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Japhet

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100% agree, but it's been made the issue as so many saying it's 100% red. I said the same that he needs to control himself in certain situations. The lack of depth isn't his fault, that's down to levy or someone in charge not bringing in someone better than what we have.

Hopefully early January and we sort this issue anyway.

I hope we bring someone in early too. It isn't Romero's fault we're short but it's bloody irresponsible of him to behave like that when he's fully aware of the situation. Once the cover is in it's a different matter but we could easily be facing another 4 games now with Emerson and Davies at CB for no good reason.
 

glacierSpurs

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I think most people will see what they want to see from it by now, but when I watched it back seeing the angle where Wilson rolls the ball away, then Romero slips. You can see why it wasn't given as a red or seen as reckless.

No doubt he needs to not keep putting himself in these positions but I can see the reason he didnt go from that angle.

TBH, the challenge from joelinton on Porro needs to be discussed as much as, if not more, than Romero's challenge. Joelinton could have paralysed Porro there. Don't know if even a red card will be enough.
 

Cornpattbuck

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TBH, the challenge from joelinton on Porro needs to be discussed as much as, if not more, than Romero's challenge. Joelinton could have paralysed Porro there. Don't know if even a red card will be enough.

That Joelinton one would be a red card in rugby due to the intent and danger level, and yet no one has even mentioned it generally.

It wasn't the only time he threw himself in late either but that was the one where our player was in the air and unable to defend himself or control his landing.

Huge inconsistency in what gets called out as dangerous play at the mo... 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

Japhet

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That Joelinton one would be a red card in rugby due to the intent and danger level, and yet no one has even mentioned it generally.

It wasn't the only time he threw himself in late either but that was the one where our player was in the air and unable to defend himself or control his landing.

Huge inconsistency in what gets called out as dangerous play at the mo... 🤷🏼‍♂️

Quite bizarre really that you get a yellow card if you go through the back of a player's legs, but nothing if you go through the back of his neck. As you say, that challenge is a red card in rugby, and rightly so.
 

Gbspurs

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That Joelinton one would be a red card in rugby due to the intent and danger level, and yet no one has even mentioned it generally.

It wasn't the only time he threw himself in late either but that was the one where our player was in the air and unable to defend himself or control his landing.

Huge inconsistency in what gets called out as dangerous play at the mo... 🤷🏼‍♂️
It's a stupid thing in football but Porro here is a victim of his one toughness. He got pretty much straight back up and ran it off. If he'd have stayed down VAR would have had a long hard look at it. This is one of the things the game needs to sort.

Similar with the Guimares "headbutt". If Bissouma went down after that it's a Red card. 9/10 the refs base their decision on the consequence or reaction of a foul.

I'm convinced that Royal wouldn't have got sent off against Arsenal if Martinelli didn't scream loudly and roll around.
 

easley91

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It's a stupid thing in football but Porro here is a victim of his one toughness. He got pretty much straight back up and ran it off. If he'd have stayed down VAR would have had a long hard look at it. This is one of the things the game needs to sort.

Similar with the Guimares "headbutt". If Bissouma went down after that it's a Red card. 9/10 the refs base their decision on the consequence or reaction of a foul.

I'm convinced that Royal wouldn't have got sent off against Arsenal if Martinelli didn't scream loudly and roll around.
We didn't have Gary Neville going "oooooooooh" unfortunately.
 

Japhet

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It's a stupid thing in football but Porro here is a victim of his one toughness. He got pretty much straight back up and ran it off. If he'd have stayed down VAR would have had a long hard look at it. This is one of the things the game needs to sort.

Similar with the Guimares "headbutt". If Bissouma went down after that it's a Red card. 9/10 the refs base their decision on the consequence or reaction of a foul.

I'm convinced that Royal wouldn't have got sent off against Arsenal if Martinelli didn't scream loudly and roll around.

Can't say I'm a fan of punishments being influenced by player's acting ability. In fact, I'd welcome more punishment for all forms of simulation to try to weed out the cheating, and that includes acting up to try to get other players carded.
 

