Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Sandros Shiny Head]

So many halo wearing perfect people in this thread that have never made a mistake in their lives.

What's your point? It being a mistake doesn't mean it didn't happen

 

[Spurrific]

So many halo wearing perfect people in this thread that have never made a mistake in their lives.

Just to put another slant on it.
My parent (Mum and Dad) were killed by a drunk driver this last Good Friday.
It was in the afternoon, the killer was 22 and out of his mind.
Did not get a custodial sentence and lives further down in the same street .
Lloris and anyone else who drives drunk deserves a proper punishment.
It has F***ed up my life.
Have not seen him since the trial, but I will and I really do not know how I will react.

This post a few below your one makes you look an utter idiot, doesn't it @Makkaveli101 ?

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'm a big fan of our Hugo, but I am very disappointed in him. Can't defend him.

 

[nidge]

So many halo wearing perfect people in this thread that have never made a mistake in their lives.

A mistake is breaking the other halves favourite vase and trying to glue it back together in an attempt to hide whats happened.

Getting into a car after having an alcoholic drink is a choice and shouldn't be passed off as just a mistake.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

So many halo wearing perfect people in this thread that have never made a mistake in their lives.

You know what? Yeah, I’ve never done anything to risk lives. Polish that halo. I’ll wear it with pride.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Do you know that next to guns drink driving is one of the highest causes of death over in America?

Do you know that people who make up stats are some of the most annoying people in the world?

2016 - total deaths in US - 2.7M
2016 - total deaths from DUI - 10,497 ~ 0.3% of deaths
2016 - total death from guns - ~38,000 ~1.4% of deaths

Heart Disease - 633,000
Cancer - 596,000
Respiratory - 155,000
Stroke - 140,000
Alzheimers - 110,000
Diabetes - 80,000
Pneumonia - 57,000
Nephritis - 50,000
Suicide - 44,000

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Yeah, I’ve never done anything to risk lives.

Bullshit.

Have you ever driven a car? You risk peoples lives every time you drive. In the US, nearly 2/3 of all vehicular deaths are non-alcohol related.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Do you know that people who make up stats are some of the most annoying people in the world?

2016 - total deaths in US - 2.7M
2016 - total deaths from DUI - 10,497 ~ 0.3% of deaths
2016 - total death from guns - ~38,000 ~1.4% of deaths

Heart Disease - 633,000
Cancer - 596,000
Respiratory - 155,000
Stroke - 140,000
Alzheimers - 110,000
Diabetes - 80,000
Pneumonia - 57,000
Nephritis - 50,000
Suicide - 44,000

Thanks for that. You’ve somehow proved drink driving does kill...

 

[sam1972]

Getting behind the wheel of a car after a drink is an elective action. It can be avoided by simply not doing it. To do it begins to create a danger.

An former colleague of mine lost his wife and daughter to a drink driver and that guy wasn’t massively over the limit.

I’m getting tired of this apologist nonsense. He is a public figure, an idol to youngsters and a highly paid professional athlete whose physical health is important. It is also a risk to get behind the wheel over the last limit. At least two machines independent of each other have shown scientifically that he was over the limit. That means he was irresponsible as an employee, a public figure and as a member of the general public.

Do you know that next to guns drink driving is one of the highest causes of death over in America?

If you’re behind the wheel and over the limit not only are you a criminal, you’re flat out risking lives. It’s utterly farcical that people are being called holier than thou for caring about the lives of innocent people. In fact, it’s despicable.

I’m not apologising for any one.
My mum was hit by a drunk driver when she was a kid and walks with a limp. I’ve stated over and over that Hugo should be punished. Not once have I apologised for him. I think he’s a dick and should know better.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Bullshit.

Have you ever driven a car? You risk peoples lives every time you drive. In the US, nearly 2/3 of all vehicular deaths are non-alcohol related.

Ah right. Well, have a drink everyone. Booze makes no difference!

Dear oh dear.

 

[nidge]

Bullshit.

Have you ever driven a car? You risk peoples lives every time you drive. In the US, nearly 2/3 of all vehicular deaths are non-alcohol related.

Yes I am sure most of us of age have driven a car before but what I hope most of us haven't done is choose to drive having impaired ones decision making and reactions through drinking alcohol.

 

[Makkaveli101]

This post a few below your one makes you look an utter idiot, doesn't it @Makkaveli101 ?

Where did I condone drink and driving you complete and utter fool?

