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spursfan77

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Don’t want to get into the habit of making comments on players based just off YouTube videos, but watching this vid really reminds me of Karim Adeyemi at Dortmund who I watch a lot.

Would be interesting to see if we get linked with Adeyemi as well in the next few weeks.

I wouldnt normally either but I thought it interesting his goals hadnt been posted in a thread about him.

Again, I'm not sure how much to put into the links anyway. I've a feeling he is a player Paratici likes and thats why we are being linked.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Look at this second goal for Bilbao from the weekend, on 34 seconds. Nico Williams assist. Osasuna have 9 players in their box defending. Williams takes on 2 defenders from a standing start, utilises 2 way close dribbling and acceleration to drive in to the box and square for a tap in. Williams can do this from both flanks too.




THIS is the exact type of profile winger that we are lacking imo.

If people who have watched a lot of Johnson think he can do that kind of thing regularly from either flank, then fair enough he could be great for us but from what I've seen I don't think Johnson is this kind of player.

As an aside, what I'd do for us to sign Nico Williams ffs. Still raw but man what a talent.

I know it’s well covered ground at this point but I honestly don’t get why we don’t go for him. The fact he is comfortable on ether wing as well.

You’re right he is still raw but so is Johnson and I just find Nico has significantly greater potential. I’d understand if Johnson was valued at £20-30 mil but considering he’d actually be more than Nico I’d be disappointed if/when we pass on him.
 

King of the Lane

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I know it’s well covered ground at this point but I honestly don’t get why we don’t go for him. The fact he is comfortable on ether wing as well.

You’re right he is still raw but so is Johnson and I just find Nico has significantly greater potential. I’d understand if Johnson was valued at £20-30 mil but considering he’d actually be more than Nico I’d be disappointed if/when we pass on him.

He is literally the winger thats perfect for our new system. I cant see why we would target Johnson over him unless HG is an issue.
 

Flobadob

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He’s quick, he’s got good crossing and an eye for goal. Generally his technique when striking the ball is classy, whether it be passing, crossing or shooting. I can see why some would look at him and rate him but the bulk of our wingers work is going to be out wide facing the fullback 1v1 and finding a way through a packed deep sitting defence. This is where someone like Solomon made fantastic sense because he’ll do great at both those things. When it comes to Johnson though I think you’re clearly looking at two of his glaring weaknesses in dealing with those situations. I get why some would rate him but it’s really obvious he’s not a good fit at all if you’ve watched enough of him and his data backs that up too
 

Cochise

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As much as I like Deki, he's not comfortable on his right and will always want to cut in. Johnson and Solomon would give us two wingers who are very comfortable going on the outside of their man and give teams more to think about.

Not that I don't like the idea of Williams btw. He would be an outstanding signing, but I'd be surprised if he left Spain.
 

Col_M

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Jonathan Margolis at the FT rates Brennan i see

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kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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He’s quick, he’s got good crossing and an eye for goal. Generally his technique when striking the ball is classy, whether it be passing, crossing or shooting. I can see why some would look at him and rate him but the bulk of our wingers work is going to be out wide facing the fullback 1v1 and finding a way through a packed deep sitting defence. This is where someone like Solomon made fantastic sense because he’ll do great at both those things. When it comes to Johnson though I think you’re clearly looking at two of his glaring weaknesses in dealing with those situations. I get why some would rate him but it’s really obvious he’s not a good fit at all if you’ve watched enough of him and his data backs that up too

Not sure I buy the thinking that the majority of times our wingers are going to be in that crowded area, 1v1 scenario.

our midfield now has the ability to break the lines, draw players out, disrupt the shape. Even how we play out from the back encourages teams to come out.

watching Bayern Munich the other night they dominate the ball but when you look at there wingers/wide forwards they get them in alot of space, they don’t have to do anything amazing to get in behind. Just a decent touch and pace. Musiala breaks the lines in midfield brilliantly, drawing players out. I do think you need 1v1 dribbling ability but It doesn’t always have to be out wide. I think as long we have that in midfield and full back it will create the space further forward for just pace and passing ability to cause damage(actually think Johnson is decent 1v1 anyway) and I think we’ve seen that in these two games. The bigger problem has been the lack of pace and getting in behind on the outside

I think if we had Skipp and PEH in midfield and full backs who were predictable then by the time you’ve worked the ball up then the opposition are probably set, so you probably need that extra magic.
 

Flobadob

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Not sure I buy the thinking that the majority of times our wingers are going to be in that crowded area, 1v1 scenario.

our midfield now has the ability to break the lines, draw players out, disrupt the shape. Even how we play out from the back encourages teams to come out.

watching Bayern Munich the other night they dominate the ball but when you look at there wingers/wide forwards they get them in alot of space, they don’t have to do anything amazing to get in behind. Just a decent touch and pace. Musiala breaks the lines in midfield brilliantly, drawing players out. I do think you need 1v1 dribbling ability but It doesn’t always have to be out wide. I think as long we have that in midfield and full back it will create the space further forward for just pace and passing ability to cause damage(actually think Johnson is decent 1v1 anyway) and I think we’ve seen that in these two games. The bigger problem has been the lack of pace and getting in behind on the outside

