Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[tooey]

"The facts"? Dear oh dear. Are you honestly arguing that the roadside and police station breathalyser tests are lying?

Come on mate.

Haha yeah those "facts", silly bloody "facts". You're clearly not grasping that I (personally) think there's a difference between a tiny bit over the limit and being blind drunk, that's just my ethic and I don't really care if you share it or not.

 

[SonicSarr]

What type of punishment is Hugo looking at in court of law? Not familiar with the U.K. Over in the States lose your license for a bit and have to go through classes and such for a few months on a first offense.

I doubt this ends his days at Spurs. Athletes get nailed for DUI's all the time in the States and generally face a short suspension. I can't imagine Spurs will do anything severe here as he has been a good employee to date and this is his first offense.

He'll be banned from driving for 12-18 months and get a fine. Silly boy.

I'd guess he just had a couple of glasses of wine rather than being 'drunk' but not good for him or us all the same.

 

[CowInAComa]

How melodramatic are some of you lol, Jesus he fucked up, he's not the first professional to do it and won't be the last.

The club will deal with it as it sees fit which would probably mean a demotion as captain and a fine, I'm disappointed but as long as it doesn't affect his or our performances as a team then we should move on.

Not sure a little drink driving is OK as long as it doesn't affect performance or the team.

Some people have more moral objections behind their disappointment I think.

 

[Johnny J]

What type of punishment is Hugo looking at in court of law? Not familiar with the U.K. Over in the States lose your license for a bit and have to go through classes and such for a few months on a first offense.

I doubt this ends his days at Spurs. Athletes get nailed for DUI's all the time in the States and generally face a short suspension. I can't imagine Spurs will do anything severe here as he has been a good employee to date and this is his first offense.

https://www.gov.uk/drink-driving-penalties

 

[glospur]

Oh bugger off with the "holier than thou" crap.

I have a few brain cells left rattling around in my aged head. They tell me that if you want a drink on a night out it's best not to drive. No risk of being over the limit. No risk to other road users and pedestrians. Full stop. It's that effing simple mate.

If it's "that effing simple" then why does the law actually allow you to drive with alcohol in your system?

Yeah, perhaps it is best not to drive, but that's not reflected in the law.

Again, if anyone has the right to be holier than thou about this issue, I do given my personal family experiences with drink driving, but I'm not because I actually realise that when there is an imposed limit that still allows alcohol to be in your system when driving it's far from simple considering the way that the same amount of alcohol can affect different people in different ways, and that's why we need more details of the gravity of the offence before blanket condemning the guy.

 

[werty]

Yeah. Some folks are so desperate not to have to accept one of their footballing heroes acted like a fuckwit that we get all this apologetic nonsense.

If this was a player on another team we'd be laughing at the fans defending him. We've gone full-RAWK.

 

[Grey Fox]

I will be suprised if he plays Monday night, its a double whammy being nicked for drink driving, but also out that late on training day. The earliest he would get to sleep would probably be around 3.30am.
Poch loves him, but this will piss him off big time.
As an aside, perhaps his awful kicking is because he is pissed all the time

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Won’t be the first or last person to make a mistake. He takes whatever punishment and we move on.
Probably finished as captain though.

 

[markiespurs]

What type of punishment is Hugo looking at in court of law? Not familiar with the U.K. Over in the States lose your license for a bit and have to go through classes and such for a few months on a first offense.

I doubt this ends his days at Spurs. Athletes get nailed for DUI's all the time in the States and generally face a short suspension. I can't imagine Spurs will do anything severe here as he has been a good employee to date and this is his first offense.

This is the only grey area as far as i’m concerned, what punishment he gets from the courts and a lot of this will depend on how over the limit he was.

 

[CowInAComa]

The human body produces alcohol as a by product of digestion. An over ripe apple has alcohol in it. How can you be 100% sure that glass you had at the bar wasn't washed properly and has small amounts of alcohol in your coke?

I'll bet you anything you want Hugo doesn't utilise the overripe apple defence.

 

[glospur]

The human body produces alcohol as a by product of digestion. An over ripe apple has alcohol in it. How can you be 100% sure that glass you had at the bar wasn't washed properly and has small amounts of alcohol in your coke?

Fair point. There have also been incidents here in Australia of people being over the limit after eating a particular chocolate bar that's over here (not sure if anywhere else has Cherry Ripes?). It's a complicated issue.

 

[Shadydan]

Not sure a little drink driving is OK as long as it doesn't affect performance or the team.

Some people have more moral objections behind their disappointment I think.

I didn't say it was though.

