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[blankom]

I hear that Barca cannot afford to sign him, so they will get him on loan for this season, and sign him next season ?

 

[Stamford]

I hear that Barca cannot afford to sign him, so they will get him on loan for this season, and sign him next season ?

From whom?

 

[spursfan77]

After reading the itk thread I’m left wondering, why is it always us that has to get caught up in deals with fuckloads of red tape.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. And unfortunately you're just wrong. I deal on a daily basis with CEOs and MDs who have moved to and from companies and I know their sort.

You don't print everything out at 4:07pm on your last day. And you don't necessarily print without renaming the file first.

Any more things that anyone has no clue about that they would like to put forward that they do? Oh yes, of course, because internet.

Not sure you can say that I don't know what I'm talking about without having any idea of the positions I've held or the company I own and how we operate?....
Anything that any employee of my company accesses, alters, saves, makes a copy of, prints, mails, ftps or downloads is recorded, with us having data leakage alerts set up via our internal security software that is specifically looking for employees trying to move info out of the company (looking for key words within the documents, doc types (i.e. somebody thinking they can get away with saving/printing as a picture, etc).

Of course people will always find a way to get info out of a company if they try very hard to do so, but it does require a long run up and really the individual would have to start doing this a long while before they were thinking of leaving so that it looked 'normal'.

Perhaps Paratici went to the lengths of printing out every single contract at the time is was agreed and removing them from the office and storing at home? Or perhaps every time a contract was agreed he pulled it up on his work machine and took a photo on his personal phone of every page on the screen (note that my traders, legal team and trade support aren't allowed personal phones at work and everything on their work phone is recorded). Bringing a personal device in is a sackable offence and anyone caught leaking data is sacked and potentially prosecuted. If he has done this though then he isn't a person that I would want working at THFC and if THFC are found to be acting on information that has come from somewhere other than Paratici's head then the company (THFC) will be held responsible as well as Paratici himself. Personally I don't see Levy operating like that. If any of my senior employees came to me with documented info on deals they did at previous organisations I would sack and report them. The consequences of not doing so are too great now.

I don't doubt that Paratici will know the ins and outs of the Romero deal seeing as he did that deal only a year ago. I just don't buy that he has a copy of every deal he did at Juventus saved off somewhere.

 

[tiger666]

From whom?

Twitter by any chance?

 

[Duskwen]

Doesn't help Atalanta. For him to go on loan, they'd have to buy him so 17m, but they won't get anything this season, so a loss during the pandemic still.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

Or you just stick loads of stuff on memory sticks, which is what I did when I was made 'redundant'.

Sounds like some companies need to reconsider their IT budget

Hopefully THFC's set up is a lot more professional.

 

[bombarda]

After reading the itk thread I’m left wondering, why is it always us that has to get caught up in deals with fuckloads of red tape.

Pretty sure it’s the same for all clubs, you’re just paying a lot more attention to deals involving Tottenham

 

[blankom]

From whom?

Mundo Deportivo, dont know how reliable it is

 

[Wick3d]

After reading the itk thread I’m left wondering, why is it always us that has to get caught up in deals with fuckloads of red tape.

This deal is complicated as the player we want is not owned by the club we are currently negotiating with. That alone makes it a little bit more complicated.

 

[nialsy2005]

Isn't he on loan to atalanta for 2 years? And only they can exercise the cause that makes it permanent? If so, how can he go on loan to barca? Anyone that really thinks they'll buy him, then loan him to barca for a year when we're willing to splash 50m now i swear is just looking for negatives for the sake of it

 

[spanners]

After reading the itk thread I’m left wondering, why is it always us that has to get caught up in deals with fuckloads of red tape.

I don't expect it is always us but it sure as hell feels like it.

 

[Dakes]

Apparently Atalanta was a strong, athletic character from Greek mythology who had taken a virginity oath. She dealt with a couple of centaurs who tried to break that oath and would challenge any man wishing to marry her to a race. If they won, she was theirs. If they lost, they would be killed.

