of an exclusive tunnel club, you're always going to have a very large proportion of people at games who only came because they got a free ticket and a meal/free bar. Sort of out of context with where the thread was going, but eat the rich and all that! It was you're rousing speech which got me going.

 

[Dougal]

I know were you're coming from, however, with the large corporate facilities, and no matter how impressive it may look in pictures, the likes of an exclusive tunnel club, you're always going to have a very large proportion of people at games who only came because they got a free ticket and a meal/free bar. Sort of out of context with where the thread was going, but eat the rich and all that! It was you're rousing speech which got me going.

I’ll never be in the tunnel club. ‘Cheap’ seats only but I see these people all the time. Some people just have too much spare cash I guess and need to fill a gap. I’ve been once since October because I don’t. Spurs is a necessity I can’t afford which is why a trip to a game can never be casual. And why I’ve only left before the final whistle twice in over 30 years.

 

[worcestersauce]

Ten minutes at the end of the game can make an hour's difference getting home, I don't ever leave early but there are times I've wished I had believe me.

 

[Tiffers]

Beat what rush? Where are people rushing off to? I kinda get the last train argument for a night game but most of the time people sacrifice 15-20 minutes of a 90 minute game so they can spend an hour doing something presumably more important. It’s matchday. Allow time for a match and it’s associated travel time. Otherwise why are you bothering at all? Especially with our perchant for the late goal.

In my case it depends on the game I'm watching if there's a 70K plus crowd I always leave Wembley early in order that I can get to Wembley Park station without being stopped several times along Olympic Way. I do this now because it took me almost an hour last season after the Man U game and at 80 years of age that's just too much hastle for me. I didn't leave early when we were ar WHL and I don't anticipate leaving early when we're at the new stadium.

 

[Dougal]

In my case it depends on the game I'm watching if there's a 70K plus crowd I always leave Wembley early in order that I can get to Wembley Park station without being stopped several times along Olympic Way. I do this now because it took me almost an hour last season after the Man U game and at 80 years of age that's just too much hastle for me. I didn't leave early when we were ar WHL and I don't anticipate leaving early when we're at the new stadium.

Bloody fairweather fan...



To be fair, it’s not an elderly exodus that clears the stadium. I’m sure everyone has an individual story but for the most part it’s the dislike of being stuck outside Wembley Park. And that dislike is placed above watching the end of a game in order of importance.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

I'd love to know the thoughts of people on us being at Wembley from people who have not actually experienced a match day at Wembley. Genuinely curious.

Old Trafford, post fergie, is absolutely full of tourists and empty seats now and the fans hate it because it has severely impacted the atmosphere there. It's great that people want to make long journeys to watch Spurs and I don't begrudge that one bit, however when you see us winning 3-0 at Dortmund and people are piling out of the stadium on the 85th minute...that fucking winds me up no end.

It's not the tourists piling out at 85 mins - it's the regular fans that know what it's like trying to leave Wembley.

 

[SurreySpur82]

I can understand leaving a bit earlier on a midweek evening fixture where it's already late and leaving at full time could see you getting home after midnight. I can't see why you'd leave early on a weekend afternoon kickoff though.

Plus I thought most people stayed until the end on Wednesday.

 

[danielneeds]

Ten minutes at the end of the game can make an hour's difference getting home, I don't ever leave early but there are times I've wished I had believe me.

I hope I wrong, but I think people leaving early is going to be a big issue at the new stadium as well. The transport infrastructure could barely handle 30k, how it’s going to deal with 60k God only knows.

Could play into Levy’s hands with people staying in the stadium post-match and drinking in those funky looking bars though.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

It's not the tourists piling out at 85 mins - it's the regular fans that know what it's like trying to leave Wembley.

The only game i've ever left early is Wolves at home this season. The time getting home is irrelevant to me because i've come to support Spurs. Had i left the Burnley game early, i would've missed the winner.

The thing that sticks in my mind is the final game of last season. The stadium was half empty when the players came around to do a lap of honour. The fans had absolutely no excuse to disrespect the players like that. It was 5pm in May ffs.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

The only game i've ever left early is Wolves at home this season. The time getting home is irrelevant to me because i've come to support Spurs. Had i left the Burnley game early, i would've missed the winner.

