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ralvy

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I thought he was fine, he did well to not let the crowd influence him into giving a soft second yellow to Mwepu. No need to blame the ref, we were shit today.

The thing is, he gave us a very soft yellow while forgiving Kulu at the same time for what should have been a red card, which is the reason why the crowd turned against him and were demanding a yellow card for anything BHA did. It was completely his own doing.
 
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Serpico

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Mwepu should have gone as he clearly stamps on Hojbjerg foot. It’s a second yellow, certainly after a high foot challenge a minute before.

Steps on, not stamps. There is a difference.
The biggest statement, was taking Mwepu off at half time. The ref protected him up till that point which gave Brighton the opportunity to remove him (why would he do that). Pawson had lost authority in the game, he didn't set a marker, he's decisions were all over the place which meant he couldn't deal with Mwepu's petulance head on as it would contradict other decisions he hadn't made. For me there is something not right about him.
 

Serpico

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I thought he was fine, he did well to not let the crowd influence him into giving a soft second yellow to Mwepu. No need to blame the ref, we were shit today.
'shit' performances can still win games. Just because we were poor doesn't mean you should lose. Both teams should have been down to 10 men if the ref had balls. BHA were killing momentum(wasting time) whenever we had the ball and played when they had it. The ref was allowing this nonsense to carry on which creates a despondence in our players. BHA can only be as good, if we are so bad which IMO the ref contributed to this, with poor control of the game himself.
 

Serpico

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Refs and VAR need investigating. I’m not going to use the word corrupt as there is no proof. VAR (some bloke in a room miles away from the ground) does not make sense. VAR has made decision making worse, it sees what it wants to see. its a smoke screen. Because Certain situations warrant certain teams getting the ‘run of the ball’ VAR allows refs as Pawson to fudge the detail on their watch. Arsenal v Utd there were some odd decisions. Use v BHA again weird. I believe VAR was introduced to assist the big teams in their hour of need. It’s used without being transparent and properly challenged.

An example is offside and when the ball is released. It’s open to interpretation. You would need ‘photo finish’ tech to be 100%-
 

Tucker

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Refs and VAR need investigating. I’m not going to use the word corrupt as there is no proof. VAR (some bloke in a room miles away from the ground) does not make sense. VAR has made decision making worse, it sees what it wants to see. its a smoke screen. Because Certain situations warrant certain teams getting the ‘run of the ball’ VAR allows refs as Pawson to fudge the detail on their watch. Arsenal v Utd there were some odd decisions. Use v BHA again weird. I believe VAR was introduced to assist the big teams in their hour of need. It’s used without being transparent and properly challenged.

An example is offside and when the ball is released. It’s open to interpretation. You would need ‘photo finish’ tech to be 100%-
They are at the very least completely incompetent. There is a dearth of young refs coming through, so it ain’t gonna get better either. There’s not a single ref in the regular rotation that I trust to get things right or act fairly.

PGMOL need disbanding and replacing with something new, something with much greater transparency.
 

Serpico

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They are at the very least completely incompetent. There is a dearth of young refs coming through, so it ain’t gonna get better either. There’s not a single ref in the regular rotation that I trust to get things right or act fairly.

PGMOL need disbanding and replacing with something new, something with much greater transparency.
Being a ref is not that difficult IMO, if the rules are clear and discipline is stamped on. Example of a simple action ignored by the ref. Brentford using a towel to wipe the ball (I’m sure it’s not allowed) and then the same player running onto the pitch before releasing the ball on throw ins. By refs ignoring the simple things how can they deal with the big calls and expect respect.

We play Liverpool (chasing the PL title) watch how we are on the wrong end of decisions. Liverpool 100% will not lose to a last minute pen.
 

Tucker

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Being a ref is not that difficult IMO, if the rules are clear and discipline is stamped on. Example of a simple action ignored by the ref. Brentford using a towel to wipe the ball (I’m sure it’s not allowed) and then the same player running onto the pitch before releasing the ball on throw ins. By refs ignoring the simple things how can they deal with the big calls and expect respect.

We play Liverpool (chasing the PL title) watch how we are on the wrong end of decisions. Liverpool 100% will not lose to a last minute pen.
I think it’s a harder job than you think. Keeping check in discipline, trying to see what’s actually happening while the game is going 100mph and dealing with play acting players. It’s a bit like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.
 

Serpico

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I think it’s a harder job than you think. Keeping check in discipline, trying to see what’s actually happening while the game is going 100mph and dealing with play acting players. It’s a bit like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.
I can do that
 

Serpico

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I think it’s a harder job than you think. Keeping check in discipline, trying to see what’s actually happening while the game is going 100mph and dealing with play acting players. It’s a bit like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.
VAR was the answer but it’s being used (purposely IMO) incorrectly and inconsistently to overshadow refs rather than compliment. The inconsistency is there to confuse us all (smoke screen) - VAR is to control outcome rather than support fair play. It’s not rocket science.

Authorities don’t want it B &W because big clubs around Europe would loose their advantage.
 
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On a lighter note, every time I see him refereeing I get this in my head

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arthurgrimsdell

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They are at the very least completely incompetent. There is a dearth of young refs coming through, so it ain’t gonna get better either. There’s not a single ref in the regular rotation that I trust to get things right or act fairly.

PGMOL need disbanding and replacing with something new, something with much greater transparency.
There is absolutely no need for the PGMOL in football terms. It is merely a trade union. It should therefore be treated as such. It should be negotiating pay and conditions not running football. Referees have a duty to apply the Laws of the Game not to interpret them according to their own whim. It should have no power over the Laws of the Game, let alone the recent get-out-of-jail-free concept of additional "rules", which should not exist at all. Any necessary explanation of the Laws should be incorporated within them.
 

BPR_U16

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A number of PL refs retiring this season. Dean already hone, Atkinson and Moss going even seen Mariners name in one article.

Not saying they will all be a great loss, esp Moss, but not seen many decent ones stepping up. Standard already low, is it going to get worse.

Pawson i dont like, but there are worse than him.
 

spursfan77

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Another terrible performance in the Watford Burnley game. It is evident he relies on VAR to cover for his mistakes rather than officiating the game properly. It just shows how spineless he is.
 

Cochise

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Can we just rename the thread to Incompetent Premier League Referee's???

Michael Oliver was so fucking useless tonight, you could argue he was bent. Anyone else that incompetent at their job would be struck off. This **** will be back next week.
 
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