Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Marty]

You could also say that shows how shit our defence has been.

But yeah, after H, he's the main reason we were so good through the second half of the 2010's.

Also how Jose's tactics allowed for a lot of shots against, the objective being that we forced the opposition to shoot from undesirable positions so Hugo could make easy saves, but of course it often didn't work out like that.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Also how Jose's tactics allowed for a lot of shots against, the objective being that we forced the opposition to shoot from undesirable positions so Hugo could make easy saves, but of course it often didn't work out like that.

Unpopular opinion, but I preferred Jose stopping the playing out from the back, thereby removing Hugo's exposure to the ball at his feet.

 

[ardiles]

I hope that Levy can convince Lloris and Kane to sign new contracts so that they end they playing careers at Spurs (I know that Lloris had previously stated that he’d like to end his playing career in France but people do change their minds sometimes).

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

time to move the thread?

 

[Spurslove]

There seems to be a general consensus of opinion among some fellow Spurs fans I speak to, that whoever the new man who comes in is, he should remove the captaincy from Hugo and give it to Harry. I must admit, personally, I wasn't particularly comfortable with our goalie being given the skippers job in the first place, regardless of the reputation he came with as a world cup captain and winner.

If I remember rightly, when Poch came in he immediately gave the skippers job to Kaboul but the players all voted for Hugo, and the rest is history.

What's the general view on here?
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[sausage]

There seems to be a general consensus of opinion among some fellow Spurs fans I speak to, that whoever the new man who comes in is, he should remove the captaincy from Hugo and give it to Harry. I must admit, personally, I wasn't particularly comfortable with our goalie being given the skippers job in the first place, regardless of the reputation he came with as a world cup captain and winner.

If I remember rightly, when Poch came in he immediately gave the skippers job to Kaboul but the players all voted for Hugo, and the rest is history.

What's the general view on here?
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I'm not suggesting he isn't well respected, but he's been captain for a long time now and we've failed to get over the line in big matches. Part of this, surely, is something a captain helps with... so time to mix it up? No disrespect to him.

 

[Spurslove]

I'm not suggesting he isn't well respected, but he's been captain for a long time now and we've failed to get over the line in big matches. Part of this, surely, is something a captain helps with... so time to mix it up? No disrespect to him.

I agree 100%.
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[Shadydan]

I'm not suggesting he isn't well respected, but he's been captain for a long time now and we've failed to get over the line in big matches. Part of this, surely, is something a captain helps with... so time to mix it up? No disrespect to him.

France don't have that problem though.

 

[sausage]

France don't have that problem though.

I'd say they did it in spite of it. His WC Final performance wasn't exactly inspiring. It's likely that their manager/squad/culture didn't hinge so much on a captain's speech. "Lads, it's Croatia"

 

[Shadydan]

I'd say they did it in spite of it. His WC Final performance wasn't exactly inspiring. It's likely that their manager/squad/culture didn't hinge so much on a captain's speech. "Lads, it's Croatia"

Could argue that we'd would have most probably not got over the line in spite whoever is captain to be fair.

I don't see how it would make much difference to be honest, if the lads can't get inspiration from a very well respected World Cup winner with over 100 caps for his country then we don't have much hope.

 

[sausage]

Could argue that we'd would have most probably not got over the line in spite whoever is captain to be fair.

I don't see how it would make much difference to be honest, if the lads can't get inspiration from a very well respected World Cup winner with over 100 caps for his country then we don't have much hope.

True, but I can't help but feel like your Roy Keane or Scotty P types (e.g. really industrial midfielders) are more effective on the pitch.

Not necessarily convinced H is good captain material on that criteria though. I'd have pegged PEH to be better, tbh.

 

[Shadydan]

True, but I can't help but feel like your Roy Keane or Scotty P types (e.g. really industrial midfielders) are more effective on the pitch.

Not necessarily convinced H is good captain material on that criteria though. I'd have pegged PEH to be better, tbh.

I don't see why Hojbjerg cannot carry out captain duties without and armband though, it's not as if it's stopping him shouting or barking orders.

I never understood the clamor for certain players to be captain, the truth is that all the top teams have players who can be considered captain material on the pitch who don't need an armband to show it who player's take inspiration off...Bruno/Dias/Van Dijk etc...

 

[sausage]

I don't see why Hojbjerg cannot carry out captain duties without and armband though, it's not as if it's stopping him shouting or barking orders.

I never understood the clamor for certain players to be captain, the truth is that all the top teams have players who can be considered captain material on the pitch who don't need an armband to show it who player's take inspiration off...Bruno/Dias/Van Dijk etc...

It's also an off-field role, though. The captain usually has the manager's ear, and commands respect on the field. I think the fact that we've seen the likes of Winks pointing and shouting, and Dier doing the same in games, it kind of suggests there's a bit of anarchy.
If Sissoko is a big dressing room influence, and it's possible that Hugo isn't, then he could be shouty and be well decorated, but ultimately ineffective in that role.

I agree that you don't need an armband to lead, but I think there needs to be a sense of unity channeled through one player

 

[bubble07]

Donnaruma is available

 

[Shadydan]

It's also an off-field role, though. The captain usually has the manager's ear, and commands respect on the field. I think the fact that we've seen the likes of Winks pointing and shouting, and Dier doing the same in games, it kind of suggests there's a bit of anarchy.
If Sissoko is a big dressing room influence, and it's possible that Hugo isn't, then he could be shouty and be well decorated, but ultimately ineffective in that role.

I agree that you don't need an armband to lead, but I think there needs to be a sense of unity channeled through one player

Does it?

 

[sausage]

Does it?

I feel like it does - should a good captain not give them a slap and tell them to start taking ownership of their mistakes? They let the team down and then blame then. It's not surprise (to me) that there are fractures in the dressing room.

Mourinho was mediating between Dele and Eric instead of the captain (Winks...hmm) in the wolves game. I just can't imagine any big team, be it a SAF one or any other winning team, having this kind of 'silent' dynamic. Whenever I've read autobio's on sports biggest winners, they paint pictures of the captain being the gel that binds the team together - not one that watches it fall apart.

 

[Shadydan]

I feel like it does - should a good captain not give them a slap and tell them to start taking ownership of their mistakes? They let the team down and then blame then. It's not surprise (to me) that there are fractures in the dressing room.

Mourinho was mediating between Dele and Eric instead of the captain (Winks...hmm) in the wolves game. I just can't imagine any big team, be it a SAF one or any other winning team, having this kind of 'silent' dynamic. Whenever I've read autobio's on sports biggest winners, they paint pictures of the captain being the gel that binds the team together - not one that watches it fall apart.

But not all captains are shouty types (Kane being the obvious example and he in fact the natural heir to the throne of Lloris.), I feel that's a bit old skool, you want your captain to be an inspiration on and off the pitch and I feel there may be an an argument about him being vocal on the pitch, he is incredibly well respected off it.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Donnaruma is available

Yeah at 300k a week he is.

 

[spursfan77]

When the time comes he’ll be so hard to replace. Remember when we got him on the cheap too. His replacement won’t be. We need him to stay next season if we can.

 

[hughy]

When the time comes he’ll be so hard to replace. Remember when we got him on the cheap too. His replacement won’t be. We need him to stay next season if we can.

Why not? Chelsea signed Mendy for around £22m, and look how great he has been for them. Milan have just signed Maignan who is tipped to take over from Lloris for France for around £12m.

Deals are clearly there to be had on goalkeepers, the problem is I don't trust our current scouts to find them. Not every keeper is going to cost you a Kepa.