Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Mr Pink]

The fact that some of you would be fine with selling him confuses me a little...

He's the only truly world class player we've got - and our replacement would be at leaast 2/3 tiers below. Since when did we ever improve after selling our best player?

Our aim should be to keep ALL our big players from now on, even if it means lowering the spending a little imo.

That's just not realistic though is it? Sounds great but its not going to happen. Until we're in a bigger stadium and in a position to offer larger wages and become more competitive, players in and around the world class bracket, or verging close to it, will continue to look at us as a stepping stone to a bigger Club.

 

[eddiev14]

That's just not realistic though is it? Sounds great but its not going to happen. Until we're in a bigger stadium and in a position to offer larger wages and become more competitive, players in and around the world class bracket, or verging close to it, will continue to look at us as a stepping stone to a bigger Club.

...and, to play devil's advocate here (because in no way am I endorsing the flogging of our top players!), is being a stepping stone to Madrid actually going to hurt us?

Putting aside our one-club loyalty and personal hurt at a star player not wanting to be at our beloved club anymore, objectively the answer might well be 'no'.

So, the likes of Modric, Bale, Lloris and, say, Eriksen - hot properties of European football - think 'I need to find a club where I can develop as a player, compete at a relatively high level in a tough league and have a good chance of moving to Real Madrid in a few years if I am good enough'...

But we still benefit from this scenario, right?

Not only from a financial standpoint but also a footballing one. Our love affair with the player doesn't last forever but we still get a couple of seasons out of a guy who is in (or approaching) that fabled 'World Class' bracket.

That can only benefit us, surely?

The counter-argument is the notion that 'breaking up a team' by selling the World Class player is more damaging than half him in the first place, and the inevitable downward spiral you will face will make you worse off than you were before.

Firstly, there are numerous examples that this is overplayed hysteria - see Southampton, Swansea and a plethora of European clubs who are routinely pillaged for their stars.

It could also very easily be argued that if your reliance on one player is so strong, then your problems are much more deep rooted and need urgent attention.

Loyalty is rare, players move around. Clubs these days need to simply accept that as a given, put a structure in place to plan for it and, crucially, know how they are going to react to it before it happens.

And we can pretty much all agree that this has been the biggest failing of our club in recent years.

Our transfer strategy has been... well, let's just say the use of the word strategy is being incredibly generous.

To summarise, it can easily be argued that if a club like ours has a strategy of bringing talented players through the youth system and blending that with a well-researched, considered transfer strategy then the talent pool becomes wider, an identity can be created and there is an infrastructure in place to cope with bagging £40m+ off Real Madrid every three years to fund a new stadium and a competitive team.

Again, I'll reiterate, I 100% I want our best players to stay. However, I really do think that we are on the right path now in terms of the people we have hired to manage the club's footballing identity and the infrastructure we are creating around that, so that now - when we inevitably have to sell another star player - we will cope with these departures so much better than before.

 

[cookiemonster]

If manure comes in for him

He will be gone...no doubt about that

 

[spurs-r-us]

Bizarre that people here are willing to settle for Vorm. Swansea rated Tremmell and Fabianski higher than him after he started channeling his inner David James. Give Vorm two months in goal, and you'll be begging for alternatives. I agree that he was decent the last few weeks, but he's a rung below Krul, Mignolet and Begovic; let alone Lloris, De Gea and Courtois.

If he goes anywhere, it better be Real. I will be fuming if he ends up at United. Love the man, but that'll dry up quick fast if he goes elsewhere in England.

Ideal replacement for me would be Bravo or Navas, and I don't see it as terribly unrealistic.

 

[TH1239]

Bizarre that people here are willing to settle for Vorm. Swansea rated Tremmell and Fabianski higher than him after he started channeling his inner David James. Give Vorm two months in goal, and you'll be begging for alternatives. I agree that he was decent the last few weeks, but he's a rung below Krul, Mignolet and Begovic; let alone Lloris, De Gea and Courtois.

If he goes anywhere, it better be Real. I will be fuming if he ends up at United. Love the man, but that'll dry up quick fast if he goes elsewhere in England.

Ideal replacement for me would be Bravo or Navas, and I don't see it as terribly unrealistic.

