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we do not sell walker UNLESS he pushes for a move, plain and simple. but if he does leave, he is NOT irreplaceable.

walker is a phenomenal athlete that allows him to bomb up and down the pitch. but his offensive and defensive awareness is NOT top class.

he is out of position( in both offense and defense ) most of the time but his athletism and pace allows him to reach where he should have been tactically, even if he reacts late to it.

every player has his pros and cons and this is just what walker is. if a player like walker develops trippier's attacking awareness and technicality then he would become a 70m full back, we are talking about becoming top 3 rb in the world, fucking dani alves in his prime

right now hes arguably top 10 in the world, and you dont let a top 10 rb leave unless you absolutely have to.

that being said, because of the system poch implements, we can have a slightly inferior athlete and still flourish better than walker.

this is exactly the case for trippier.

right now the walker/trippier situation is different from the rose/davies situation because not only rose dribbles better and crosses just as well as davies, he is also a far better athlete making him the bonafide first choice and absolute perfect player in poch system.

walker trippier situation on the other hand, if we compare player to player, walker would be a much better player in a traditional back 4 system because he is the far better athlete.

but because we play with a back 3 nowadays, the responsibility of a FB to support attacks is actually more important than defending because the back mostly guarded by a right sided centre back.

if you are not fast enough in a back 4 formation you are pretty much fucked the moment you dont get back in time (thus benefitting walker more), but in a back 3, as long as you have decent pace, it wouldnt be as big of a problem.

to put it simply, walker is the better traditional back 4 player but trippier is a player whose traits suits our current formation more. this is a great problem to have though, giving us the option to rotate fullbacks depending on which formation we play.
 

bceej

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I would like to keep him but if he wants to go I am saying he is replaceable as we should get an inflated fee for him.

Mario Gaspar Pérez Martínez


Not saying all these guys are Walkers level yet but in our system and with Poch coaching they could do well for us in rotation with Trippier..

Mario Gaspar Pérez Martínez at Villarreal
Benni Henrichs at Leverkusen
Joao Cancelo at Valencia
Kenny Tete at Ajax

or we could just beg Philipp Lahm not to retire and come and play for us for a couple of seasons...

Have thought from what I've seen of him and read of him that Walker-Peters has a number of attributes about him comparable to Lahm. The playmaker tendencies, clear understanding of the game and versatility. Would say he's a nice balance between Walker and Trippier, we just need to see if he can compete at first team level.

Castillo that Chelsea poached from Ajax at LB is very impressive, is Tete similar?
 

ebzrascal

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Have thought from what I've seen of him and read of him that Walker-Peters has a number of attributes about him comparable to Lahm. The playmaker tendencies, clear understanding of the game and versatility. Would say he's a nice balance between Walker and Trippier, we just need to see if he can compete at first team level.

Castillo that Chelsea poached from Ajax at LB is very impressive, is Tete similar?

Tete is probably better defensively quick strong and aggressive.. has good delivery and passing range is a bit older than Castillo so hard to compare. Ajax has produced a few good players for us recently.

This kind of buy I think this would allow us to ease Kyle Walker Peters in next season in the domestic cups as not sure he would be ready if Trippier got injured.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Where did I say that it was going to improve Spurs?
Why would you make a move that does not improve Spurs. Seems rather foolish. Either you keep Walker, because he makes Spurs better, or you sell him on for an inflated fee, because that extra money gives Spurs a chance to improve somewhere else in the squad. You don't flog off an asset just because your feelings were hurt.
 

Shea

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Why would you make a move that does not improve Spurs. Seems rather foolish. Either you keep Walker, because he makes Spurs better, or you sell him on for an inflated fee, because that extra money gives Spurs a chance to improve somewhere else in the squad. You don't flog off an asset just because your feelings were hurt.
Just a silly childish suggestion. It's not serious and isn't in the realms of possibility so isn't worth your time debating
 

The Swellhead Spur

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Why would you make a move that does not improve Spurs. Seems rather foolish. Either you keep Walker, because he makes Spurs better, or you sell him on for an inflated fee, because that extra money gives Spurs a chance to improve somewhere else in the squad. You don't flog off an asset just because your feelings were hurt.
Don't worry I don't think Levy is looking at my post thinking 'this guy is onto something'
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Bottom line is we can only offer our players as much as we can possibly offer whilst staying on a sound financial footing. If said player/s dont think this is good enough then lets just get as much money as we can for them and move on. I used to think football was all about the players but for me it's all about the Manager, this season is proof of that. We have finished above teams who have thrown money at players due to good coaching and recruitment, and a team ethic and spirit created by the Manager.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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I cannot see city coming in for walker, Pep likes his full backs to be tactically flexible. Walker is a great RB but he cannot play centre back nor central mid, as pep sometimes does with his fbs.

