Next DoF

[lami]

This reeks of political propaganda.

Levy is under more pressure than he has ever been, season ticket renewals are due and the club is a laughing stock.
He needs something to get fans back on his side.
Nobody is really inspired by Slot, obviously people feel a little better about him now they've got to know more about him.
But Naglesmann gets the pulses racing, maybe convince a few doubters to renew season tickets.

If Naglesmann doesn't want to come, don't make the same mistake that we did with Conte and move on. If he wanted to come, but wasn't happy not knowing who was going to be DOF, then fair enough.

It just looks like a ploy to me to direct attention away from Levy.

 

[robertgoulet]

This reeks of political propaganda.

Levy is under more pressure than he has ever been, season ticket renewals are due and the club is a laughing stock.
He needs something to get fans back on his side.
Nobody is really inspired by Slot, obviously people feel a little better about him now they've got to know more about him.
But Naglesmann gets the pulses racing, maybe convince a few doubters to renew season tickets.

If Naglesmann doesn't want to come, don't make the same mistake that we did with Conte and move on. If he wanted to come, but wasn't happy not knowing who was going to be DOF, then fair enough.

It just looks like a ploy to me to direct attention away from Levy.

Not sure how it is a smart PR move to do this. There’s no upside unless JN is hired. Saying we are talking to him again only to then again either turn him (or us get turned down, whichever narrative you want) will only make DL look worse. To me the only reason this story gets put out is if they think they actually have a good shot at him again.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

There are some distinct differences between Conte & Nagelsmann....JN has previously discussed admiration for Tottenham, he would have been our coach 2 years ago had his dream job not been offered to him, he's hardly a "I will do you a favor" type of coach. I can 100% understand why he wants to know who will be leading recruitment and working with him. It may be a ploy to distract from levy and what worries me is Slot will either go elsewhere (Napoli?) or sign a new deal at Feyenoord, Nagelsmann wont come for one reason for another and we're scrambling AGAIN. I hope that never happens but it's always a possibility with this board and chairman. If it is Nagelsmann, I'd guess Krosche would be coming in at DoF.

 

[Albertbarich]

Yeah I don't think it's the club trying to trick anyone. It's just another one of the hundreds of articles linking us with managers.

 

[lami]

Not sure how it is a smart PR move to do this. There’s no upside unless JN is hired. Saying we are talking to him again only to then again either turn him (or us get turned down, whichever narrative you want) will only make DL look worse. To me the only reason this story gets put out is if they think they actually have a good shot at him again.

Possibly, but am I right in thinking that the season tickets need to be renewed within a short period of time? If so, ita a ploy for me.

Look at the decisions Levy has made recently, rise to spurs membership, denying speaking to Naglesmann when it's quite clear we have, Furlough during Covid, hired Stellini, then Mason.
Levy doesn't know how to not make himself look daft.

Nothing surprises me with this club

 

[robertgoulet]

Possibly, but am I right in thinking that the season tickets need to be renewed within a short period of time? If so, ita a ploy for me.

Look at the decisions Levy has made recently, rise to spurs membership, denying speaking to Naglesmann when it's quite clear we have, Furlough during Covid, hired Stellini, then Mason.
Levy doesn't know how to not make himself look daft.

Nothing surprises me with this club

How many people are going to renew just because we may be talking to JN again? This wasn’t a “Spurs are close to appointing JN” link.

 

[spurs9]

Nagelsmann back on if we get the right DOF according to The Times.

It's written by Duncan Castles, a broken clock is right more than him. Unless the article is on his mate Jose, it's not worth paying attention to.

 

[spurs9]

This reeks of political propaganda.

Levy is under more pressure than he has ever been, season ticket renewals are due and the club is a laughing stock.
He needs something to get fans back on his side.
Nobody is really inspired by Slot, obviously people feel a little better about him now they've got to know more about him.
But Naglesmann gets the pulses racing, maybe convince a few doubters to renew season tickets.

If Naglesmann doesn't want to come, don't make the same mistake that we did with Conte and move on. If he wanted to come, but wasn't happy not knowing who was going to be DOF, then fair enough.

It just looks like a ploy to me to direct attention away from Levy.

It puts more attention on Levy, it doesn't take it away.

If it was club propaganda, the would have used Ali Gold or Dan Kilpatrick to write the story, not Duncan Castles.

 

[Derryank]

Been said on a podcast I believe, the source is the chief reporter for Bild/Sportbild

I wonder if the JN news is tied to this story from yesterday......

 

[Metalhead]

This reeks of political propaganda.

Levy is under more pressure than he has ever been, season ticket renewals are due and the club is a laughing stock.
He needs something to get fans back on his side.
Nobody is really inspired by Slot, obviously people feel a little better about him now they've got to know more about him.
But Naglesmann gets the pulses racing, maybe convince a few doubters to renew season tickets.

If Naglesmann doesn't want to come, don't make the same mistake that we did with Conte and move on. If he wanted to come, but wasn't happy not knowing who was going to be DOF, then fair enough.

It just looks like a ploy to me to direct attention away from Levy.

It makes no sense though. Unless you know that you are going to get him, or have a good chance of it then you direct your attention to the candidate(s) remaining.