It wasn’t until Hippomenes – the grandson of Poseidon – that she would be beaten, distracted by some delicious apples that were thrown in her way by Aphrodite. Anyway, to avoid straying further off-topic, Atalanta wouldn’t make it on to the badge of this club until decades later, but her name remained in more ways than one, as the club came to be known as La Dea – The Goddess.

Maybe we should throw in a few Apple gadgets into the deal to distract Atalanta from moving the goalposts.

 

[Gingernut]

Not sure you can say that I don't know what I'm talking about without having any idea of the positions I've held or the company I own and how we operate?....
Anything that any employee of my company accesses, alters, saves, makes a copy of, prints, mails, ftps or downloads is recorded, with us having data leakage alerts set up via our internal security software that is specifically looking for employees trying to move info out of the company (looking for key words within the documents, doc types (i.e. somebody thinking they can get away with saving/printing as a picture, etc).

Of course people will always find a way to get info out of a company if they try very hard to do so, but it does require a long run up and really the individual would have to start doing this a long while before they were thinking of leaving so that it looked 'normal'.

Perhaps Paratici went to the lengths of printing out every single contract at the time is was agreed and removing them from the office and storing at home? Or perhaps every time a contract was agreed he pulled it up on his work machine and took a photo on his personal phone of every page on the screen (note that my traders, legal team and trade support aren't allowed personal phones at work and everything on their work phone is recorded). Bringing a personal device in is a sackable offence and anyone caught leaking data is sacked and potentially prosecuted. If he has done this though then he isn't a person that I would want working at THFC and if THFC are found to be acting on information that has come from somewhere other than Paratici's head then the company (THFC) will be held responsible as well as Paratici himself. Personally I don't see Levy operating like that. If any of my senior employees came to me with documented info on deals they did at previous organisations I would sack and report them. The consequences of not doing so are too great now.

I don't doubt that Paratici will know the ins and outs of the Romero deal seeing as he did that deal only a year ago. I just don't buy that he has a copy of every deal he did at Juventus saved off somewhere.

But it really doesn't take much I'm afraid - most companies do not have systems in place that monitors when someone "accesses, alters, saves, makes a copy of, prints, mails, ftps or downloads". In some highly sensitive/secure companies e.g. banks etc yes but a vast majority no! FYI - I know of listed businesses in the 1-20billion revenue USD range that do not do that.

What is to stop someone taking a photo on his phone of the screen? - doesn't take much forethought to do that - check out Hancock and his snog on CCTV as an example.

A football club paying to track this information - no chance in my opinion.

 

[Gingernut]

Sounds like some companies need to reconsider their IT budget

Hopefully THFC's set up is a lot more professional.

IT is an afterthought for many many huge organisations - including the UK government

 

[thekneaf]

But it really doesn't take much I'm afraid - most companies do not have systems in place that monitors when someone "accesses, alters, saves, makes a copy of, prints, mails, ftps or downloads". In some highly sensitive/secure companies e.g. banks etc yes but a vast majority no! FYI - I know of listed businesses in the 1-20billion revenue USD range that do not do that.

What is to stop someone taking a photo on his phone of the screen? - doesn't take much forethought to do that - check out Hancock and his snog on CCTV as an example.

A football club paying to track this information - no chance in my opinion.

This has gone wildly off track, but I think contracts are not just "files". In any decently run company they should be limited in their distribution and yes, monitored. That's not the same as saying all documents and slides, or decks, or WIP reports are tracked. Contracts are the special sauce, you lock that down.

 

[AJW]

Romano gone live on Twitch. Says will be a Romero update

 

[Cornpattbuck]

I'll be completely honest, this contract security conversation is about as exciting as every game that Spurs went one-nil up in the first five minutes last season...

 

[Cavehillspur]

If there is any truth in the Barca rumours then surely his head will be turned.

 

[the yid]

Romano gone live on Twitch. Says will be a Romero update

Bet he says talks continue