Dier on the other hand is another matter.

We won't sell to Chelsea. That leaves United as the only viable option.

I also highly doubt that we would sell to United unless the fee is astronomical, which I doubt United would do.

Which leaves abroad, Real don't need a RB, he is not a Barca player, so the only place I could see him going is bayern. Even then I would be surprised if Bayern would pay that sort of money.

I just cannot see him going unless he kicks up a real fuss and then only abroad.

If City do want him, we have to be looking upwards of 70m. I just can't see it.
 

thebenjamin

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I cannot see city coming in for walker, Pep likes his full backs to be tactically flexible. Walker is a great RB but he cannot play centre back nor central mid, as pep sometimes does with his fbs.

Dier on the other hand is another matter.

We won't sell to Chelsea. That leaves United as the only viable option.

I also highly doubt that we would sell to United unless the fee is astronomical, which I doubt United would do.

Which leaves abroad, Real don't need a RB, he is not a Barca player, so the only place I could see him going is bayern. Even then I would be surprised if Bayern would pay that sort of money.

I just cannot see him going unless he kicks up a real fuss and then only abroad.

If City do want him, we have to be looking upwards of 70m. I just can't see it.


It's pretty obvious city are in for him. Pep even name checked him in a press conference as a top player.

A friend who occasionally gets info from someone he knows on the board told me walker's been offered more than double his contract by city. He went to levy and demanded the same money to stay, levy told him he'd just signed a new deal and the wouldn't be happening. Then Walker started acting up in training so Poch said that's it - he's out at the end of the season.

This was all the week of the semi final and the club is furious, considering reporting city for illegal approach.
 

Galactico14

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I cannot see city coming in for walker, Pep likes his full backs to be tactically flexible. Walker is a great RB but he cannot play centre back nor central mid, as pep sometimes does with his fbs.

Dier on the other hand is another matter.

We won't sell to Chelsea. That leaves United as the only viable option.

I also highly doubt that we would sell to United unless the fee is astronomical, which I doubt United would do.

Which leaves abroad, Real don't need a RB, he is not a Barca player, so the only place I could see him going is bayern. Even then I would be surprised if Bayern would pay that sort of money.

I just cannot see him going unless he kicks up a real fuss and then only abroad.

If City do want him, we have to be looking upwards of 70m. I just can't see it.

His people would have already discussed every detail of his move to whichever club has turned his head, all that will be left is agreeing fee with spurs ... it's the reality of how it works ... No player would say a word or rock the boat unless they knew they had something lined up.
 

tiger666

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His people would have already discussed every detail of his move to whichever club has turned his head, all that will be left is agreeing fee with spurs ... it's the reality of how it works ... No player would say a word or rock the boat unless they knew they had something lined up.

You're implying every transfer involves tapping up?
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Bottom line is we can only offer our players as much as we can possibly offer whilst staying on a sound financial footing. If said player/s dont think this is good enough then lets just get as much money as we can for them and move on. I used to think football was all about the players but for me it's all about the Manager, this season is proof of that. We have finished above teams who have thrown money at players due to good coaching and recruitment, and a team ethic and spirit created by the Manager.

This... I don't want us to throw stupid wages at any of our players, we pay good wages and we offer them a great manager, an excellent opportunity to improve their game and a club with good values and excellent potential.

If an Adebayor esque player becomes available or one of our players wants more than our structure can handle, then it's a no thanks.
 

Mr Pink

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Considering Walker hasn't asked for a transfer, refused to play,direspected our club in any way. i think we should wait until we know the facts to judge...........some of the comments on here are embarrassing discussing who will be replacing him and how we won't miss him, he has been a loyal quality servant here for years ... i think abit of fucking respect due..

I hope he doesn't come on SC....

He's a member on here, but currently banned for abusing BC
 

Bus-Conductor

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Trippier whilst being decent is not an improvement over Walker and we're deluding ourselves believing he is.

I think anyone who thinks Walker is an improvement offensively on Tripper is deluding themselves. Anyone who thinks Walker has better technique under pressure than Trippier is deluding themselves. Anyone who thinks Walker reads the game better than Trippier is deluding themselves. Anyone who thinks Walker thinks quicker than Trippier is deluding themselves. Anyone thinking Walker is loads better than Trippier defensively is deluding themselves.

There, I've completed the set.
 
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