Norwich Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[gregga]

I'd took Benteke, Damaio, Ba, Cisse, hell even Berba round that price and still be more effective than Defoe. Defoe excellent finisher just doesn't understands that when we're 1-0 down he can make it 1-1 by passing it. He'll still choose to shoot when he's completely blocked off from goal.

It's a complete myth that he's an excellent finisher.

His attempt in the first half was poor - it was an absolutely gilt-edged chance.

 

[tottenham28]

Didn't see the game, followed it on SC and I have to say that as usual this bi-polar thread made me chuckle. 1st half shit, we're gonna be mid table. Last 20 mins, holtby is world class, play like this were gonna be top four etc. classic!

Anyway, sounds like another performance highlighting the fact that without bale we are screwed.

At least holtby is a positive, sounds like a very astute signing.

Biggest dissapointment for me though is the lack of urgency. If we displayed the same commitment as Everton we'd finish top four IMO.

You didn't even see the game but you have quoted it in a nutshell! first hour was shite, far better last half hour. Main cause was clearly lack of commitment, effort, I just I can't be arsed or a mixture of the three if you like!
Holtby did look the nuts after coming on, the only player capable of playing first time quick balls without smashing them up field, very creative too.

Bale hardly did anything bar the goal, so I'd give that as your one weak call (although I do agree with your calls on us being screwed). Everton quote, If we were half way into their mindset we would be running away with fourth if not third by now.

Great post mate.

 

[punkisback]

AVB on SSN post-match again saying we will take the risk with the strikers we have! AAAAAARGH

Don't believe anything he says, he knows not to talk about our transfers to the pres.

 

[heythisisjay]

If he says we are in need of a striker, the price of every striker would go up a few million. Wouldn't be suprised if we buy someone tomorrow and announce that Defoe will be having an operation. They probably patched him up to disguise the fact that we are desperate.......but then again, probably not!!

I wish I could agree with you. But sadly I have more negative disposition. It will be very sad if the only movements are transfers/loans out and nothing in. It will be overwhelmingly depressing for everyone, and we will soldier on as fans..

 

[sebo_sek]

I'd took Benteke, Damaio, Ba, Cisse, hell even Berba round that price and still be more effective than Defoe. Defoe excellent finisher just doesn't understands that when we're 1-0 down he can make it 1-1 by passing it. He'll still choose to shoot when he's completely blocked off from goal.

How is Damiao on that list? The rest were bargains when first bought but LD would cost around 25million. Although I agree with what you're saying. Hiwever Bale doesn't get the shit Defoe does, but has the same limitation in front of goal - and doesn't score more.

 

[shaqTHFC]

How is Damiao on that list? The rest were bargains when first bought but LD would cost around 25million. Although I agree with what you're saying. Hiwever Bale doesn't get the shit Defoe does, but has the same limitation in front of goal - and doesn't score more.

Bale is a winger and Defoe is a striker.

 

[Gib14]

My 5 year old daughter has outgrown Defoe!!

Positives though, ALWAYS look for the positives. ONLY Everton have gained points on us tonight. I know it's not much (& seeing as I'm still playing 'catch up' on the thread), but we have at least played SHIT and come away with something from the game. If United or City did this, we'd be listening to people saying "It's a sign of a good team when they play shit but get something from the game).. See, that's really 2 positives I've provided there. And I've not even mentioned the positive (but probably total bullshit) ITK stuff (well I have mentioned it now, but you get my point)..

We ain't dead yet brother Yiddo

U are a better man than me. I don't see the positives. A huge huge missed opportunity again. 3 draws in a row and a loss in the FA cup is not a good run. The other 2 teams u mentioned above would not let that happen but that is why we will fight for 4th and they will be first and second.

 

[WiganSpur]

Defoe just simply isn't good enough to be a regular starter for a team aiming to be Champions League regulars. The last few games have proved that. He's capable of a good run or two but he's just not consistent enough over a season and when he's bad, he's really bad. He simply cannot play on his own and him and Ade doesn't seem to work either. He's best as an impact sub IMO. We really need another complete forward, but AVB needs to realise that playing Adebayor in front of a no 10 (Holtby/Sig) could just be the best option going forward.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Don't believe anything he says, he knows not to talk about our transfers to the pres.

nope I think he is telling the truth. I'm sure he would like a decent striker who itsnt a selfish greedy shit but reading between the lines to me it seems more like Levy isnt willing to take the risk and is happy not to spend big on a striker this window

we wont be signing a striker tomorrow

 

[Gib14]

Don't believe anything he says, he knows not to talk about our transfers to the pres.

Don't get your hopes up

 

[sebo_sek]

Bale is a winger and Defoe is a striker.

Which sadly works horribly against him. His PRIORITY should be to pass. Defoe's priority should be to shoot.

 

[MikeCOYS]

OK Dempsey VS holtby. Dempsey had 24Passes During the hole game! does anyone think that is good or what? Holtby was on the pitch 22min But makes 25passes. Come on Open your eyes. Can someone understand my frustration?? Dempsey is a bad player and nothing that me or you as a Spurs supporter Should be proud of.

I disagree. Dempsey isn't a bad player. People forget how much effort he puts in compare to the rest of the team. He may not be a superstar, but like Parker: not a superstar but does his job well consistently (well... almost).

Dempsey had chipped in a fair amount of vital goals this season and some quality assists as well. Whether Dempsey can reproduce his fine form with Fulham for us we shall find out with plentiful of games remaining.

TBH, until Holtby's appearance, I'd say Dempsey and Defoe were the best combo upfront. Now, it's a tough one because I want Dempsey upfront as I think he'll do well with Holtby. However, with the selfish-Defoe and Holtby, that might not be too bad as well. Holtby is unselfish and Defoe may thrive with the chances Holtby creates.

