Paul #Pogba

[the yid]

And Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira were nothing special in Serie A

Void point Pogbas been average here where the others class! I'm not saying he's shit he's a good player but that is it amd that's my opinion on him which is based off of watching him in about 30 games! Think he has the odd moments of class but mostly just average and for the fee that he was bought for Utd could've got 3 or 4 players just as good! Wouldn't have him over Alli Dembele Dier or Wanyama and they cost a combined £35m

 

[SUIYHA]

Unfortunately I have to agree with @SpursDave88 I have seen Pogba play about 30 times and never seen anything to warrant this reputation he has! Never seen him boss a game! Never seen him boss a midfield! He will ping a 40 yarder in top bins once every 20 games and people rave! He is a £20m player! Poor business by Utd when you think of Wanyama bossing it he cost £11m Pogbas been bang average for £90m! If Utd stopped chasing "big names" and were smart with there money they'd be dangerous

Same here how many games of his do I have to watch to see this 'genius'. He was awful for France in the Euro's, Sissoko was miles better, he has played maybe 2 goodish games for United so far out of a few dozen, he doesn't dominate a midfield, his passing is bang average mostly but he can be effective on occasion around the box so for me it's like a 2nd rate Lampard thus far.

Maybe he will become a genius and the best player in the world but he needs to massively improve. Let's not forget Lamela killed the Italian league with Roma and we paid a hefty £30 million a few seasons ago.

Alli is 20 in his second season at top level and he just gets better and better, his movement and control are brilliant. Pogba has it all to prove and at the moment Pogba would not get in our first 11, De Bruye would, Sanchez would, Coutinho would, Hazard would but Pogba no.

He definitely bossed Dembele and Wanyama last month and there are very few players who can say they've done that.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

He definitely bossed Dembele and Wanyama last month and there are very few players who can say they've done that.

That was Herrera, and we where poor that day, Pogba was alright that match but Herrera and Miktaryian where the players who caused us problems and not just the goal. Herrera has been arguably United's best player this season although Zlatlan might make a case.

 

[Shadydan]

Void point Pogbas been average here where the others class! I'm not saying he's shit he's a good player but that is it amd that's my opinion on him which is based off of watching him in about 30 games! Think he has the odd moments of class but mostly just average and for the fee that he was bought for Utd could've got 3 or 4 players just as good! Wouldn't have him over Alli Dembele Dier or Wanyama and they cost a combined £35m

Pogba's only been here 5 months, it took Henry and a similar amount of times to finally settle into Arsenal and the rigours of the Premiership, it took Luis Suarez a season. If we're going to give our players who have come from overseas time to adapt to the league then it's only right we do the same for others.

 

[the yid]

Pogba's only been here 5 months, it took Henry and a similar amount of times to finally settle into Arsenal and the rigours of the Premiership, it took Luis Suarez a season. If we're going to give our players who have come from overseas time to adapt to the league then it's only right we do the same for others.

That's your opinion I respect that don't think he's anywhere the same league as those players! In my opinion United over paid for a good player at best! Just giving my view of him I've seen him play a lot and I haven't seen anything for this reputation to be warranted! You obviously have to have your opinion of him so the issue comes down to consistency! To be at that level people claim he is he needs to consistently perform at the highest level but he's 24 now needs to sort it soon! So again in my opinion there's players just as good even arguably better for a lot less than they bought him for. He may well fulfill his potential and turn into a world beater definitely has the potential but he isn't there yet

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Have the FA charged him with violent conduct yet after his altercation with Henderson??

As for how good he is, he's a good player
Is he a great player? That remains to be seen...
Needs to spend as much time focussing on developing his game as he does developing his hairstyles and "brand".

 

[tiger666]

Have the FA charged him with violent conduct yet after his altercation with Henderson??

Don't be silly.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I can see most of the arguments against Pogba are based off of opinions handed down by the Media.

Do you guys even watch football or do you just zone out until there is a goal?

He was class for Juve, first alongside Pirlo and then later in his partnership with Dybala.

He may not warrant his transfer fee, but this is football and money aside he is a really good player.

If he can keep his head down and avoid the media and pundits who quite clearly expect him to play like Messi because of his fee he will be competing for the Ballon Dor in the next 3 years. Bale took a year and a half to settle into the Madrid side and he was ripped apart for those first 18 months. Money has a way of distorting the fan's views.

