Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Ionman34]

The proof will be in the buying of Lo Celso without selling Eriksen. As they would have been a lot of money forked out on two players. Then I can see him doing the rest too,backs etc. I mean even if Eriksen went next year that still would be a huge commitment and a statement of intent to push us up another level

Agreed.

It’s not really belief though after you’ve had proof. For all the praise Poch gets, deservedly so too, the true catalyst for the resurgence of this club is Daniel Levy. I’ve believed for a long time that he’s had a vision to take us into the elite, and nothing I’ve seen to date has altered that belief.
I’m pragmatic enough to know that growth of any company, especially one in as fluid an environment as Football, is not a linear process. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards in order to take two forwards, and this has been demonstrated in full when you look back on the progress of this club since Scholar screwed us.

As far as I’m concerned, when DL says it’s time to believe, I’m as cool as fuck about where we are going, as he really doesn’t make statements like that without having the means to back it up.

 

[karennina]

Who actually said anything about dropping him?

But he cannot play every minute of every game, so we are looking at options without having to buy a new CF - Llorente is not really an answer (though a potential one year option) and Parrott not ready yet.

Do we have to change formation to two up front when Kane is injured, or are Son or Moura really capable of playing through the middle alone up front?

If they’re not, I’d argue being forced into a formation change is unacceptable, notwithstanding the times we might want to go with two for other reasons, so the question becomes Llorente/Parrott/AnOther to complete the squad?

 

[Ionman34]

Anyone starting to think that we may set up without a focal point of Kane?

Dare I say it, but last year our play was often better without him and a mix of others leading a flexible line.

These additions, with CE staying, would provide even more variation to play

I kind of get where you’re coming from there, particularly with the attacking variation, but Kane will always be the focal point because he’s, quite simply, the most dangerous striker on the planet.
The variation I think, rather than making him less of a focus, will enable him to utilise his intelligence better. At peak he’s 2-3 thoughts ahead of anyone else. Last season he was well of his peak and his understanding/movement with Son suffered as a result. If Ndombele and, dare I say it, Lo Celso hit the ground running, with a fully rested and fired up Kane and Eriksen also in the fold, we could potentially see a perfect storm of attacking play on the horizon.

Incredibly exciting thought really.

 

[Ionman34]

Repeating the same things over and over has nothing to do with being creative. The definition of "creativity" is "the ability to produce or use original and unusual ideas". So, repeating the same things over and over has nothing to do with being creative, as the definition of "creativity" is "the ability to produce or use original and unusual ideas". There might be snippets and shadows of creative posts in this forum, but mass re-producing and constantly repeating the same thing over and over has nothing to do with being creative as the very definition of "creativity" is "the ability to produce or use original and unusual ideas".

Hear that whoosh?

That’s the sarcasm flying over your head at a rate of knots...

 

[Cinemattis]

Hear that whoosh?

That’s the sarcasm flying over your head at a rate of knots...

Really? You don’t say... eh...”ditto”?

 

[Ionman34]

Really? You don’t say... eh...”ditto”?

Lol, touché mon ami ?

 

[GetSpurredOn]

At this point we hope Levy is going all the way for this season but is he? To get everything is a mega commitment,are we doing all this,this season or maybe some,next?

Remember DL's statement at the end of last season?

"It's time to believe..."

I think he meant it.

Has Poch perhaps earnt this level backing now? When you see the level ahead Liverpool and City are, plus how we fell away towards the end of the season, it’s clear continuing to do not a lot of business will not allow us to close the gap. Equally others behind us are investing to close the gap on us. After years on the periphery of top four, having broken into that group, do we now want to slip back again?

We now have be best stadium and training facilities in the uk, amongst the best in world, wasteful to fill it with Europa league players and football. That level of football will not yield the financials the board want.

We have one of the most highly rated managers in Europe. He has had us punching above our level with lesser investment than his contemporaries. How long does he stay if not backed with same level of resources to attain success.

Levy has delivered the training facilities way beyond what he inherited. Levy has delivered a stadium way beyond what he inherited. Maybe now those projects are done, it is the time Levy will move his focus to deliver the manger the playing resources to truly compete at the top table.