Vorm is nowhere near the sweeper keeper Lloris is, nor is he as good an athlete as Lloris. Our team as currently constituted needs about 3-4 quality signings just to keep a solid grip on 6th place in the league. Sell Lloris, with Vertonghen almost certain to follow, and that means we'll have gaps all throughout the squad to fill, with Levy spearheading negotiations for replacements. This is a recipe for disaster and one that will possibly end with Pochettino eventually being sacked. Look how adamant Poch is when he is asked about Lloris leaving. It was just like AVB with Bale. These guys know how much they'd be set back if they lost these players, but fans seemingly think a guy that wasn't all that coveted by midtable Swansea can seamlessly step in and see the club put in stronger performances with better overall results next season.

 

[spurs-r-us]

Vorm is nowhere near the sweeper keeper Lloris is, nor is he as good an athlete as Lloris. Our team as currently constituted needs about 3-4 quality signings just to keep a solid grip on 6th place in the league. Sell Lloris, with Vertonghen almost certain to follow, and that means we'll have gaps all throughout the squad to fill, with Levy spearheading negotiations for replacements. This is a recipe for disaster and one that will possibly end with Pochettino eventually being sacked. Look how adamant Poch is when he is asked about Lloris leaving. It was just like AVB with Bale. These guys know how much they'd be set back if they lost these players, but fans seemingly think a guy that wasn't all that coveted by midtable Swansea can seamlessly step in and see the club put in stronger performances with better overall results next season.

Well said. I do think this team is the 6th best in the league, and they will show that when the 38 matches are over, but they're nowhere near the top four.

If Lloris is a 9, Vorm will be lucky to be a 6. I'd take Krul as a replacement, but that's about it as far as EPL options go.

 

[Database]

Well said. I do think this team is the 6th best in the league, and they will show that when the 38 matches are over, but they're nowhere near the top four.

If Lloris is a 9, Vorm will be lucky to be a 6. I'd take Krul as a replacement, but that's about it as far as EPL options go.

Vorm is better than Krul. Tim Krul reminds me of Heurelho Gomes. Fantastic shot stopper, but that's all he is...

 

[Dharmabum]

Hugo Lloris is the best goalkeeper in the Premier League... he's played with some s*** players at Tottenham Hotspur and still done well, says Neville Southall

• Everton legend Neville Southall says Hugo Lloris is the best in the league
• Lloris has been linked with Manchester United and Paris-Saint Germain
• Spurs are understood to have slapped a £35m price tag on the Frenchman
• Southall is not so convinced by Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet

By STUART FRASER FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 11:16 GMT, 6 May 2015 | UPDATED: 13:37 GMT, 6 May 2015



Former Everton and Wales goalkeeper Neville Southall has hailed Tottenham Hotspur's Hugo Lloris as the Premier League's best goalkeeper.

Lloris, 28, has been linked with Manchester United and Paris-Saint Germain and Spurs are understood to have slapped a £35 million price tag on the French goalkeeper to ward off his potential suitors.

In an interview with The Set Pieces, Southall said: 'I think he’s probably the best Spurs goalie since Pat Jennings.

'When I look at him, he plays the way I like a goalie to play. He’s always positive, he’s always looking for things, he’s always proactive, he wants things to happen and he makes things happen.

'He’s played in a changing club with changing players. He’s played with some absolutely s*** players and some good ones and he’s managed to get on with both.

'If they’ve played with a high line... well, you’ve watched Tottenham. Some of them players, they don’t know what they’re doing. If there’s going to be a slip, Lloris knows.


'He’s brave on the pitch physically, he’s brave mentally, he comes out and he does stuff that other goalkeepers won’t do. I’d say he was the best in the league.'

Southall, 56, is not so convinced, however, by Liverpool goalkeeper Simon Mignolet.

He said: 'I just don’t think he’s a Liverpool goalie. He doesn’t look arrogant. He doesn’t look as if he’s in command of everyone. He doesn’t look as if he can go a full game without making a mistake.

'I think at times he makes great saves, but at times he can’t and he’s nowhere near it. I look at Mignolet and I think he can have all the coaching he wants, he hasn’t improved.

'His fundamental thing, his decision making, is bad.'


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[lukespurs7]

Well said. I do think this team is the 6th best in the league, and they will show that when the 38 matches are over, but they're nowhere near the top four.

If Lloris is a 9, Vorm will be lucky to be a 6. I'd take Krul as a replacement, but that's about it as far as EPL options go.