 

[Shadydan]

That's your opinion I respect that don't think he's anywhere the same league as those players! In my opinion United over paid for a good player at best! Just giving my view of him I've seen him play a lot and I haven't seen anything for this reputation to be warranted! You obviously have to have your opinion of him so the issue comes down to consistency! To be at that level people claim he is he needs to consistently perform at the highest level but he's 24 now needs to sort it soon! So again in my opinion there's players just as good even arguably better for a lot less than they bought him for. He may well fulfill his potential and turn into a world beater definitely has the potential but he isn't there yet

Exactly you said it yourself, people claim, if you listen to the opinion of people and the media generally they tend to overrate players, for me he's not a world class player but I think he'll get there eventually but I don't use his status to value his ability or the way he plays on the pitch. Also he was showing consistency at Juventus but again how can you expect him to show an level of consistency at Utd if he's just moved there, new team, new league, new role. etc?

Also we've covered why he cost that much money it's to do with his marketability not so much his ability, he's more than a player, he's a brand and Utd will make a lot more money off him in the long run and Juve will lose a lot of money which is why his fee was so high.

 

[DaiT]

Mentally he reminds me of Balotelli. If he sorts his brain out he will be a great PL player. If not he will be really brilliant one week and bang average the next.

 

[ohtottenham!]

Exactly you said it yourself, people claim, if you listen to the opinion of people and the media generally they tend to overrate players, for me he's not a world class player but I think he'll get there eventually but I don't use his status to value his ability or the way he plays on the pitch. Also he was showing consistency at Juventus but again how can you expect him to show an level of consistency at Utd if he's just moved there, new team, new league, new role. etc?

Also we've covered why he cost that much money it's to do with his marketability not so much his ability, he's more than a player, he's a brand and Utd will make a lot more money off him in the long run and Juve will lose a lot of money which is why his fee was so high.

Agree with most of your views, shady. One thing I’ve seen with Pogba over time is, he’s just really inconsistent. In his defence, there’s his youth, settling into a new country, new coach and team set up etc., But, think the really good, sometimes great players, are those who have a level of confidence, which means they generally don’t get shaken off their game. Pogba, imo, doesn’t have that.

Yesterday, he was wound up and motivated, a good thing, but he had way too much nervous energy, which actually became a liability. It means his head’s not in the game; his passes were off, poor reading of the game, not ready at critical times to see the game around him in defence or attack. Plenty of Utd games this season where he’s been pretty anonymous too.

Don’t want to be overly critical, because, sometimes he is unplayable. Problem is, it doesn’t happen nearly enough.

I'd honestly take Harry Winks over Pogba from what I've seen of both players over the last few months. Both have had different challenges placed in front of them. I'd definitely say one has an advantage in terms of raw ability, but the other never gets fazed, is always improving, and always has his head in the game in which he's playing.

 

[Nerine]

#pogshit

 

[Nerine]

And I'll reiterate Tyler's commentary burn during the game.

"He's made a right pogs ear of that.."


Pogba is fart, man.

Seems to be another Balotelli type.

Did he cost more than Bale? If the final figure was more then it's hilarious.

 

[Shadydan]

I love the references and comparisons to Balotelli, as far as lazy comparisons go that's up there with the best.

 

[Ribble]

I love the references and comparisons to Balotelli, as far as lazy comparisons go that's up there with the best.

Yep. Confidence in his own abilities to the point of arrogance are not the same as being properly emotionally unstable.

Watched Pogba for the best part of two seasons for Juve (although I didn't see much of his last there) and the amount of sheer raw talent the guy has stands out like a sore thumb. I think if anything what he needs right now is a role to focus on and make his own, rather than being bounced around purely because he can do so much, fortunately for him Mourinho seems to have settled on where and how he wants to play him. If he was at Spurs playing in the same kind of role as Alli he'd be banging them in too.

 

[Syn_13]

Watched him for years at Juve. Talented player but lacks discipline and consistency. Can prosuce a worldie but often fluffs lines trying to do it all game. He switches off for most games, a 20 minute performer, and can easily go about a month without having a good game. He as never as consistent or influential than Pirlo, Vidal, or Marchisio during his time there and right now Khedira and Pjanic are better for Juve than he was.

Sounds like I don't rate him at all or hated him there, but that's not the case. He did contribute and was a good player for us, but overhyped. He's got all the raw talents and just needs to find some proper consistency to his game and inprove his decision making. I reckon he'll come into his own when he matures towards his 30s, like Toure did.

 

[Armstrong_11]

Mentally he reminds me of Balotelli. If he sorts his brain out he will be a great PL player. If not he will be really brilliant one week and bang average the next.

Well said.

Progba has all the makings of being a great central midfielder, but he needs to focus on his football. Not sure if Jose is the man who can do that, he supports his players, but I always feel he is a one trick pony. If plan A doesn't work... Stick with it and hope it works out in the end.

 

[tiger666]

How was he last night?

 

[HildoSpur]

How was he last night?

Not very good at all. Underwhelming would be the term.

 

[PMS]

Played deep and played it safe.