Next DoF

[dontcallme]

Santini was a Levy pick (Arnesen wanted Jol from the start) and a different DOF (Comolli) picked Ramos.

Still didn’t result in any level of continuity or longevity.

 

[sammy1882]

Oh yeah, I totally agree and I think that's one thing we sorely miss, especially since Pleat stepped away.
There's nobody with a voice at our club who really understands the club and the fans.
It's just got to be the right person, with the right personality and the right reasons for being there.

As you say, a Super Jan, a VdV or even a Freund would be great up top, having a say on what's going on at the place.
I'd like Ledley to be that person but I don't think he's a strong enough character.
It's the only way to ensure that the club keeps in touch with its "DNA" because it seems quite apparent that the majority of the board don't have a clue what it means.

I think Brad Friedel could be a good fit for a an ex player role like that.

 

[Metalhead]

The problem is, our longest serving DOF was Comolli at just 3 years, so they aren't lasting much longer than the managers.

No, that's true. We'll just have to see if the inclusion of Munn into the layers of authority will make any difference.

 

[cockerel downunder]

I had thought Spurs wanted a DOF to work under Munn, with Munn the finance and admin guy, but is Levy going to now just rely on the manager to also do the DOF role?

Some of the YouTube channels mentioned rumours that we may not now go for a DOF, just have a manager and Munn? And the focus on a manager first adds fuel to that rumour?

If so, are we getting even less football input into decision making on recruitment etc than under the Paratici/ Conte system?

It sounds to me that after the review of the structure they have gone up with something different with munn in a new role snd then head of recruitment instead of a dof, so they just focus on recruitment not youth teams etc. I think we already have someone else who looks after that. I think this kind of makes munn the dof but less hands on.

 

[Guntz]

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[mil1lion]

Random thought about the DOF. A lot of posters seem to favour this as it puts a football man in charge of football matters.

But another factor that people seem to favour is it is about longevity. The DOF oversees the implementation of a style of play and hires a head coach to fit this.

This hasn’t happened for us in reality. Arnesen appeared to be doing this but then quit pretty quickly.

Comolli then operated very differently and was fired along with the head coach he hired.

Baldini wasn’t DOF but was similar and wasn’t here long either.

I’m not really convinced the DOF is going to give us that longevity and a plan that we’re hoping for.

We've never really done it before. A dof usually just means more consistent signings. It's then a matter of finding a manager who can work with those players. Paratici didn't really have a set system in place but he got a lot of young potential to develop. It's similar to Baldini who got a lot of deals done (which included the Bale money). There was never really a set system but just a squad for AVB to develop. It didn't work for him but Poch came in and worked well with it.

I think we're more likely to do that again. Get a dof who signs potential so we just need a manager who is willing to spend time to develop the squad. That's why our transfer policy doesn't work for the likes of Jose or Conte. I'm happy to get another Paratici type as long as we have a manager who is flexible enough to work with what he has. If we get another Conte type then you need a dof who specifically goes for players to fit his system. That would mean if the manager is sacked the dof probably needs to go too though.

 

[dontcallme]

We've never really done it before. A dof usually just means more consistent signings. It's then a matter of finding a manager who can work with those players. Paratici didn't really have a set system in place but he got a lot of young potential to develop. It's similar to Baldini who got a lot of deals done (which included the Bale money). There was never really a set system but just a squad for AVB to develop. It didn't work for him but Poch came in and worked well with it.

I think we're more likely to do that again. Get a dof who signs potential so we just need a manager who is willing to spend time to develop the squad. That's why our transfer policy doesn't work for the likes of Jose or Conte. I'm happy to get another Paratici type as long as we have a manager who is flexible enough to work with what he has. If we get another Conte type then you need a dof who specifically goes for players to fit his system. That would mean if the manager is sacked the dof probably needs to go too though.

Arnesen and Comilla clearly were DOFs.

 

[mil1lion]

Arnesen and Comilla clearly were DOFs.

Only in the sense they go out and sign players. I've never got the sense we have a particular brand of football with them. It always comes from the manager we have at the time. Poch brought his own brand of football. That never came from the dof though. He inherited a lot of the players who were signed before he came. Mitchell got him some signings he was familiar with but also wasn't here that long. Redknapp didn't have a dof but had success in his own right. Jol made his own mark on the squad but didn't work well with Comolli.

