Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[wrd]

We didn't take our chances. Is that the right answer?

YOU GOT THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS?

 

[vuzp]

still fuming with Lloris, he may as well have thrown the ball in the net and got the OG stat and not have Toby getting it instead,
I like Lloris but he really has let the team badly this season with his errors and kicking,
personally would give Gazza a few games now and see how he does.

 

[Primativ]

In an ideal world I agree, I'd love to see Kane captaining the side leading us into the new era. However this is a decision that needs to be made in the summer, I also struggle to see how we are going to be selling our keeper and getting somebody in when they're so many other issues which are glowing red at the moment. We have the midfield debacle, We have Eriksen that will need replacing either by like-for-like or a change of system, We have Alderweireld who will need replacing because Foyth/Sanchez are still quite raw. We then have issues on both sides with our fullbacks. If we add the keeper to the pile, realistically that's a lot of transfer business for a team who seemingly can't bring a single player in.

Poch needs to make some big decisions, the type Ferguson was never scared to make when a player was no longer up to the level required or had become unreliable. I do have a feeling that is all a bit too comfortable with Poch after 5 years now. Lloris is a weird one as he is basically undroppable as far as Poch is concerned, but he shouldn;t be as he's not good enough.

I agree we need a massive overhaul in the summer and these are worrying times on the pitch for Spurs. Two windows of no signings has meant we are now facing a huge rebuilding job, Trippier and Lloris for me need to be replaced, but we also need to sort out the CM problem, then we also have Eriksen and Toby like you say to replace.

I can't see how any Spurs fan can be confident at the moment, because the problems are there for all to see and as of yet we don't have any solutions. For a club who seem unable to sign a single top player, how on earth are we going to sign 5 or 6 and come out as an improved outfit for next season?

 

[wrd]

Poch needs to make some big decisions, the type Ferguson was never scared to make when a player was no longer up to the level required or had become unreliable. I do have a feeling that is all a bit too comfortable with Poch after 5 years now. Lloris is a weird one as he is basically undroppable as far as Poch is concerned, but he shouldn;t be as he's not good enough.

I agree we need a massive overhaul in the summer and these are worrying times on the pitch for Spurs. Two windows of no signings has meant we are now facing a huge rebuilding job, Trippier and Lloris for me need to be replaced, but we also need to sort out the CM problem, then we also have Eriksen and Toby like you say to replace.

I can't see how any Spurs fan can be confident at the moment, because the problems are there for all to see and as of yet we don't have any solutions. For a club who seem unable to sign a single top player, how on earth are we going to sign 5 or 6 and come out as an improved outfit for next season?

Realistically we aren't going to, Unless Levy does ridiculous business for Eriksen or possibly 1 more top player then we are going to struggle to do the business we need. It's a real shame that I go into every game feeling like no matter how well we do, there's 5/6 players who between them will make that 1 big mistake which costs us dearly.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'm losing brain cells reading this thread. Do people even watch football?

 

[Mattspur]

Tell me the reason we didn’t come away with at least a point form yesterday’s match?

You got the answer to our problems....

Kane for not getting a shot off quicker?
Moura for taking to many touches when he should have shot?
Sissoko for missing a 1 on 1?
Rose for not delivering a simple pass into Kane to score?
Eriksen for not being able to find the net from close range?
Dele for missing the target with his curler?
Trippier for not closing down the cross for the first goal?
Sanchez for losing his man for their first goal?
Vertonghen for not covering the space left by Sanchez for the first goal?
Davies for not marking Salah for their winner?
Toby for the own goal?

Which one were you going for?

 

[Shadydan]

He's a massive issue mate, he costs us far more points than he wins, without a shadow of a doubt.

According to this that isn't true: https://www.skysports.com/football/...errated-the-tottenham-captains-stats-stack-up

I don't think it's as black and white some are making out regarding LLoris, it's true that he's been pretty average this season and probably last season but I reckon dropping him long term causes a massive problem. Me personally would like to fix the full back and midfield issues first and foremost.

 

[blackburn]

There's no need to sell Lloris or buy a replacement, we have a perfectly good one in Gazza. Lloris needs a break, if he comes back from it all well and good but he's become a liability.

Poch needs to send out the message that NOBODY is undroppable.

 

[Shanks]

It happens, doesn’t mean we should replace him.