The thing that sticks in my mind is the final game of last season. The stadium was half empty when the players came around to do a lap of honour. The fans had absolutely no excuse to disrespect the players like that. It was 5pm in May ffs.

I agree with you - I hate it too and never leave early. But it isn't the tourists and casuals responsible for it. It's the regulars who do it. Tourists likely stay to lap up every moment of the atmosphere like I do when going to a game abroad with no work the day after.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I didn’t get home from the game till 1am after Dortmund because i stayed and because the trains were fucked out of Waterloo (I live in Andover).

Worth it

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Sometimes we just leave and sometimes we walk to the top of the stairs, wait for the whistle and leg it. Just that simple thing shaves 30 mins off the journey home.

We never leave before the whistle, but if the game's not on a knife-edge or if it's a particularly huge crowd, this is what we do. As you say, getting ahead of the crowd can knock 20-30 minutes off the trip home, which is especially persuasive if it's raining or freezing cold.

I think there is a difference between the “casual fan” and the “tourist type”. A casual fan may not often go, but is there for the match. A tourist (and there are many at Wembley and I’m sure there will be some at the new stadium) seem to be there just as something to do on your London visit. The match is just background to the endless photos, videos, selfie sticks, popcorn, updating your social media bollocks.

I've seen so many condemnatory "opinions" posted about this, but this is the first that has managed to nail the important distinction. There's a chasm of difference between the Spurs fan who can only attend the occasional match (such as I was before I got my season ticket in 2010) and a tourist who is visiting a London landmark for a selfie.

It may be that this is being exacerbated by being at Wembley, where the fame of the venue is arguably greater than and independent of the renown of Spurs. We might find that, after an initial novelty-period in the new stadium, the percentage of selfie-takers with zero footballing interest declines.

I hope I wrong, but I think people leaving early is going to be a big issue at the new stadium as well. The transport infrastructure could barely handle 30k, how it’s going to deal with 60k God only knows.

Could play into Levy’s hands with people staying in the stadium post-match and drinking in those funky looking bars though.

It's really t'other way around. The myriad attractions are being provided, in part, as part of the planning strategy to stagger arrivals and departures from the stadium and reduce pressure on local bus transport - which is being improved as well.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Yes Wembley is a pain to get home from but WHL is just as bad if not worse for me. I just accept this is part of going to the game and although done it once or twice in my life I hate leaving early in fact I don't really understand it (and I live way down in East Sussex)

 

[THFCSPURS19]

First football match I ever went to was England 1-1 Brazil - first England game at the new Wembley. I left early and Brazil scored in the last minute. I vowed after that to never leave a game early.

Apart from the Wolves game this season where I basically rage quitted.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I move to the end of the aisle as soon as added time goes up and then have a little jog to the station once the whistle goes and it's very rare that I'm held up, although I am lucky with being in Block J as it's right next to the ramp down.

 

[Dougal]

It's really t'other way around. The myriad attractions are being provided, in part, as part of the planning strategy to stagger arrivals and departures from the stadium and reduce pressure on local bus transport - which is being improved as well.

You can imagine how that meeting went.

‘We’re really going to have great difficulty when the final whistle blows and over 60,000 people leave the stadium and spill out onto the high road Mr Levy, but I think I may have found a solution. The only downside is that fans may have to spend yet more money inside the ground. Mr... Mr Levy... What are you doing? You’re squeezing me too tightly Mr Levy... Please Mr Levy... I’m a happily married man...’

 

[worcestersauce]

For the record I have absolutely no problem with tourist fans coming to see my team play, I suspect not many actual fans will miss out on tickets because of it so come one come all.
At least those people have chosen to come and see Spurs play and paid their money to do so, the ones I have a problem with are the corporate invitees, the complimentary day outers who know bugger all about football and even less about our team.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I move to the end of the isle...

Land's End or John o' Groats?

 

[danielneeds]

For the record I have absolutely no problem with tourist fans coming to see my team play, I suspect not many actual fans will miss out on tickets because of it so come one come all.
At least those people have chosen to come and see Spurs play and paid their money to do so, the ones I have a problem with are the corporate invitees, the complimentary day outers who know bugger all about football and even less about our team.

If those corporate invitees help pay for a new RB will you forgive them?

 

[Dougal]

Land's End or John o' Groats?

Either way, you need to leave early to get that train.