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Player Watch: Marcus Edwards

newbie

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I can't believe the club would entertain such a clause. Sends out the wrong message.

His bloody good unless he developed an attitude problem it's sensible. We need to play more young players and he is a player who will unlock defences, this contract negotiation has been going on a long time so I am sure john mc, levy and poch have an idea what a player he is.
 
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pallettWHL

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Every time I've seen Edwards play he's looked like a superstar, so I think tying him down no matter the cost is essential.

I don't mind if we put a game-time clause in because frankly I'd like to see how he does in the first team. I'm very interested to see how he handles it.
 

EQP

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Every time I've seen Edwards play he's looked like a superstar, so I think tying him down no matter the cost is essential.

I don't mind if we put a game-time clause in because frankly I'd like to see how he does in the first team. I'm very interested to see how he handles it.

For sure, it'll probably be for a set amount of minutes with the reward of playing more if he does well and applies himself in training. I'm all for this, we need to secure our best talents and let Poch and his staff do what they do best and turn them into hardworking, mentally strong players.
 

danielneeds

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It would be interesting how it would be worded in the contract too - would it be a percentage of our games, or minutes?

Because if it was a percentage of games you could fulfil it with loads of 1 minute sub appearances.
 

yanno

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Given how naturally talented Marcus Edwards is, with the ability to beat a defender in a heartbeat and the acceleration to burst past, plus really quick feet, this may well be true. Poch will have been watching Edwards in traiining go against PL quality defenders.

If he's shown that he can beat his man consistently in first team training, Poch may feel this this makes him a potential impact sub despite his young age and small stature.

Here's the scenario. We're drawing at home, last 10-15 minutes, we need a player to come off the bench and take the game to some boring orcs who've parked the bus but whose legs are now tiring. I can see a cameo role and a first team squad number for Marcus Edwards.

Plus it would send an important message cascading through the Academy about our intention to nurture and keep our very best talents.
 

Krafty

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The clauses might be more "you are on this basic wage, but if you play x minutes your wage goes up to this", and so forth, at a much more accelerated rate than usual. I don't think we would offer such a young player a contract that allowed him to leave for cheap/free if he didnt get a certain amount of minutes, would both be counter productive to how Poch manages the player and also susceptible to things like injuries, suspensions, anything
 

EQP

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It just dawned on me, how do we know Onomah didn't sign a similar contract last season stating he would get a squad number and minutes in the first team?
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Disagree when it comes to details like playing time and shirt numbers. Those are very much in the province of the head Coach/Manager, and I expect these decisions are not taken without consulting everyone involved.
@beats1 You really think Poch is not involved in these kind of decisions? That seems naive.

Its not in the club's interest to not have everyone on the same page when it comes to youth prospects. Levy will want input from Poch on where and when a player fits into the team before negotiating pro contracts. If Poch says he has no future here, then Levy does not waste time or resources on a player that will ultimately leave.

And, Edwards won't want to stay unless he knows Poch considers him a future first team player. So, both player and Levy will want Poch's involvement in this negotiation.
 

beats1

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@beats1 You really think Poch is not involved in these kind of decisions? That seems naive.

Its not in the club's interest to not have everyone on the same page when it comes to youth prospects. Levy will want input from Poch on where and when a player fits into the team before negotiating pro contracts. If Poch says he has no future here, then Levy does not waste time or resources on a player that will ultimately leave.

And, Edwards won't want to stay unless he knows Poch considers him a future first team player. So, both player and Levy will want Poch's involvement in this negotiation.
Your think of this far too much, the contracts wont even involve levy for a start.

Also Poch is involved in terms of the general overlook of the academy but at the same time he wont be involved with every player

People are talking about Edwards as a first team player, he hasnt even had a long run in the U21's FFS, though he should have been starting at the end of last season

The negotiations will be handled by Mcdermott and likely either Donna or Rebecca, though their record isn't great at the moment
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Your think of this far too much, the contracts wont even involve levy for a start.

Also Poch is involved in terms of the general overlook of the academy but at the same time he wont be involved with every player

People are talking about Edwards as a first team player, he hasnt even had a long run in the U21's FFS, though he should have been starting at the end of last season

The negotiations will be handled by Mcdermott and likely either Donna or Rebecca, though their record isn't great at the moment
I am sure they are handled by McDermott - but these are not his decisions alone. Again, if there is a playing time clause - that will be run up with Poch, and Edwards will want some assurance as well. And, if Edwards is looking for money above a typical contract, you better believe Levy will sign off on it first. So, while Poch may not be involved with every player - he would be involved with Edwards - again assuming these clauses are being negotiated.

As for Edwards being a first team player - count me as skeptical, but I am just going on the assumption that he wants, and Spurs are considering, a playing time clause. I don't think either side want to waste their time unless there is some likelihood of being able to meet those playing time requirements. Hence Poch has been involved in the discussions - if those clauses are present.
 

rambu

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If it's true, and if it's indeed an unusual demand from someone that young and the club still granted it...then it tells me how far the club is willing to go to have him on board.

Edwards might really be more than just hype.
 

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I am sure they are handled by McDermott - but these are not his decisions alone. Again, if there is a playing time clause - that will be run up with Poch, and Edwards will want some assurance as well. And, if Edwards is looking for money above a typical contract, you better believe Levy will sign off on it first. So, while Poch may not be involved with every player - he would be involved with Edwards - again assuming these clauses are being negotiated.

As for Edwards being a first team player - count me as skeptical, but I am just going on the assumption that he wants, and Spurs are considering, a playing time clause. I don't think either side want to waste their time unless there is some likelihood of being able to meet those playing time requirements. Hence Poch has been involved in the discussions - if those clauses are present.

Agreed levy will have an involvement let's not forget he is our higest profile young player and a player who could be worth 100 million in a few years, plus we have lost a few top players from our accademy in recent times there is no way levy and poch are not involved.


If poch wants long term success at spurs we will have to not spurn the best young players in our accademy.
 
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