Agree - It’s really not hard to figure out.
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Ghost Hardware
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Exactly, there is no justifiable reason not to get him. Top target, not mega expensive, we have soooo many games coming up that it’s inevitable fatigue and injury will kick so another attacker will be needed and our primary CB option wasn’t coming this window.
I mean the only reason that makes any sense whatsoever to me is that Conte’s time at spurs is over. Because I don’t believe for a moment we would chase a player non stop for two windows to suddenly decide that Danjuma was better just as he was about to sign for Everton.
In fact, the really interesting scenario is, what would have happened if we had missed Danjuma.
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Everton probably would have stayed up.
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All these players that will be available in the summer will still need paying for. I don’t get the ‘there are no affordable players available in January’ Who’s to say we are going to be in a better position financially then? There are plenty of £20-30m players moving around this window (I am not saying they would all improve us) but if we aren’t able to afford marquee signings now, I don’t see us having tons more cash in summer ( especially if we don’t get CL) So being available is no guarantee that we will be able to get them.
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Pull the trigger.
I don't even want him, but another signing will give the fans some hope.
I don't even want him, but another signing will give the fans some hope.
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I can think of a few, especially if you consider all sides of the argument.
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Aside from Conte’s long term future, which i mentioned, then what? Out of curiosity.
He’s Contes and Paratici’s long term number one target, we have spent two window’s negotiating for him, he’s not overly expensive, he won’t be on big wages and wants to come. Plus we need bodies for the crazy amount of games we got coming and we just loaned out our only other natural left footer so realistically we are one injury away from having to play a player who has been injured all season in Lucas who is our only other natural right winger. Richarlison is useless on the right and Danjuma has played 19 games there in his entire career so they aren’t really options.
But even if you ignore most of that, surely the fact he was our number one target is enough of a reason?
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Because we are spurs and have levy in charge
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Bournemouth agreed to sign him before pulling out in one day. We’ve been chasing him for 2 years. You’d wonder who is the 9th weathliest club in the world reading that back.
Part of me wonders what really happened there. I wonder if they made the bid for PR assuming no chance club & player would actually accept and then had to back peddle when it turned out they would actually have to fork over 30M for the guy.
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It's all hyperbole, and speculation and none of us know.. but perhaps <insert my guesses below>
..He was admired, but not 1000% the #1 target in this time/situation
..Injury record and the club wasn't willing to risk it at this point of the season
..Roma could have been dicking about, see Jose's social media mind games
..On enquiry the deal wouldn't have been structured how we'd have liked,
..Tottenham might not have wanted him right now because there's a better target available in the summer.
..Less spending now means more FFP buffer if we really are going to be bought/invested in
..You only have to see how he screwed up the transfer to Bournemouth to have an insight to his character
..He might not have wanted to come to us, and intimated as much, so it wasn't pursued
Any of the above could be true, or not true. But the real truth is... we're not inside the club and so won't know what is really discussed around the table.
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No way we’ve been chasing him very hard. If we had, he’d be here.
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Zaniolo would not be my first choice but he's an exciting choice for a number of reasons.
- Conte & Fab have advocated for him for some time (according to ITK).
- Conte has a specific way of playing & is missing this particular piece.
- NZ's skilled, fit, very strong & very experienced despite his young age.
Even if we consider just one aspect of NZ's game:
In possession, the way he drives forward at pace greatly unsettles defenders. He's strong on the ball & can ride or outrun tackles. Someone mentioned that his passing rates poorly. That may or may not be true to some extent. What is evident is that, if he is utilized properly, he attracts a number of defenders which leaves plenty of space for our other attackers to receive the ball & run in to. Imagine Kane, Son, Deki, & / or Richy with more time & space inside or out of the box (particularly on our counters / fast breaks). They'd be lethal.
Given the ITK's info, if this deal isn't going through given these favourable circumstances, I believe Conte is gone this summer or even sooner. Levy / the board feel there's no reason to bring in what they may consider his "riskier" choices.
This chicken & the egg between Levy & Conte has relatively nullified any potential to go forward with conviction.
- Conte & Fab have advocated for him for some time (according to ITK).
- Conte has a specific way of playing & is missing this particular piece.
- NZ's skilled, fit, very strong & very experienced despite his young age.
Even if we consider just one aspect of NZ's game:
In possession, the way he drives forward at pace greatly unsettles defenders. He's strong on the ball & can ride or outrun tackles. Someone mentioned that his passing rates poorly. That may or may not be true to some extent. What is evident is that, if he is utilized properly, he attracts a number of defenders which leaves plenty of space for our other attackers to receive the ball & run in to. Imagine Kane, Son, Deki, & / or Richy with more time & space inside or out of the box (particularly on our counters / fast breaks). They'd be lethal.
Given the ITK's info, if this deal isn't going through given these favourable circumstances, I believe Conte is gone this summer or even sooner. Levy / the board feel there's no reason to bring in what they may consider his "riskier" choices.
This chicken & the egg between Levy & Conte has relatively nullified any potential to go forward with conviction.
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You’re right we don’t actually know the ins and outs of any deal. Essentially we are just going off ITK, which is second, third or fourth hand info essentially, and the media. But I would also say that when there are enough corroborating reports you can still get a pretty good overview of any transfer even if the specifics are unknown.
Personally I think a number of the points you raise are negated by the simple fact, and it is a fact, that we have tried to sign him for two consecutive windows. And that was reported by pretty much everyone. He was pretty much the sole AM/RWF we have been trying to sign, at least publicly. Now of course that doesn’t mean there aren’t others, but one would assume that if we had spent that much time trying to get him that he’s ether at the top or near the top of the list and would be happy to come. No team is going to spend that much time trying to agree a deal for someone who doesn’t want to come. It would just not make any sense and a waist of time and resources.
Also beyond that, if we have been trying to get him for two windows, surely we can’t be that worried about his injuries even if there may be some minor concerns.
And again, why negotiate for a player for two windows if there’s a player we like more available in the summer window especially as there is no guarantee we can get said player.
Personally I don’t think you can read much about his character into the Bournemouth situation. Why would he want to go there? He’s still a big prospect in Italy and an international. The fact fans turned up at his home and he had to call the police probably made him happy to take any offer as it wasn’t until after that he changed his mind about going.
Early reports, that were again pretty consistent across numerous outlets, suggested that Roma were okay with a loan but they wanted an non conditional obligation where as we and AC wanted the obligation only to become active if we got CL and/or a set number of goals and assists. That it seems was the major stumbling block here, we just didn’t want to fully commit to the player.
But again considering Paratici has been after him since 2019 and Conte since 2020 when he was at Inter, I would be very surprised if we suddenly mid window changed our minds. Especially if the reason we did was because of Danjuma, a player who plays on the opposite flank in a position we already have two other options for. I admit tho, this is just supposition and thus not really a fair but it’s still a bit of side step of a move.
Idk, essentially if any one of your points were true, and who knows maybe they are although I have my doubts, why spend two windows negotiating for him. That is the part I don’t get. But like I said, I think this comes down to Conte’s future here more than anything else.
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He end up staying put?
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Cavehillspur
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Bit of an awkward situation for him, really surprised we didn't make a move.
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Agree. I’m going to laugh if try going back in summer.
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