Player Watch Player Watch: James Maddison

[S17PUR]

Honestly don't know but I doubt Guimaraes, Trippier, Isak and co went there for the brown ale.

They must be offering a lot and can probably offer more with the CL money.

According to The Athletic article on Newcastle's transfer targets today, Trippier and Isak are their highest earners on £120k a week. Trippier himself said in an interview recently that he took a pay cut to join them.

They are backed by massive wealth but they aren't really able to use it just yet.

 

[Timberwolf]

They have qualified for Europe once in forever amount of years, we did 13 years straight in europe, they I reckon unless they really splash a lot of money we finish above them again this season, not really sure they have overtaken us in any pecking order.

Meant more this season. We all thought it would take Newcastle years to be a more attractive prospect than us in the market, and yet after barely a season under the Saudis they're above us in the league and in the CL ahead of us. Most neutrals would call them a bigger draw than us this summer.

Outside of the absolute mega clubs the pecking order is always pretty fluid - teams are attractive one year and not the next (see Leicester a few years ago) and no-one will care too much about our 13 years of European football when a team like Newcastle is the richest club in the world and had CL ahead of us.

Christ some people on here are defensive. Maybe next year we'll switch back?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Not responding to you specifically but rather this notion I'm seeing a lot now that we're suddenly a significantly worse option than Newcastle for every player.

Yes, they have Champions League football next season and have a boat load of cash (not that they can necessarily spend much more than us if at all), but that's pretty much it, isn't it?

It's very easy to envisage a scenario where they go backwards again next season, as lots of teams underperformed last year that you'd think will improve, they'll have European football to contend with too, and if they do add to the squad it might upset the balance/team spirit.

Then there's the fact that we're a bigger club than Newcastle, we've been more successful than them for a sustained period of time, we've got one of the world's best players and England captain (for now at least), and the world's best stadium and training facilities. We're also in London which is massively more appealing to live in for foreign players in particular than Newcastle.

It's very easy to be down on Spurs at the moment, but we've not become minnows overnight.

I don't think we're a significantly worse option than Newcastle. What I do think is that Maddison will want to test himself in the Champions League. And there is no guarantee we will even finish top 4 next season. Maddison is reaching his peak and if he has the chance to play champions league with a club that is on the up I think he will choose them at this moment in time.

The only incentive he really has to come to us right now is to play with Harry Kane (not a guarantee he will stay), and live in London.

 

[BENNO]

No, we haven’t - but Newcastle have become (clutches for big-fish analogy) whales.

They are the richest team in the league. Qualifying for the champions league and winning stuff will become normal for them.
It’s no bad reflection on us and we still have a chance with Madison if that is who AP wants. Wish we had got him from Norwich in the first place - seemed like a bit if a no brainer at the time.

Aren't there going to be new FFP rules over the next few years where ultimately you have to have a 70% cap on wages/transfers to income ?

Given all the furore surrounding Man City's fines and sports washing in general, i'd assume everyone will be keeping a very close eye on Newcastles sponsorship deals.

They may well have the richest owners in the league but how much they can actually spend and use for wages will be greatly compromised won't it ? (of course that i assuming the governing bodies do their jobs correctly).

 

[barry]

According to The Athletic article on Newcastle's transfer targets today, Trippier and Isak are their highest earners on £120k a week. Trippier himself said in an interview recently that he took a pay cut to join them.

They are backed by massive wealth but they aren't really able to use it just yet.

Course they are, I'm sure Trippier took a pay cut to join a team in a relegation battle. All sounds feasible to me.
In all seriousness they either have ridiculous and easy weekly bonuses, or they're getting money funneled in via illicit means

 

[Impspur1]

If he goes to Newcastle then it is what it is, the club will have to come to terms with the fact it failed to establish itself when the opportunity arose and now they're clubs who are making haste as the sun shines and despite our long standing history in the food chain, they might be perceived higher. Do what can be done if this is who the manager wants but let's not feel sorry for ourselves if it doesn't happen, let's find solutions.

Absolutely this, Newcastle actually buy smart and haven’t just gone down the signing blue chip players. If he goes there he goes there but at leat we are looking to strengthen a really weak area for us

 

[Impspur1]

I don't think we're a significantly worse option than Newcastle. What I do think is that Maddison will want to test himself in the Champions League. And there is no guarantee we will even finish top 4 next season. Maddison is reaching his peak and if he has the chance to play champions league with a club that is on the up I think he will choose them at this moment in time.

The only incentive he really has to come to us right now is to play with Harry Kane (not a guarantee he will stay), and live in London.

He may also fancy a season playing with England’s no.1 striker and captain to help get in the national side?

 

[Albertbarich]

Aren't there going to be new FFP rules over the next few years where ultimately you have to have a 70% cap on wages/transfers to income ?

Given all the furore surrounding Man City's fines and sports washing in general, i'd assume everyone will be keeping a very close eye on Newcastles sponsorship deals.

They may well have the richest owners in the league but how much they can actually spend and use for wages will be greatly compromised won't it ? (of course that i assuming the governing bodies do their jobs correctly).

I don't know how they're going to do it but I have zero faith whatsoever in FFP stopping the Saudis doing whatever they want.

During the LIV golf case they already admitted in court that PIF are one and the same as the Saudi government and the premier league has done nothing about it. They have them all in their pocket, including the government. Very depressing.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Unless there is a huge injection of cash at Newcastle don't see how they are sustainable, their wage/revenue ratio is 95%.
Their revenue is way below Spurs , even without Euro football for a season we can still earn more than they do but we will need to get back in to sustain our future income.