Spursmatty87

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I thought he slipped after the challenge personally. It is what it is. Totally unnecessary at any point really but a 3-0 up why give the ref a decision.
 

mattstev2000

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Great defender but a bit of a halfwit, having Emerson/Dier and Davies at the back for three games almost definitely cost us points and he nearly put us in that situation again. I thought the vice captaincy might make him grow up a bit but it doesn't seem to have.

Wouldn't be adverse to a more composed first choice RCB coming in and him rotating.
 

JimmyG2

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Like the boy (with reservations)
His composure on the ball
and the incisiveness of his short passing
are exemplary.
Tackling not so much
but I don't think he can help himself.
It's a trade-off which we will have to accept.
On balance I still like the boy
until the next red, obviously.
 

G Ron

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Is he also just a booking away from a 1 match ban?

I love the guy and his aggression - we look all over the place without him at the back. Need him to stay fit and stay out of trouble!
 

Ribble

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What's odd to me is that people (mostly the pundits) are completely ignoring the other player here. Wilson sold him him good & proper and it was momentum and more bad timing that meant he went into Wilson's back foot, not intent. It's one of those cases where the slowmo makes a split-second action look far worse, which is why all the refs are all saying one thing and the pundits the other.
 

$hoguN

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That tackle was never a red card. A fucking stupid yellow, absolutely. Red, only if you are Gary Neville who wants him sent off continuously but think Paul Scholes career Enders were fine
 

Trix

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Amazes me how fans look for excuses and reasons why their own teams players have been completely reckless, whilst condemning those from other teams for exactly the same things. It was yet another idiotic moment from Romero, and 100% in my mind should have been a red card. It really is as simple as that. It wasn't Wilson's fault, it wasn't bad luck, or a case that "he just slipped" it was moronic and dangerous and that's all there is to it.
 

philll

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Amazes me how fans look for excuses and reasons why their own teams players have been completely reckless, whilst condemning those from other teams for exactly the same things. It was yet another idiotic moment from Romero, and 100% in my mind should have been a red card. It really is as simple as that. It wasn't Wilson's fault, it wasn't bad luck, or a case that "he just slipped" it was moronic and dangerous and that's all there is to it.
It was a red and he got lucky, another ref on another day would've 100% sent him off and it wouldn't have been overturned and we'd be without him for the entire Christmas period. And as for the slip... the only thing I can see that could be interpreted as a slip was when he planted his foot on Wilson's ankle and pushed it away. I've not seen a single ex-player say it wasn't a red. We can talk about the opinions of ex-refs and ex-players but how many times have refs and VAR been criticised for making decisions that ex-players don't agree with and the line is "if you think that's a red/pen/whatever, you've never played the game"? Well, every single opinion I've seen from people who have played the game is that Romero should've been sent off.
 

easley91

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Amazes me how fans look for excuses and reasons why their own teams players have been completely reckless, whilst condemning those from other teams for exactly the same things. It was yet another idiotic moment from Romero, and 100% in my mind should have been a red card. It really is as simple as that. It wasn't Wilson's fault, it wasn't bad luck, or a case that "he just slipped" it was moronic and dangerous and that's all there is to it.
I think we can condemn him, as well as condemn Joelinton for his challenge on Porro (which could have been bad the way Porro hit the ground). It annoys me how no media outlet or pundit has seemingly picked up on it. We can also condemn Wilson for his moronic comments on his podcast re Richarlison previously and also his hypocritical lack of respect comments post match re Vicario.
 

Thenewcat

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Amazes me how fans look for excuses and reasons why their own teams players have been completely reckless, whilst condemning those from other teams for exactly the same things. It was yet another idiotic moment from Romero, and 100% in my mind should have been a red card. It really is as simple as that. It wasn't Wilson's fault, it wasn't bad luck, or a case that "he just slipped" it was moronic and dangerous and that's all there is to it.
Totally agree with the overall sentiment and 90% about this incident. It was definitely moronic and dangerous - there is simply no need to go in that hard in the situation - but for me it was one of those borderline calls that could have been red or yellow. I never felt it was going to be upgraded once the ref gave a yellow. It wasn’t a stamp, particularly high or a two footer (he clearly slips to bring the second foot into play). It was a fag paper away from being a 4 match ban when we could last afford it though
 
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