We've never had a dof long enough to implement a style of football and then go get managers who fit. We've had so many different types of manager of the years and numerous different dof or sporting directors etc. Our most successful managers have been here longer than any dof. It just never works with a long term dof because under Levy they will never have enough control and influence.

 

[dontcallme]

Only in the sense they go out and sign players. I've never got the sense we have a particular brand of football with them. It always comes from the manager we have at the time. Poch brought his own brand of football. That never came from the dof though. He inherited a lot of the players who were signed before he came. Mitchell got him some signings he was familiar with but also wasn't here that long. Redknapp didn't have a dof but had success in his own right. Jol made his own mark on the squad but didn't work well with Comolli.

We've never had a dof long enough to implement a style of football and then go get managers who fit. We've had so many different types of manager of the years and numerous different dof or sporting directors etc. Our most successful managers have been here longer than any dof. It just never works with a long term dof because under Levy they will never have enough control and influence.

Arnesen talked a lot about implementing a playing style and formation and how he wanted that style to be present at every level to help young players settle into the first team more.

He didn’t stay long enough to do it, but he clearly was a DOF,

My overall point is that we have played around with having a DOF but never stuck to anything long enough, so I don’t expect us to now.

 

[quackers]

Feels like there is a chance here with the upheaval at Bayern munchen and I'd all be in favour of him coming in.

 

[jebratt]

Interestingly, it appears as though we are closer to appointing a manager before a DoF which would seem like a backwards way of doing things…

 

[cockerel downunder]

Interestingly, it appears as though we are closer to appointing a manager before a DoF which would seem like a backwards way of doing things…

I agree it would be, but let’s wait snd see what actually happens before judging. Also munn may be the one setting the vision etc in which case we have him in place already

 

[jebratt]

I get the sense we are trying to be as diligent as possible and are waiting to see the fallout from other clubs as someone might suddenly become available or consider an offer… The concern that I have is that some potential candidates might view our lack of action as indecisiveness and perhaps a little chaotic…

 

[glacierSpurs]

Random thought about the DOF. A lot of posters seem to favour this as it puts a football man in charge of football matters.

But another factor that people seem to favour is it is about longevity. The DOF oversees the implementation of a style of play and hires a head coach to fit this.

This hasn’t happened for us in reality. Arnesen appeared to be doing this but then quit pretty quickly.

Comolli then operated very differently and was fired along with the head coach he hired.

Baldini wasn’t DOF but was similar and wasn’t here long either.

I’m not really convinced the DOF is going to give us that longevity and a plan that we’re hoping for.

Unfortunately Levy once again is the common denominator here..

 

[tubbygold]

My biggest fear this summer is if Kane leaves and we don't have a good DoF in place to handle the situation, probably leaving Levy to reinvest the money. The stuff of nightmares.

 

[Silky Skills]

My biggest fear this summer is if Kane leaves and we don't have a good DoF in place to handle the situation, probably leaving Levy to reinvest the money. The stuff of nightmares.

Who reinvest the Bale money? I can unfortunately see Kane leaving on a free and rejoining up with Poch :-(

 

[SandroClegane]

My biggest fear this summer is if Kane leaves and we don't have a good DoF in place to handle the situation, probably leaving Levy to reinvest the money. The stuff of nightmares.

Kane can't leave, we'd have to sell him. Which I'm sure we aren't going to do without a DoF in place.

Levy's fucked a lot of things but these made up scenarios aren't helping anyone.

 

[Snarfalicious]

We should’t be going near Salihamidžić. Only there because he was a former player.

Guessing the Frankfurt DOF will go to Bayern then.

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[tubbygold]

Kane can't leave, we'd have to sell him. Which I'm sure we aren't going to do without a DoF in place.

Levy's fucked a lot of things but these made up scenarios aren't helping anyone.

I'm not saying he'd just head off, just if he WAS sold.

 

[ButchCassidy]

This actually feels a lot more important than the manager search to me. There’s no manager out there who can deliver us real sustained success without significant off-the-field upgrades, primarily in scouting and recruiting but other technical areas as well. We’ve heard about “data-driven recruiting” but so far not even a hint that the club know the first thing about how to implement it. Get the DoF right, and we can build even as managers come and go. Get it wrong and we’ll continue to spiral for years.