Think everything in football transfers is knee jerk tbh
Eric Dier
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Yep. Proves it is a team game.
acid-casual
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Yeah he's so shit that with him playing every game we've finished 3rd and then 2nd in the past 2 seasons. #clueless
isaac94
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Don't think anyone called him a shit player, but even as Spurs fans we cant deny he has been poor for England these past couple of games
tiger666
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You've got a serious chip on your shoulder.
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Or maybe Levy doesn't want to sell him as he's a key part of our first team.
nightgoat
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You really have trouble understanding what a range of passing is. Which is ironic, given how you brought all this up. His passing accuracy last season was up there with any PL player in a similar position, with the exception perhaps of Dembele. Oh yeah, you just spammed the guy who proved you wrong with stats last time...
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You're using a "passing accuracy" statistic to make a point about a player's "passing range".You really have trouble understanding what a range of passing is. Which is ironic, given how you brought all this up. His passing accuracy last season was up there with any PL player in a similar position, with the exception perhaps of Dembele. Oh yeah, you just spammed the guy who proved you wrong with stats last time...
Spam is all you're really worth.
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His lob through pass against Scotland on Saturday was a thing of beauty.
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Southgate has rubbish options at CM and deploys what he has woefully.
Both the formations he's played require 2 astute CMs who can first an foremost defend, defend space and free the FBs or WBs to bomb forward. Livermore - Dier is just way too basic. Dier - Oxlade is unbalanced because Ox lacks discipline to hold when the WB is ahead of him.
So basically, even Kante would look bang average played where and with who Dier has been.
Both the formations he's played require 2 astute CMs who can first an foremost defend, defend space and free the FBs or WBs to bomb forward. Livermore - Dier is just way too basic. Dier - Oxlade is unbalanced because Ox lacks discipline to hold when the WB is ahead of him.
So basically, even Kante would look bang average played where and with who Dier has been.
nightgoat
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I take it you didn't even bother to watch the video that clearly shows his range of passing. I'm not convinced you've even watched any full games as you haven't got a clue what you're on about, banging on about misplaced passes. Now you're going back on yourself like a dog trying to lick its own arse because you've been proved wrong.
Don't worry petal, it's not a threat to your masculinity to accept you're wrong. You clearly know it yourself, otherwise you'd have actually provided some kind of explanation or corroborating evidence to support your assertion that Dier's passing range is limited. Instead we'll just accept that you're wrong and leave it there.
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goughie1966
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As rumours gather pace about Dier going to Utd I popped on to Red Cafe to see if they could shed any light on the rumours:
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Would love him here. Going to be hard to buy a Spurs player though.
I don't like him, from the way he plays to his mug, can not stand.
Away from him being a block-headed cnut, I don't think he's very good. They don't really play in the same position either but I think Winks has more about him in terms of potential ability.
I think his passing is actually half decent. Not Carrick standard or the likes, but better than your average DM.
I like him, but it's his Spurs counter part we should of been after last summer (Wanyama)
He's not a very good CB. Certainly not better than Jones or Smalling. He's definitely not good enough for us as a CM.
Eric Dier has the most apt name in world football.
Would absolutely love him here. He's top top drawer. An player who would improve us greatly in midfield. But why would Levy sell one of his best players to us? Doesn't make sense.
I rate him very highly. Technical, defensive, has the markings of a leader. Don't see Levy selling him though.
I don't think he's that good, Wanyama is doing a better job this season in defensive midfield but doesn't get the same kind of praise because he's not English.
When I've watched Spurs recently he looks awkward on the ball at times and makes John Stones like decisions that lead to chances for the opposition
He is not very good. Makes costly mistakes and he is not any sort of improvement on what we have currently(even in the mistakes department alone).
He's worse than Fabinho. Physical attribute may be not. Tactical discipline, understanding, effectiveness in the role, Fabinho is no brainer.
He's a piece of shite, do not want. He's also a bit of a Phil Jones
He's only 23 and may be able to really step up given a bigger platform. Always good to have British talent too. I'd love to have him in the squad.
Yes please. The closest English player to Carrick currently
He's the player I'd most want us to sign from Spurs. I'm still not convinced about Kane. Stupid as it sounds but he still doesn't look like a natural goal scorer and I'm not sure in 5 years time he'll still be getting 25 a season or if we'll look back at him as the modern-day Kevin Phillips. But Dier looks the real deal and my pick for Carrick's replacement. Different type of player but someone who can control the game nonetheless.
Would rather of kept Schneiderlin to be honest, and that is saying something. Dier is hugely overrated, Wanyama makes him look much better then he is.
Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious. Spurs are a far better team than ourselves at present and were also last year. He'd improve the team significantly and would provide a good partner for Pogba. £40m is a bargain for him in my view.