 

[Johnny J]

I should get punished, I’ve not once said he shouldn’t. But why should I care what he’s like or does off a football pitch.
Fun fact.
I worked for the uks biggest employer for years. In that time there have been many drivers been caught drink driving and have been moved roles. In the last month someone was arrested for drug dealing and still kept there job. People don’t lose their jobs over this.

Speaking as an employment lawyer who has advised on many, many disciplinary situations, many people absolutely do lose their jobs over drink driving convictions.

 

[hughy]

Bullshit.

Have you ever driven a car? You risk peoples lives every time you drive. In the US, nearly 2/3 of all vehicular deaths are non-alcohol related.

Well you'd expect that to be the case, wouldn't you? Considering drink-driving is illegal and sober driving isn't. Most people tend to abide by the laws.

 

[Donki]

Bullshit.

Have you ever driven a car? You risk peoples lives every time you drive. In the US, nearly 2/3 of all vehicular deaths are non-alcohol related.

lol what are you arguing here? According to your stat over 1/3 of vehicle deaths are alcohol related. That is quite a high proportion.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Yes I am sure most of us of age have driven a car before but what I hope most of us haven't done is choose to drive having impaired ones decision making and reactions through drinking alcohol.

I agree - but to boldly state we have never put anyone at risk, is to ignore reality. And that is what I responded to.

Drink driving certainly enhances the risk - but so to does texting while driving, or doing anything that distracts us, or keeps us from paying attention. It could be you are angry with your boss, or you are thinking of your plans for later, or looking at someone in the car next to you.

 

[glospur]

A mistake is breaking the other halves favourite vase and trying to glue it back together in an attempt to hide whats happened.

Getting into a car after having an alcoholic drink is a choice and shouldn't be passed off as just a mistake.

It's also something that's perfectly legal to do up to a certain point. As i said before, there is a significant difference in those who misjudge how much they've had when the law allows you to drive with X amount of alcohol in your system, and those who know they're over but are willfully endangering life

Most people, as @MyNameIsNicolaBerti has ridiculously characterised them, aren't being apologists, they're just reasonably pointing out that there is a scale on how bad the offence of going over is, how easy it is to miscalculate if you're drinking with the intention of staying under, and that we have nowhere near enough information to reactively and hysterically call for him to be dropped or stripped of the captaincy.

 

[tommo84]

I think a good way perhaps is, if this is true as it seems to be, then maybe not play him for three to five games as a 'ban' in football.

I wouldnt strip him off his captaincy - he made a mistake and needs to be rightfully punished by the club and the law BUT the mistake doesnt deserve an 'eternal' punishment.

Why? Liverpool didn't ban/drop Firmino when he got arrested for drink driving in 2016. They played him 3 days later and he scored, and a national newspaper made light of his arrest (rather distastefully) in their back page headline. If he's fit to play in both a physical and mental sense, and (as we already know to be the case) is free to play in a legal sense, then why would we impose a ban on him to the detriment of the team when our rivals have not done the same, even in very recent instances of a very similar nature?

I get the captaincy point, but lets not kid ourselves - if the armband is taken off him it will be handed to Harry Kane and it will be done primarily for PR reasons (as in it will make sense from hereon not to have Lloris as the face of the club) as much as football reasons or any sense of morality.

I get why its a sensitive topic for some people but there is no reason for the club to take any action which would unnecessarily weaken the team. While it clearly divides opinion, the precedent has been set, over and over again, by other clubs that no 'football punishment' will be required. His police punishment will be determined in a few weeks. Until then he'll speak to the club, agree to keep his down, discuss and reach some form of agreement on the topic of the captaincy, and ought to carry on doing what he's paid to do.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Unbelievably arrogant of him to think he would get away with driving drunk in London, and I thought he was better than that. Police and cameras everywhere, let alone people everywhere on the streets that are at risk.

You're a multi millionaire. Get a fucking taxi and pay somebody to pick your car up the next day. Fucking idiot.

How typically embarrassing for us fans as well, that our captain- our leader, would be this thoughtless. Just hope it doesn't kill the feel-good factor in the dressing room, because that is whats keeping us going at the moment.

 

[Donki]

I agree - but to boldly state we have never put anyone at risk, is to ignore reality. And that is what I responded to.

Drink driving certainly enhances the risk - but so to does texting while driving, or doing anything that distracts us, or keeps us from paying attention. It could be you are angry with your boss, or you are thinking of your plans for later, or looking at someone in the car next to you.

When sober you should be able to judge and act accordingly and keep concentrating even when "distracted" by others. When your under the influence that ability deteriorates substantially.