Krul is a fantastic keeper and in my opinion not too far off Lloris but they are the difference between very good and world class.

I can 100% see Lloris leaving this summer and I don't blame him, would love it if he stuck around for 1 more season though.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Can anybody put my mind at ease... Has there been any quotes/genuine itk about Hugo leaving or is it all pure speculation?

 

[danielneeds]

Krul is a fantastic keeper and in my opinion not too far off Lloris but they are the difference between very good and world class.

I can 100% see Lloris leaving this summer and I don't blame him, would love it if he stuck around for 1 more season though.

He really isn't. Has the occasional game where everything hits him (usually at WHL) but he's poor in many areas.

 

[danielneeds]

So, the likes of Modric, Bale, Lloris and, say, Eriksen - hot properties of European football - think 'I need to find a club where I can develop as a player, compete at a relatively high level in a tough league and have a good chance of moving to Real Madrid in a few years if I am good enough'...

But we still benefit from this scenario, right?

Not only from a financial standpoint but also a footballing one. Our love affair with the player doesn't last forever but we still get a couple of seasons out of a guy who is in (or approaching) that fabled 'World Class' bracket.

That can only benefit us, surely?

The key thing is to become known as a place where ambitious young players will play a lot, in a good league, and perhaps earn a move to a superpower.

You then want a special manager to create a moment where a number of these players click together in one team, and you can elevate your level. You can't hold a gun to their heads and make them want to stay if you are not competing, you have to create the conditions for more loyalty, and also have top recruitment in place, if you still have to sell some on.

 

[ultimateloner]

I think we can still keep 6th/7th place even if we sell Lloris.
Unless Southampton digs deep they shouldn't threaten us. They are great defensively but can't score.
Depending on what Liverpool does we may be left further behind but it doesn't matter if our aim is to consolidate.

 

[TheAmerican]

I really think Hugo is a family man. His wife seems to be his world, so I suspect he will go (or stay) wherever he sees best for his family. It may very well be to stay in London, or it may be to move back to France.

 

[eddiev14]

The key thing is to become known as a place where ambitious young players will play a lot, in a good league, and perhaps earn a move to a superpower.

You then want a special manager to create a moment where a number of these players click together in one team, and you can elevate your level. You can't hold a gun to their heads and make them want to stay if you are not competing, you have to create the conditions for more loyalty, and also have top recruitment in place, if you still have to sell some on.

Yeah, agreed.

 

[danielneeds]

Yeah, agreed.

It's obviously easy peasy, why don't we just do it? lol.

 

[fuzzylogic]

Krul is a fantastic keeper and in my opinion not too far off Lloris but they are the difference between very good and world class.

I can 100% see Lloris leaving this summer and I don't blame him, would love it if he stuck around for 1 more season though.

I am sorry but Hugo and krul should never be mentioned in the same sentence. If and it's a big if, that Hugo leaves. Then I aint wanting to replace him with krul. Would rather have vorn

 

[YidNick]

I really think Hugo is a family man. His wife seems to be his world, so I suspect he will go (or stay) wherever he sees best for his family. It may very well be to stay in London, or it may be to move back to France.

Let's hope he enrols his kid into nursery, worked out well for suarez, eh @Toela65

 

[shelfboy68]

The key thing is to become known as a place where ambitious young players will play a lot, in a good league, and perhaps earn a move to a superpower.

You then want a special manager to create a moment where a number of these players click together in one team, and you can elevate your level. You can't hold a gun to their heads and make them want to stay if you are not competing, you have to create the conditions for more loyalty, and also have top recruitment in place, if you still have to sell some on.

First when do we recruit all these players and special managers to do this then as we currently have what we have.
And second i thought we are trying to put a team together that will last some time and actually might try and be succesful,not become a constant conveyer belt of talent to keep other teams supplied who wants that.
I renew every year in the faint hope that i might see us be part of the best again, i dont want to renew if it means we are going to become an upmarket version of West ham.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The key thing is to become known as a place where ambitious young players will play a lot, in a good league, and perhaps earn a move to a superpower.

You then want a special manager to create a moment where a number of these players click together in one team, and you can elevate your level. You can't hold a gun to their heads and make them want to stay if you are not competing, you have to create the conditions for more loyalty, and also have top recruitment in place, if you still have to sell some on.

Spot on