He is the weakest player in their starting XI and the most immediately expendable. He is not even a guaranteed starter, depending on the formation they choose to play. He is either a 3rd CB or a 3rd MF but not good enough to displace their best players in either position.
I'd imagine it's very likely that within 3 transfer windows (this Summer, next Xmas and the following Summer) Spurs will lose all 3 of Kane, Alli and Dier.
Lost his place in midfield to Wanyama. He isn't good enough to play in midfield or at centre back for United.
The only reason I can see for Jose wanting to sign him is the lumps he kicked out of Chelsea players last season.
Hes a journeyman. Wouldn't be out of place in a lesser league.
Bang average and an icon for Englisj football, strong, physique but extremely limited. From Carrick to Dier would just highlight how far we have fallen.
Oh please don't say we are linked to this tosser. Average as they come. Not much better than Henderson
Mr Average that we'll pay British tax to get. He's a 20m player at best....
Reasons for Dier to choose Utd over staying at Spurs:
United are a bigger club
More illustrious history
Bigger fan base
To play at Old Trafford
To win trophies
Jose Mourinho
Lifelong Utd fan
The Mail in on this as well now, they are saying £40M.
He'd cost the same Fabinho would, whilst being an inferior player.
Not so hard to see why Pochettino prefers Wanyama over him after those recent England performances. Fabinho is so many levels above this guy.
A very strange signing if we go for him. Don't think he is world class or especially dynamic. Can't quite figure out how he is an upgrade on what we already have
This would be a pointless signing, he's mediocre in every department, Herrera can do everything he can in the holding role and is more mobile and better positionally.
Going from Fabinho/Nainggolan to Dier would be like the time we pursued Fabregas and ended up with Fellaini.
I do not want Eric Dier, I want a player with defensive ability as well as great technique on the ball. Fabinho fits that profile.
In fact, if we sign Eric Dier I would go as far as saying the Premier League will not be won by Man Utd next season.
Would be massively disappointed if we got him instead of Fabinho
Hope Mourinho was watching last night....utter turd of a player!
He's an average player and is Spurs 3rd best CM. No top 6 team would even consider the thought of him in their first team, very techincally limited player who he is average at everything he does.
Price, talent and potential taken into account, it makes no sense for a top 6 team to buy him I believe.
Nothing more exciting than to sign a player to help us battle Liverpool and Arsenal for 5th or 6th position in the league every year.
to lose out on griezmann and end up with this guy and perisic in the same transfer window would just stink.
I don't mind to take him on a free and hang around in the reserves. To pay money for that, no
Totally agree. If we are going to spend £50m on Dier we might aswell of kept Schneiderlin. Utterly pointless signing he would be.
When partnered with Livermore in midfield, Livermore looks the more technically gifted of the two. Comparisons to Carrick are insulting.
This guy sucks and thats before i even realized hes english, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Atleast with Carrick at Tottenham you could see the passing and distribution was there, Dier is just fecking awful at everything other than being a lanky tree standing around hopefully to cut someone a blister if they get too close.
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Would love him here. Going to be hard to buy a Spurs player though.
I don't like him, from the way he plays to his mug, can not stand.
Away from him being a block-headed cnut, I don't think he's very good. They don't really play in the same position either but I think Winks has more about him in terms of potential ability.
I think his passing is actually half decent. Not Carrick standard or the likes, but better than your average DM.
I like him, but it's his Spurs counter part we should of been after last summer (Wanyama)
He's not a very good CB. Certainly not better than Jones or Smalling. He's definitely not good enough for us as a CM.
Eric Dier has the most apt name in world football.
Would absolutely love him here. He's top top drawer. An player who would improve us greatly in midfield. But why would Levy sell one of his best players to us? Doesn't make sense.
I rate him very highly. Technical, defensive, has the markings of a leader. Don't see Levy selling him though.
I don't think he's that good, Wanyama is doing a better job this season in defensive midfield but doesn't get the same kind of praise because he's not English.
When I've watched Spurs recently he looks awkward on the ball at times and makes John Stones like decisions that lead to chances for the opposition
He is not very good. Makes costly mistakes and he is not any sort of improvement on what we have currently(even in the mistakes department alone).
He's worse than Fabinho. Physical attribute may be not. Tactical discipline, understanding, effectiveness in the role, Fabinho is no brainer.
He's a piece of shite, do not want. He's also a bit of a Phil Jones
He's only 23 and may be able to really step up given a bigger platform. Always good to have British talent too. I'd love to have him in the squad.