Toughest position on the pitch being a goalkeeper, outfield players have the luxury of mid placing a pass, or not controlling the ball properly. Goalkeepers don’t.
Yes he should have done better, but it happens to all goalkeepers.

 

[blackburn]

Incidentally I posted this on 26.12.17, check out the responses

I'm expecting a lot of hostility but Lloris has gone at the game, once a keeper loses his confidence he rarely if ever gets it back. I'm his biggest fan, comfortably our best keeper since Clem but there are far too many errors, check out the ratio of goals to shots on targets. Love you Hugo you've been amazing but Butland ( or another) will replace you in the summer.

 

[Primativ]

According to this that isn't true: https://www.skysports.com/football/...errated-the-tottenham-captains-stats-stack-up

I don't think it's as black and white some are making out regarding LLoris, it's true that he's been pretty average this season and probably last season but I reckon dropping him long term causes a massive problem. Me personally would like to fix the full back and midfield issues first and foremost.

I don't need stats to tell me what my eyes are seeing. Lloris is capable of good games and against the faff he is mostly fine, but in the big games he lets us down time and again more often than not. He is our team summed up in one player, which isn't a surprise given he is captain.

I want rid and would be prepared to take the gamble that entails. The guy does my head in now, we've won nothing under his captaincy, and I think he's weak mentally and it permeates throughout the squad. As we've seen with Gazza, there are keepers out there who can step up, Lloris is not a goalkeeping demigod who is irreplaceable. Far from it.

 

[Gassin's finest]

- Eduardo Galeano

 

[SE Spurs]

Makes too many critical, goal conceding mistakes.
His distribution is generally pretty awful.
He doesn't command his area at all, or come for 90% of crosses.
His leadership also has to be questioned, certainly on the field. As captain, he is expected to lead by example, especially in crucial games. But he seems to be impacted by the occasion more than most.

Not many keepers in the PL stay no.1 with this many faults. Certainly not in the top 4. But the problem is, Poch is all about harmony in the squad, that's no.1. And because of this, Hugo will still be keeping, and captaining on Wednesday. And barring injury, will be for the rest of the season. So unless Lloris takes himself out, I don't see how the situation changes any time soon.

So may as well get behind him, and remember the game winning saves he has made, or the pen save against Goons just the other week. And hope he can win us a couple of games, before the end of the season. Because we're sure as shite gonna need him to at some point.

 

[isaac94]

People saying Gazza is not good enough to come in are very harsh imo, in the 11 games his played for us, he has conceded just 9, won 9, and been MOTM in about 6/7 of those games, the only debatable mistake he has made was the opening goal against Chelsea. People are judging him on his past and price tag rather than his current ability, because it is undeniable that this season when played he has looked better than Lloris overall.

 

[Fredo]

Goalkeepers are evolving and it seems like Hugo hasn't evolved into the modern keeper, which includes being good with their feet and mental, which is important especially if we continue to pursue being a team that plays from the back.

Therefore it's time to look elsewhere now. Although I wouldn't say he was the root of our problem, I would presume he would concede less and make less mistakes considerably with an invested team infront of him but still.

 

[JCRD]

Fuckers

 

[Darth Vega]

I guess my question with Hugo is, if he isn't droppable now, then when is he? Another mistake? Another two? How clear and obvious do the howlers have to be?

I think selling him is too drastic - he's still a good keeper - but if you're Gazzaniga, you have to wonder how poor Hugo has to consistently perform before you get to start in the Premier League. Maybe Gazza is shit in training, I don't know, but surely he's knocking on the door by now.

 

[Josiebyar]

I see the keeper as the foundation of a house - you can have all the Kane's and Dele's you want - if your foundation is not up to par you can add all the luxury components you want to the house - one day it will cave in anyway. Unfortunately, this analogy does not go well with actual human beings, seeing that Lloris has caved in and fucked us completely several times this season already.

Reason why Pep and Klopp rushed to sign new keepers...

 

[Josiebyar]

I guess my question with Hugo is, if he isn't droppable now, then when is he? Another mistake? Another two? How clear and obvious do the howlers have to be?

I think selling him is too drastic - he's still a good keeper - but if you're Gazzaniga, you have to wonder how poor Hugo has to consistently perform before you get to start in the Premier League. Maybe Gazza is shit in training, I don't know, but surely he's knocking on the door by now.

Gazza must be thinking how many more blunders are needed for him to be given the nod

 

[nedley]

Has anybody thrown the Jenas article in here?

If not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47768704