Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[Stoof]

Because people keep quoting him and he replies.
Might as well not have opinions in any player thread, just use it as a store for rumours and speculation.
Conte wants player x you can't have an opinion. Funny when we were being linked with Amrabat nobody felt that way ?

“Might as well not have opinions” is such a cop out for people simply not agreeing with your stance. People will call people out for saying stuff that’s nonsense - that doesn’t mean you’re being picked on, that means you’ve obviously said something that a large majority don’t agree with. And that large majority are welcome to have their opinions too.

 

[amathews3416]

I don't see what makes him hard working? He didn't seem to work particularly hard when compared to other Everton players.

My conclusion that he has a bad attitude is just based on my observations.

Did you not watch any of Everton’s final 7-8 fixtures when they were sitting 19th and the team looked like they quit. Richarlison carried them out of relegation and elevated the entire squad with his determination and work rate.
For me, that shows a lot about a man’s character. When things are going South, the entire team sulking, would have been easy for their biggest star to quit. Instead, he took his game to the next level.

 

[McFlash]

I don't think anyone minds a substantiated opinion.

When people essentially declare the guy useless with no substantiation whatsoever - which you did a few pages back - what do you expect people to do exactly?

And yet he clicked disagree to this post, which was just my stating that I'd changed my opinion on Richarlson.
No substantiation or explanation, just a little red tick. ?

I'm sure I said earlier in this thread that I wouldn't want to see him in our shirt.
Well, I've kinda changed my mind now and thanks to some of you beautiful bastards, I've started to come round to the idea.

Think he could be an astute signing, especially if we could get him for somewhere around the 50m mark.
There's not many more suitable players out there for less.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

lol, Im always going to laugh at sort of fans that are being unrealistic and unpragmatic. Especially ones with a built in victim mentality.

Dont be so hyperbolic, we would never be seriously threatened if we sold Kane. You know how bad the bottom of league is? Also we played half the season with a Kane who downed tools which was much worse than not having Kane at all, and we never came close.

We were heading for disaster on the pitch, that much is certain. If levy hadn't acted and got paratici in, I shudder to think where we would be.

Our signings weren't far away from Everton, signings like lo Celso, bergwijn, ndombele etc...

Our trust in inferior players like winks, Dele, Sissoko etc..

If we had sold Kane and continued our history of signing players not suited to the premier league we would have been in real trouble sooner or later.

Paratici and Conte have saved us, before we were amateurs. Willing to pay 27m for bergwijn and not 15m Bowen or 25m grealish. Paying 50m for ndombele and not half of that for ward prowse.

Some of the signings (or lack of) in the 5 years before paratici was nothing short of Incompetent.

Whether this incompetence was due to poch, hitchen or Levy I am not sure, but we were run almost as awfully as Everton (in terms of play incomings/outgoings).

Anyway richarlison, the price should be an issue. We have money but we are still a business and we have to pay a fair price. A starter for Brazil, premiership proven, decent goalscoring record in a shit team, their star player. It won't be cheap unless Everton are desperate.

 

[DenverSpur]

Tall; quick; strong; skillful; versatile. We aren't going to get anyone much better suited to our needs than Richarlison given that we already have Son and Kane. As to the suggested price, that's more a consequence of the ridiculous inflation in the transfer market. You can hardly expect to buy a 25 year old, PL proven, Brazilian international forward for any less than £50m these days. In case anyone needs reminding of what he could bring to us (quite apart from providing direly needed cover and rotation option):

Agree 100%. If he played for CarlosKickaBall Utd in some foreign league everyone in here would be screaming that we should just pay what they want.
Liverpool are going to pay Benfica nearly 85 million for a player who’s never played in the PL, only played 2 years in Europe and only in the last year has he impressive numbers. Granted he does look the real deal but not everyone adapts to the PL.

 

[dontcallme]

Agree 100%. If he played for CarlosKickaBall Utd in some foreign league everyone in here would be screaming that we should just pay what they want.
Liverpool are going to pay Benfica nearly 85 million for a player who’s never played in the PL, only played 2 years in Europe and only in the last year has he impressive numbers. Granted he does look the real deal but not everyone adapts to the PL.

That's just not true. Loads of posters are saying the Liverpool deal for Nunez is a big risk.

We're a board that never unanimously agrees on anything.

 

[DenverSpur]

That's just not true. Loads of posters are saying the Liverpool deal for Nunez is a big risk.

We're a board that never unanimously agrees on anything.

I never said the Nunez deal isn’t a big risk. In fact I implied it was.

