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SirNiNyHotspur

23 Years of Property, Concerts, Karts & Losing
Apr 27, 2004
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I know any ref today and we probably would have lost that but this guy really is awful consistently for us, it’s not even the clear red, it’s the flow of the game, he’s seems to do his all to screw us over every time. What I mean by the flow of the game is when all the little calls go against you, most people let them go, they can often go unnoticed but completely effect the flow of the game ie when a Brighton tripped over his own legs after being closed down free-kick and an offensive position immediately flipped and turned into a defensive one, everyone having to run back, same example over and over, Pawson is so bad, he rarely gets the big calls right but even lesser so the little one’s, really is like playing against 12 with him every time.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Aug 8, 2010
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I thought he was fine, he did well to not let the crowd influence him into giving a soft second yellow to Mwepu. No need to blame the ref, we were shit today.
 

Wick3d

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Aug 31, 2012
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He was okay today, he bottled the red card though. He is so slow in his actions though, really grating. I prefer Mike Dean, he reaches for his card so quickly and presents it with such force :ROFLMAO: Pawson just strolls over and takes an age
 

JCRD

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Im not one to blame refs etc and youll be hard pressed for me to see the refs as the first port of call for a loss - which seems to be a norm when you read social media etc but actually he wasnt great today. He should have absolutely sent off Kulusevski and perhaps sent off Mwepu for the challenge late int he half on PEH (not the Davies one which wasnt)

Not aimed at the OP but we really need to stop blaming refs for losses/draws etc - its down to us to win not refs. Unless ofcourse it is a dodgy pen in the CL final.
 

cwy21

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May 11, 2009
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Considering Kulu could easily be facing a three-game suspension right now I don't know if blaming the refs is the way to come at today's poor performance.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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The only thing I can say is that there were massive inconsistencies between todays game and the Villa one. The Villa game was an absolute joke, way too much got let go. The only thing I can maybe say today was on the whole our players got cards a lot quicker then theirs. They def could and should have picked a few more yellows. But on the whole I don’t think one can really complain, Kulu should have got sent off really.
 
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wadewill

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Aug 31, 2005
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He was shit both ways

I have no idea how Kulu didn’t get sent off tbh
 

cwy21

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Some of you know I referee on the side and I do spend quite a bit of time on various ref forums and blogs. When VAR first started the common thing was we talked about how VAR would catch all of these elbows, forearms and kickouts. Most of you probably remember the mid 2010s when these innocuous kickouts and forearms to the head would be reds. It turns out instead of refs and VARs calling them reds, they just changed the standard to where something like what Kulu did was actually acceptable as a yellow, which seems crazy compared to five years ago.
 

g_harry

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Sep 27, 2005
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Was gonna post something similar. He wasn't reason we lost game today, but the refereeing displays in last 2 games make me question the integrity of league.
 

taidgh

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Aug 13, 2004
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I don't think Craig Pawson had a terrible game, but he didn't have a good one either. He's just another of the typical newer refs we see these days: competent, but ultimately unwilling to make the big decisions. It's an ongoing problem with almost every league in the world.
 

septicsac

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Jan 10, 2010
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Typical of the standard of refereeing in the premier league, sub standard, with just as sub standard performance from the VAR team, how Mason in the VAR booth let Kulu off with the elbow is beyond me.
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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Im not one to blame refs etc and youll be hard pressed for me to see the refs as the first port of call for a loss - which seems to be a norm when you read social media etc but actually he wasnt great today. He should have absolutely sent off Kulusevski and perhaps sent off Mwepu for the challenge late int he half on PEH (not the Davies one which wasnt)

Not aimed at the OP but we really need to stop blaming refs for losses/draws etc - its down to us to win not refs. Unless ofcourse it is a dodgy pen in the CL final.

The only reason Kulusevski didn't get sent off is that he didn't catch Cucurella in the face, and Cucurella didn't pretend that he'd caught in the face either. Kulusevski was obviously very frustrated and not surprisingly so since we were so pathetically slow trying to play out from the back.
 

Lifelong

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Aug 22, 2013
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Craig Pawson was definitely not the reason we lost today but there is no getting away with the fact that he, along with a few of his colleagues, really aren’t of the standard required to ref in the premier league. I ended up hating European football because of the quality of ref we had, and the lower the competition the worse it got, it’s getting the same with domestic football now. The standard of refereeing needs a massive shake up but I can’t see it happening anytime soon. VAR was introduced to improve it, I don’t think we’re seeing any sign of it yet.
 

Serpico

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Refs want to keep their decisions open to interpretation and too reliant on VAR so remove responsibility. They often lose control because they don’t set a marker. Refs are poor and are bias. Sometimes you need the ref to be strong , so often they are weak. Playing bad will lose you games , poor refs leave you frustrated and sometimes cheated.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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I thought he was fine, he did well to not let the crowd influence him into giving a soft second yellow to Mwepu. No need to blame the ref, we were shit today.
Mwepu should have gone as he clearly stamps on Hojbjerg foot. It’s a second yellow, certainly after a high foot challenge a minute before.
 
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