I think if we had Skipp and PEH in midfield and full backs who were predictable then by the time you’ve worked the ball up then the opposition are probably set, so you probably need that extra magic.
Maybe you’re right and you do raise some good points and if it works out that way you’re probably right that someone like Johnson would probably suffice as he definitely has the pace and quality in his crossing, passing and finishing to cause damage. If it was my choice I’d go with the tricky technical speedster of a winger as I think it’s a more consistent way of creating chances than balls in behind but I can see where your logic is coming from. We’d need that midfield 3 of Sarr, Bissouma and Maddison to be the regular features though, with Bentancur and Lo Celso also supporting. The likes of Skipp and Hojbjerg aren’t really suited to that responsibility of consistently breaking the lines with ball carrying or even passing tbh
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Maybe you’re right and you do raise some good points and if it works out that way you’re probably right that someone like Johnson would probably suffice as he definitely has the pace and quality in his crossing, passing and finishing to cause damage. If it was my choice I’d go with the tricky technical speedster of a winger as I think it’s a more consistent way of creating chances than balls in behind but I can see where your logic is coming from. We’d need that midfield 3 of Sarr, Bissouma and Maddison to be the regular features though, with Bentancur and Lo Celso also supporting. The likes of Skipp and Hojbjerg aren’t really suited to that responsibility of consistently breaking the lines with ball carrying or even passing tbh

You need the pace AND the trickery if you want to be a complete team.

Players like Johnson will limit the ceiling of our team and how far we can develop.
 

Flobadob

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You need the pace AND the trickery if you want to be a complete team.

Players like Johnson will limit the ceiling of our team and how far we can develop.
I agree with you but the guy I was replying to made some decent points about our midfield possibly opening up a greater amount of space for the likes of Son and Johnson to run behind. Like you though I’d prefer a more complete winger technically because we are more often than not going to require that technical ability rather than pace on the counter. We will dominate the ball in most matches this season and will likely often face teams that know they need to get organised in transition quickly. Brentford did this excellently tbh and it really stifled us. I was crying out for Solomon and Lo Celso to be brought on tbh
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Maybe you’re right and you do raise some good points and if it works out that way you’re probably right that someone like Johnson would probably suffice as he definitely has the pace and quality in his crossing, passing and finishing to cause damage. If it was my choice I’d go with the tricky technical speedster of a winger as I think it’s a more consistent way of creating chances than balls in behind but I can see where your logic is coming from. We’d need that midfield 3 of Sarr, Bissouma and Maddison to be the regular features though, with Bentancur and Lo Celso also supporting. The likes of Skipp and Hojbjerg aren’t really suited to that responsibility of consistently breaking the lines with ball carrying or even passing tbh

If you can find that elite pace and dribbling ability as well as end product in the one player then that would be great, but the likelihood is they’re going to be short in some areas. What we lack more than anything as a team attacking wise Is top end pace, personally I’d rather go that way. If you want the come towards the ball low centre of gravity dribbler, jinky type winger then maybe Solomon fits more into that profile. I think we’ve got the players to create the space now I don’t think we have people to really take advantage of it. It will help Richarlison to have someone who runs in behind and plays an early cross.
 
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kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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I agree with you but the guy I was replying to made some decent points about our midfield possibly opening up a greater amount of space for the likes of Son and Johnson to run behind. Like you though I’d prefer a more complete winger technically because we are more often than not going to require that technical ability rather than pace on the counter. We will dominate the ball in most matches this season and will likely often face teams that know they need to get organised in transition quickly. Brentford did this excellently tbh and it really stifled us. I was crying out for Solomon and Lo Celso to be brought on tbh

I think even the second half of the Brentford game there was still space to get in behind but Son comes towards the ball more now and obviously drifts in. There were opportunities for kulu but again he doesn’t have the change of pace and comes in on his left. all about opinions but still think Johnson would of created problems for Brentford that half.
 

matty74

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I think even the second half of the Brentford game there was still space to get in behind but Son comes towards the ball more now and obviously drifts in. There were opportunities for kulu but again he doesn’t have the change of pace and comes in on his left. all about opinions but still think Johnson would of created problems for Brentford that half.
Gio and Soloman would both have caused Brentford problems especially in last 25-30 minutes when Brentford basically sat back in there own half and only threatened on break we had 70 plus % possession
 

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I would welcome this move. Gives us something different with pace and directness - if you look at our bench on Sunday the only possible attacking changes were Perisic or Solomon. I trust Ange and the scouts on this one. 8 goals in 33 league starts when he was 21 - it’s not too dissimilar to what Son was doing in Germany at the same age. Plenty of room for development under the right manager, hopefully he can grow into a star if we sign him.
 

funkycoldmedina

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Unlike others i really rate him.
Certainly not at £50 million but I definitely think he’s a good player.
He's got explosive pace with pretty good control. I can see why Ange thinks he has the raw materials for a place in his team. A lot depends on whether he's an intelligent player who can take on Ange's instruction
 

jpascavitz

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Always the more likely to happen. As much as I want Orban, Johnson is HG and it seems that we can include one of our unwanted players in the deal - that would never happen to Gent.

He can cover RW and ST and it seems like we're pretty crowded up front with options due to the versatility of our players.

LW: Son, Solomon, Perisic, Gil
ST: Richarlison, Johnson, Son
RW: Kulusevski, Solomon, Johnson, Gil

Still wouldn't surprise me if Gil headed out but we shall see. Re: Johnson - anyone knows how his finishing is?
 
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