 

[Dzejkob]

It's not first time in football this happens. Of course I'm not trying to justify his behaviour. But looking at similar situation in the past I would be surprised if he won't captain our side on Monday.

 

[SdB]

Disgraceful.
Not read back through comments but hopefully no-one is defending him.

 

[vicbob]

The only one of those who committed any sorts of offence whilst a Spurs player was King, who wasn't criminally charged but still had the captaincy taken off him for Keane anyway. And regardless, none of them committed a drink driving offence.

I'm heartbroken TBH. Hugo is literally the last player in our squad I'd have expected something like that from. Even if he hadn't been caught doing something asinexcusable, as reckless, as potentially dangerous and as unavoidable as drink driving, the fact remains - what the fuck was our captain doing out at 2.30am on a school night?

He is finished as Tottenham captain. He is likely finished as France captain and I'd be surprised if he is still here this time next year. Players like Firmino, Yaya Toure and Rio Ferdinand have shown that a drink driving offence doesn't necessarily mean the end of a footballers' career, but none of them played for Pochettino and none of them were their team's respective captains when it happened.

If Poch plays the PR smartly he'll tell him to come out and resign from the captaincy to make it look voluntary so he can keep picking him until a replacement is sourced.

A very sad day. As we are unlikely to find many better keepers than Hugo that we can afford and that want to come to Spurs.

I think that's a bit extreme. While Poch is very tough with what he expects from his players, he also strikes me as a very supportive person. Maybe Hugo has a problem we don't know about, its no excuse for what he did, but maybe he needs some help and support form his peers and his employer, rather than everyone throwing the book at him.
He made a mistake. As it turned out, luckily no one got hurt, lets not right the poor guy off just yet, I'm sure hes beating himself up over it enough without everyone elses help.

 

[mark87]

I'll bet you anything you want Hugo doesn't utilise the overripe apple defence.

Correct, I really hope it's not the core of his defense.

 

[E17yid]

It’s funny how we as a society say, you can’t smoke weed it’s to bad for you. Can’t do coke or heroine or acid, MDMA etc etc but say, you can take this intoxicating substance called alcohol, it’s great. We’ll even let you drive on it, just a little bit though. We can’t tell you how much that equates to in drinks as everyone is different but you are allowed to have it in your system so just try to watch it.

The laws a joke. You shouldn’t be allowed to have any of it in your system.

On Hugo, he’s a silly boy, obviously. If I was Poch I’d 100% drop him against UTD. It’s a school night (unless Poch gave him the night off which is unlikely) and he’s the captain so he’s fucked up and should be on the bench at OT. I wouldn’t blame the club or Poch if they stripped him of his captaincy either but like all things of this nature it should be dealt with in house. There should be no dropping him to the reserves or publicaly calling him out (other than to obviously say, in the first instance, how disappointed we are with him and will be dealing with it internally and waiting on any potential legal consequences)

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Well by all means elaborate then.

You said ‘it doesn’t change his footballing qualities’. Do you think any kind of off the pitch behaviour would warrant action from the club? Where would you draw the line? Clearly drink driving isn’t really that much of a problem as far as you’re concerned. I disagree, strongly. It’s reprehensible behaviour and incredibly stupid and selfish on his part. It does not show leadership and it absolutely does affect his position in the squad.

Do you think it would ‘not affect his leadership position in the squad’ if he was behind bars on match day? That’s ridiculously short sighted.

We all love Hugo so this is particularly hard to take, but this is beyond stupid on his part and the club should take action. Kane is in line to be captain, and captains England already. Time to make the change now.

 

[dagraham]

I don't think a zero limit makes sense. At that point you can be criminalising people who've drunk more than 48 hours ago, or haven't drunk at all but taken medication, used a mouthwash, or eaten certain foods (e.g. a bolognese) with trace amounts of alcohol. Road safety campaigns generally argue for a 20mg limit (compared to 80mg in England and Wales right now), which avoids this but means even a single half-pint that day is likely to put you over the limit, and I'd certainly go along with that.

Fair enough. Good points well made. I do think though this one/two units or 1 pint/one glass of wine limit is not a good thing ( I’m not even sure if it’s one large glass or one pint or two bottles of one and a half pints etc). It’s all too ambiguous.

If you want to drive, you shouldn’t be able to drink any alcohol at all.

 

[Saoirse]

Won’t be the first or last person to make a mistake. He takes whatever punishment and we move on.
Probably finished as captain though.

A mistake is going out the night before training, drinking, and staying out until at least 2am. That's already a massive display of disrespect to his teammates, the club, and the fans who've worked their nuts off to afford the privilege of watching him play. Getting in a car and driving after that is far, far worse because it's a 'mistake' that puts innocent people in physical danger.