Find & click on Newcastle in the money league to find their figures.

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They've already started leveraging state own commercial deals for additional revenue: https://www.skysports.com/football/...onsorship-deal-with-saudi-events-company-sela

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

He may also fancy a season playing with England’s no.1 striker and captain to help get in the national side?

But it's not guaranteed Kane will be with us next season.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

We keep hearing that Newcastle are the richest club in the world yet Spurs pay higher wages , Kane , Son etc are earning far more than anyone at Newcastle . Spurs can't offer CL to Maddison but on wages they can equal or offer more than Newcastle.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

They've already started leveraging state own commercial deals for additional revenue: https://www.skysports.com/football/...onsorship-deal-with-saudi-events-company-sela

Premier League should act on Newcastle ownership as one of them admitted in the USA that he was a Saudi government official.

 

[Japhet]

Meant more this season. We all thought it would take Newcastle years to be a more attractive prospect than us in the market, and yet after barely a season under the Saudis they're above us in the league and in the CL ahead of us. Most neutrals would call them a bigger draw than us this summer.

Outside of the absolute mega clubs the pecking order is always pretty fluid - teams are attractive one year and not the next (see Leicester a few years ago) and no-one will care too much about our 13 years of European football when a team like Newcastle is the richest club in the world and had CL ahead of us.

Christ some people on here are defensive. Maybe next year we'll switch back?

I don't think we're anywhere near as bad as this season has made us out to be. We/Conte failed repeatedly to do anything about our obvious problems and just kept on repeating the same stuff over and over. Our weaknesses were there for everybody to see and we stuck with the same flawed plan. A bit of flexibility and bravery and we could have been much closer imo. Very much hope Postecoglou can get us playing somewhere near our potential because we were miles off under Conte and Stellini.

 

[Impspur1]

But it's not guaranteed Kane will be with us next season.

Well no but we do t have to tell him

 

[Russ1201]

Unless there is a huge injection of cash at Newcastle don't see how they are sustainable, their wage/revenue ratio is 95%.
Their revenue is way below Spurs , even without Euro football for a season we can still earn more than they do but we will need to get back in to sustain our future income.

Find & click on Newcastle in the money league to find their figures.

Deloitte Football Money League 2024

The 27th edition of the Deloitte Football Money League profiles the highest revenue generating clubs in world football over the 2022/23 season.

www2.deloitte.com

They will find a way around it somehow. Fifa rarely take on the big clubs and win.

 

[Nice One Cyril]

Alex Scott @ Bristol city is the one, Im
Bristolian born and bred and lived like 10 mins from Ashton gate up until about a year ago, seen him a few times and he’s the real deal, few mates & family members still go, and can’t believe he’s still there & think he can have the same impact Bellingham has had if he goes to a bigger team.

Apparently the lad is a Spurs fan as well. (a few mates are ST holders at Ashton Gate)

 

[THOWIG]

Alex Scott @ Bristol city is the one, Im
Bristolian born and bred and lived like 10 mins from Ashton gate up until about a year ago, seen him a few times and he’s the real deal, few mates & family members still go, and can’t believe he’s still there & think he can have the same impact Bellingham has had if he goes to a bigger team.

Incredible talent. Played really well in an England u20 game I saw recently. Playing a deeper role. Great passer.

 

[Tucker]

We need to look past the quality a player may have and ask the question, do they also have the intensity and work rate to play in a high energy, high pressing system?

Go and watch back some Celtic games, even in the CL. There’s no way Maddison can play with that intensity imo, he’s too lazy and his work rate and attitude have been consistently questioned by Leicester fans.

I have some concerns as it is if we try and play both Kane and Son in the attacking 5. If we add Maddison to that, I don’t see any way we play with the super high press and intensity Ange wants. We’d have 3 attackers out of 5 over 27 and 2 over 30, when generally the best high energy teams have younger players.

I’m not worried about Deki as there was a stat a month or 2 ago that he had more pressures than any other player in the league after the World Cup.

But the reports coming out in the last couple of days are saying Postecoglou wants Maddison, some are even saying he’s a key target.

Hard work and running might have been enough in Scotland, but it could well be that he thinks we will need a player like Maddison to implement his plan for Spurs.

 

[ajspurs]

Have seen us linked with Scott to be fair but yeah I think it's a Gallardo type wish


I was thinking about how it's a typical message board type view but I have this wish for us to go down the young hungry up and comer route this window and not established star. So yeah the two you mentioned get my vote for that I'll informed opinion of mine.

Yeah that's fair, I can understand the desire for it but people mention it as if no Maddison would equate to Alex Scott and Lee Kang-in, and I've personally seen nothing to suggest as such.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Where is the optimistic rating?

Don't underestimate the HG factor. Its a plus for any top side if you can fill an empty spot with a HG candidate. Not sure why exactly Leipzig, a club that does not need to sell at all, should sell Szoboszlai, who nearly featured in every game this season.

Fair enough to be questioning me, but I definitely dont think it's too 'optimistic'.

He has a well reported release clause of €70m. And he has also been quite vocal about wanting to leave.



To go into even more detail, he was caught liking posts on Instagram about Newcastle's pending Champions League qualification after they beat Brighton 4-1.