But would it be better than Dempsey and Holtby? Where both of them can assist each other as well as others around them like Lennon, Bale or even Dembele. IDK, hard choice IMO. Guess we'll wait and see next game against West Brom. Also perfect time as well to play away to them since they've just lost XD

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Damn straight Coop. Bassong was a good player and we , both club and fans, conveniently forgot how good he had been and gave up on him. But fans are fickle by nature and such things happen. For our management team to act that way is a bit shit.

And here I was thinking I'm the only crazy bastard here tonight!!.. Loathe him or love him, Bassong has now booked a place in the THFC history books. Here's the killer though mate, HE DESERVES IT!!

 

[Sarsipius]

Regarding Defoe, I don't think it's so simple just to love him or hate him. The types of goals he can score can't be dismissed however much we all bemoan his inability to spot a pass or even attempt one, usually.

I'm guessing therefore that he's under instruction to shoot on site. Otherwise, you'd have AVB screaming at him from the sidelines and hauling him off at half-time. Which he never is.

 

[Nocando]

Does anyone remember the lead up to the goal. Was it quick one touch passing between Holtby, Defoe and Bale, that sent Bale off?

 

[Dempsey2]

Count me out of your little group. Dempsey has scored quite often for a bad player and especially when playing with a partner who has tunnel vision.

It's no coincidence Dempsey plays horribly when hooking up with Defoe. Ever since the start of the season I've always wanted to see Adebayor and Dempsey hook up, but he's NEVER gotten that chance, now someone else will get the chance, and look better than him, simply cause he's never played with someone he can link up with. It's such a shame and a waste of a player and he's playing badly at Spurs but only cause he doesn't have a big man to play off of. His world-class form came with ZAMORA up top ffs, now imagine an upgrade on that.


Edit to add:

It's only so frustrating to a US fan like me, who's followed Dempsey all his career, get insulted left and right only cause his partner is a selfish bastard, harming the team in the process, and harming Clint's chances as well. And only SIX months into the season are people seeing what I've been seeing since the beginning. But by now it's too late, a new signing everyone's fallen in love with has been introduced, and there goes his chance.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Fully agree, we are still 4th so it is in our hands. To be fair some of the results recently we played well just nowhere near clinical enough. Just the last 2 games were pretty crap, but every team has some bad form. If we can hit a winning run from this position we still have every chance of champions league. Just hope Levy invests where we need it to increase that chance.

Obviously I agree. I'll go a step further & say that Man Utd have been 'ordinary' at best, this season. You know what? So have we! Yet, as you rightly say, we are still in 4th......

Makes you wonder what we could do with a 'proper' striker & a good old fashioned kick up the arse.

 

[dwayne-mooney]

Which sadly works horribly against him. His PRIORITY should be to pass. Defoe's priority should be to shoot.

I watched the game and we probably deserved a draw in the end but its wasnt great.
I'm annoyed a club the size of ours is forced to play an injured, out of form striker because we have no other options.

I firmly believe we wont get top 4 without buying a striker tomorrow which I dont think we will.
I feel sorry for AVB, he has very few options in the midfield and wings (if any) and no forward options up top aside from Clint who is not what is required.

Holtby looked great, its amazing what happens when a player makes himself available all the time but the added class was clearly evident.

One quick question, would Ade or Defoe make the first 11 for Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea or Man City? Possibly Arsenal but then Walcott will outscore both of them, hes a great finisher in my opinion.

 

[MikeCOYS]

Im not saying Defoe doesnt need replacing. All those strikers you have mentioned, no chance of getting in this window

Not saying we'll get any of them but saying it'd be good to have any one of them. As it'd improve our team nonetheless.

How is Damiao on that list? The rest were bargains when first bought but LD would cost around 25million. Although I agree with what you're saying. Hiwever Bale doesn't get the shit Defoe does, but has the same limitation in front of goal - and doesn't score more.

Damaio is on the list because we apparently offered £15mil (Daily Mail). But if we're lucky we might get him for that price plus a player. We're partnered clubs so perhaps it can be done (optimistic but I can only hope). But knowing Levy...
Bale shouldn't score more. He's a winger, not a striker. It's natural for them to chip in goals but not our main goal threat. There aren't many wingers in the PL that has scored as much as Bale, or any in fact?

 

[Huddlebone]

I disagree. Dempsey isn't a bad player. People forget how much effort he puts in compare to the rest of the team. He may not be a superstar, but like Parker: not a superstar but does his job well consistently (well... almost).

Dempsey had chipped in a fair amount of vital goals this season and some quality assists as well. Whether Dempsey can reproduce his fine form with Fulham for us we shall find out with plentiful of games remaining.

TBH, until Holtby's appearance, I'd say Dempsey and Defoe were the best combo upfront. Now, it's a tough one because I want Dempsey upfront as I think he'll do well with Holtby. However, with the selfish-Defoe and Holtby, that might not be too bad as well. Holtby is unselfish and Defoe may thrive with the chances Holtby creates.

But would it be better than Dempsey and Holtby? Where both of them can assist each other as well as others around them like Lennon, Bale or even Dembele. IDK, hard choice IMO. Guess we'll wait and see next game against West Brom. Also perfect time as well to play away to them since they've just lost XD

Mate in the role that Dempsey has like a Nr10 u need to Love to make assists and always try to make the players around u better. But Dempsey are not good enough to be that player. And Yes he works hard but he is so slow that his shadow runs past him.. If u know fotball u need to see that he is always two steps behind in the press, just like Livermore cant handle the tempo.