Yes please. The closest English player to Carrick currently
He's the player I'd most want us to sign from Spurs. I'm still not convinced about Kane. Stupid as it sounds but he still doesn't look like a natural goal scorer and I'm not sure in 5 years time he'll still be getting 25 a season or if we'll look back at him as the modern-day Kevin Phillips. But Dier looks the real deal and my pick for Carrick's replacement. Different type of player but someone who can control the game nonetheless.
Would rather of kept Schneiderlin to be honest, and that is saying something. Dier is hugely overrated, Wanyama makes him look much better then he is.
Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious. Spurs are a far better team than ourselves at present and were also last year. He'd improve the team significantly and would provide a good partner for Pogba. £40m is a bargain for him in my view.
He is the weakest player in their starting XI and the most immediately expendable. He is not even a guaranteed starter, depending on the formation they choose to play. He is either a 3rd CB or a 3rd MF but not good enough to displace their best players in either position.
I'd imagine it's very likely that within 3 transfer windows (this Summer, next Xmas and the following Summer) Spurs will lose all 3 of Kane, Alli and Dier.
Lost his place in midfield to Wanyama. He isn't good enough to play in midfield or at centre back for United.
The only reason I can see for Jose wanting to sign him is the lumps he kicked out of Chelsea players last season.
Hes a journeyman. Wouldn't be out of place in a lesser league.
Bang average and an icon for Englisj football, strong, physique but extremely limited. From Carrick to Dier would just highlight how far we have fallen.
Oh please don't say we are linked to this tosser. Average as they come. Not much better than Henderson
Mr Average that we'll pay British tax to get. He's a 20m player at best....
Reasons for Dier to choose Utd over staying at Spurs:
United are a bigger club
More illustrious history
Bigger fan base
To play at Old Trafford
To win trophies
Jose Mourinho
Lifelong Utd fan
The Mail in on this as well now, they are saying £40M.
He'd cost the same Fabinho would, whilst being an inferior player.
Not so hard to see why Pochettino prefers Wanyama over him after those recent England performances. Fabinho is so many levels above this guy.
A very strange signing if we go for him. Don't think he is world class or especially dynamic. Can't quite figure out how he is an upgrade on what we already have
This would be a pointless signing, he's mediocre in every department, Herrera can do everything he can in the holding role and is more mobile and better positionally.
Going from Fabinho/Nainggolan to Dier would be like the time we pursued Fabregas and ended up with Fellaini.
I do not want Eric Dier, I want a player with defensive ability as well as great technique on the ball. Fabinho fits that profile.
In fact, if we sign Eric Dier I would go as far as saying the Premier League will not be won by Man Utd next season.
Would be massively disappointed if we got him instead of Fabinho
Hope Mourinho was watching last night....utter turd of a player!
He's an average player and is Spurs 3rd best CM. No top 6 team would even consider the thought of him in their first team, very techincally limited player who he is average at everything he does.
Price, talent and potential taken into account, it makes no sense for a top 6 team to buy him I believe.
Nothing more exciting than to sign a player to help us battle Liverpool and Arsenal for 5th or 6th position in the league every year.
to lose out on griezmann and end up with this guy and perisic in the same transfer window would just stink.
I don't mind to take him on a free and hang around in the reserves. To pay money for that, no
Totally agree. If we are going to spend £50m on Dier we might aswell of kept Schneiderlin. Utterly pointless signing he would be.
When partnered with Livermore in midfield, Livermore looks the more technically gifted of the two. Comparisons to Carrick are insulting.
This guy sucks and thats before i even realized hes english, he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Atleast with Carrick at Tottenham you could see the passing and distribution was there, Dier is just fecking awful at everything other than being a lanky tree standing around hopefully to cut someone a blister if they get too close.
isaac94
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Trouble is for Tottenham, his not really one of our main players, his a cog in our machine (its hard to notice dier when dembele, eriksen, alli, kane, verts, rose etc are playing), for England his given more responsibility then he can't handle (Southgate saying he wants to build a team around him), and putting him in cm, where his see's much more of the ball, and where his job is to be a creative player, which he is not, has to play cb or fluid dm for me, any other position he gets exposed. Not to say he isn't a important player for us.
Never understood the Dier love in tbh .You have to ask yourself why poch bought wanyama ,if he rated Dier that highly there's no way he'd have bought wanyama .Yes he is useful because he can do an adequate job in a number of positions .But imo he is immensely replaceable .
It's also pretty clear nobody outside Spurs fans rate him .Are they all blind ? I think when players are decent ,supporters from other clubs would begrudgingly agree .If there were rumours of Kane going to manu ,Redcafe would be having a love in ,not the reaction dier has got .
Gb160
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Because he doesn't see Dier as a dm long term perhaps?
Gb160
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Utter rubbish, Jose obv likes him for a start...you're the perfect example of why all clubs fans opinions are, on the whole, best ignored.
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