 

[Ionman34]

Has Poch perhaps earnt this level backing now?When you see the level ahead Liverpool and City are, plus how we fell away towards the end of the season, it’s clear continuing to do not a lot of business will not allow us to close the gap. Equally others behind are investing to close the gap on us. After years on the periphery of top four, having broken into that group, do we now want to slip back again?

We now have be best stadium and training facilities in the uk, amongst the best in world, wasteful to fill it with Europa league players and football. That level of football will not yield the financials the board want.

We have one of the most highly rated managers in Europe. He has had us punching above our level with lesser investment that his contemporaries. How long does he stay if not backed with same level of resources to attain success.

Levy has delivered the training facilities way beyond what he inherited. Levy has delivered a stadium way beyond what he invested. Maybe now those projects are done, it is the time Levy will move his focus to deliver the manger the playing resources to truly compete at the top table.

Exactly.

The foundations for sustainability are now in place, that is essential for any business wanting to compete at the top consistently rather than just getting the odd day in the sun.

It staggers me that DL's business acumen is acknowledged by all, yet this fundamental truth is missed, though having said that, it's obvious that those questioning him are those who want instant gratification.

It's worth remembering too that, during his tenure, we've had two clubs that got that wish with the ridiculous instant spending power that Abramovich and Mansour brought. Yet despite all that, we've taken the blows and gotten stronger regardless.

We're now in a position where we have in demand players telling their agents to make it happen so they can join us, that's an incredible thought when you consider, not so long ago, we were getting "thank you for the interest" letters from in demand players.

I do believe we will get Lo Celso, I'm not convinced we will get every position filled to everyone's satisfaction this window, but then I believe that the academy will spring some early surprises too, so I'm chilled about that.

Exciting times

 

[idontgetit]

What position would he play for us? Like a no.10? Can he play deeper or out wide?

 

[Colonel Dax]

What position would he play for us? Like a no.10? Can he play deeper or out wide?

Can play no. 10, no. 8 and out wide if need be. Versatile.

 

[ebzrascal]

What was our original bid? 40m?

Knowing that they would have to give 10-12m back they'd only have made 28m profit which would only have just brought them in Fekir. It's clear Beits went for such a high value as they wanted money to replace and then invest further as the percentage sell on fee was so high.

Even 50m wouldn't leave them with a lot after

I guess it's £63m -£21m cost from PSG -£12.6 Sell on money = £29.4m profit - agent fees.. so they basically getting Fakir for nothing not bad business really.. if they are paying the rumoured €25m they still have money to spend..

 

[rossdapep]

I guess it's £63m -£21m cost from PSG -£12.6 Sell on money = £29.4m profit - agent fees.. so they basically getting Fakir for nothing not bad business really.. if they are paying the rumoured €25m they still have money to spend..

It's a good deal in fairness, yeah. They likely got Lo Celso as many other clubs wouldn't have agreed to that sell on clause. They took that risk and looks like they'll end up with a very good player. Luckily for them Lo Celso has been so good and Poch is so determined to get him as I think they'd have struggled to get over 40m otherwise and that would have been poor business.

Anyway, let's hope this gets before the Audi Cup so we can get him some minutes

 

[Yiddo100]

Lovely ITK from herc, let’s hope it’s wrapped up soon

 

[shelfmonkey]

Remember DL's statement at the end of last season?

"It's time to believe..."

I think he meant it.

Maybe he's found God!

 

[Clark28]

Pls be him in and Eriksen staying too?

 

[eight6suited]

Sissoko is a leftie!

Or...is he a rightie? Does anyone know? Does he know?

What do you call it when a player can’t shoot with either foot????

But I do love the physical presence he brought to the pitch this last season.

 

[Annabel]

Lo celso is from Latin Celsus meaning superb, proud or dignified. So Giovanni Lo Celso in English is Jonny the Great.

 

[dtxspurs]

Foyth taking Tripps number freeing up #21?

 

[ajspurs]

Lo Celso in, Sessegnon in, Eriksen staying and Janssen out would make for an incredible week.

 

[dtxspurs]

Lo Celso in, Sessegnon in, Eriksen staying and Janssen out would make for an incredible week.

And Toby's clause is over at the end of this week.