Bearing in mind that we have already pretty much officially stated that we don't want him then we look far worse then making it look like we do and then not getting him. Getting a few season ticket holders to sign up again on the basis that we are pretending to be pursuing him after saying we weren't would seem to be a fool's errand.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Wonder if this is what Trix was hinting at yesterday

 

[sidford]

Wonder if this is what Trix was hinting at yesterday

This is the mysterious 3rd option? Would make sense as there was a reason we would be keeping it secret and fact it's feyenoord makes sense

 

[markt]

Getting a DOF and improved scouting network is the most important thing for us.

Our biggest failures have been in the transfer market in recent years. Even when we do invest it is rarely players to fit the team / manager or they are lacking in ability or attitude.

We need a DOF to actually implement a proper strategy.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Wonder if this is what Trix was hinting at yesterday

That would be an odd move tbh. I don’t feel like he’s done anything to warrant the role. The Feyernood job is his first in Europe, before that he worked in US and for a long time in Mexico. Also he only just became technical director, Arnesen was in charge of transfer until midway through the season when he had to retire due to health reasons.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

This is the mysterious 3rd option? Would make sense as there was a reason we would be keeping it secret and fact it's feyenoord makes sense

Yeah it seems very possible, I just hope that it doesn’t mean that the Slot move is off by proxy.

Would make sense of the stories of though that we have reopened talks with Nagelsmann

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

That would be an odd move tbh. I don’t feel like he’s done anything to warrant the role. The Feyernood job is his first in Europe, before that he worked in US and for a long time in Mexico. Also he only just became technical director, Arnesen was in charge of transfer until midway through the season when he had to retire due to health reasons.

I had no knowledge of the man myself so appreciate the info

Have to say, the DOF role is the most hard to rate from the outside looking in. You really have no idea who’s doing the scouting/signing of players.

Feyenoord’s signings in the rebuild under Slot have been very successful with players being plucked from the Dutch second division and managing to make the Dutch national team.

I know there was discussion somewhere of Slot being part of a committee of managers/scouts that have created there own data driven system for scouting players, so this could be where they found these players potentially.

Then there’s Gimenez, the striker who’s been banging in goals for them all season. He was signed from Cruz Azul in Mexico, so in all likelihood he was scouted by Dennis Te Kloese.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Getting a DOF and improved scouting network is the most important thing for us.

Our biggest failures have been in the transfer market in recent years. Even when we do invest it is rarely players to fit the team / manager or they are lacking in ability or attitude.

We need a DOF to actually implement a proper strategy.

Agreed. And if I’m being picky, I’d like one that isn’t going to be in jail soon, too

 

[Caco]

Why is it so important to have a high profile DoF, seems to me this has been a big cause of problem under ENIC, especially given the fact that in every instance the DoF is just a puppet for Levy. I know it was floated previously about Redknapp, even though he has no real experience in the role, he'd be better for us as he'd be a proper buffer between Levy and first team affairs.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Yeah it seems very possible, I just hope that it doesn’t mean that the Slot move is off by proxy.

Would make sense of the stories of though that we have reopened talks with Nagelsmann

I honestly find it a really odd link. Arnesen as mentioned was the one in charge of transfer and played a big role in bringing Slot to the club. Over recent years Te Kloese seems to have been more a director/GM, more in the Munn role than the Paratici role. He was brought to Feyernood as CEO. Although he did start out his career in Mexico as chief scout in 2003 for Chivas he seemed to move quickly into more of a director role. On wiki it also says he was a scout at Ajax prior but I can’t find that mentioned anywhere else (but I only had a brief look)Essentially I’m not sure why we would look to him as our new DoF.

Also I don’t think we should necessarily be looking to replicate the Feyernood transfer strategy, I think the type of players they got worked in that league but I just don’t see it translating to the PL. At least not to the extreme degree they operate in. Really the BVB or Leipzig set up is what we should look to emulate. Krösche so far seems like the stand out candidate for us that we have so far been linked with. I honestly couldn’t tell you what sort of players te Kloese even likes.

Maybe he comes in and does take the Feyernoord system and upgrades it for a larger club and harder league. I’m sure Levy would love the idea of a team built on a tiny budget. But if he could actually do that I have zero clue because he has had no experience of doing it. It would be a big big gamble imo.

I also don’t think his appointment would tie to much to Slot, as in I think Slot would come regardless.

If you read the appointment notification by Feyernood bellow I think one would struggle to see why we would be even considering him.

Feyenoord appoints Te Kloese as CEO

Dennis te Kloese has been appointed as the new CEO of Feyenoord. Born in Bussum, The Netherlands, 47-year-old Te Kloese will be signing a contract with the Rotterdam based football club shortly and is set to assume his new role starting January 15, 2022. Te Kloese’s predecessor Mark Koevermans...

www.feyenoord.com

 

[Albertbarich]

There is no way a Feyernord DOF rejected us.

Unless he has billionaire parents and does this for fun he isn't saying no to probably increasing his salary by four times.

I'm not saying we're a bigger club or trying to act entitled. But money talks and right now English clubs have it all.