 

[dontcallme]

I never said the Nunez deal isn’t a big risk. In fact I implied it was.

My point being that the idea that we'd all be in favour if he came from abroad is just not true.

 

[SpartanSpur]

That's just not true. Loads of posters are saying the Liverpool deal for Nunez is a big risk.

We're a board that never unanimously agrees on anything.

That is undeniably true.

However I'd wager the venn diagram of people that don't rate Richarlison but got excited for the Antony link would be very close to a single circle.

 

[Nerine]

Jesus.

Some like him. Some do not.
Some think he's too expensive. Some do not.
Some think he'll fit in. Some do not.
Blah blah blah

Arguing the toss either way is very unlikely to change the opinion of another.*

The club will decide whether he's too expensive at whatever transfer fee is being mooted. So that's in safe hands. The caveat being that there's risk in any transfer, obviously, so no real need to harp on about that. The club will decide if it's value and will evaluate the risk accordingly.
Nearly every player we have bought has divided opinion in some way. Repeating that opinion ad nauseam is tiresome and unneeded.
Will he improve the squad? In my view, yes. You may think not, although I struggle to see why given the evidence we have seen and the fact he's a relatively known entity. *See underlined point.

The bickering is pretty pointless. Because that's what it basically is. Bickering. The actual discussion stopped pages back.

 

[double0]

It is all relative, but would you have been happy spending £70M on Fraser Forster to be back up to Lloris? I think it is safe to say that the majority of Spurs fans generally want to see the first team squad improving but not at any cost. Richarlison is not an obvious upgrade on any of our fort three, but instead a useful addition to the squad and can play anywhere across the front 3 in a rotation system (which we will need to implement). If we spend significantly over the odds for squad players it means we may not have funds for key positions (i.e. starting upgrades). That is why.

If Conte wants him then your reasonings off. We need quality and competition throughout the squad to the extent when we need to rotate players the level isn't significantly dropped. Note Winks... if any of our midfield players become injured and we need to use Winks omg do we struggle.

Sanchez on the other hand imo is superb quality I'm personally happy for him starting.

 

[chrisd2k]

Because people keep quoting him and he replies. FFS.
Might as well not have opinions in any player thread, just use it as a store for rumours and speculation.
Conte wants player x you can't have an opinion. Funny when we were being linked with Amrabat nobody felt that way ?

Didn't see the lock

“Might as well not have opinions” is such a cop out for people simply not agreeing with your stance. People will call people out for saying stuff that’s nonsense - that doesn’t mean you’re being picked on, that means you’ve obviously said something that a large majority don’t agree with. And that large majority are welcome to have their opinions too.

Completely missed my point but that's cool I'm leaving it there now.

 

[Timberwolf]

We were heading for disaster on the pitch, that much is certain. If levy hadn't acted and got paratici in, I shudder to think where we would be.

Our signings weren't far away from Everton, signings like lo Celso, bergwijn, ndombele etc...

Our trust in inferior players like winks, Dele, Sissoko etc..

If we had sold Kane and continued our history of signing players not suited to the premier league we would have been in real trouble sooner or later.

Paratici and Conte have saved us, before we were amateurs. Willing to pay 27m for bergwijn and not 15m Bowen or 25m grealish. Paying 50m for ndombele and not half of that for ward prowse.

Some of the signings (or lack of) in the 5 years before paratici was nothing short of Incompetent.

Whether this incompetence was due to poch, hitchen or Levy I am not sure, but we were run almost as awfully as Everton (in terms of play incomings/outgoings).

Anyway richarlison, the price should be an issue. We have money but we are still a business and we have to pay a fair price. A starter for Brazil, premiership proven, decent goalscoring record in a shit team, their star player. It won't be cheap unless Everton are desperate.

Yeah it's easy to forget how close we were to a proper disaster last season.

If we didn't manage to get a generational manager like Conte who gave the entire club a kick up the arse, it's really not hard to imagine the club slipping into mid-table mediocrity for a while.

Doesn't matter if players like Bergwijn, Lo Celso and Ndombele are talented footballers - if you keep spending big money and wages on players who don't really contribute to the first team then eventually you're going to come unstuck and go the way of teams like Everton or Villa pre-Championship. It took Conte (and Paratici to a lesser degree) to recongise that and revolutionise the way we do our transfer business.

If we'd lost Kane last summer, Conte wouldn't have come and who knows what would've happened next if we got the next manager appointment wrong too?

 

[Stoof]

Didn't see the lock

Completely missed my point but that's cool I'm leaving it there now.

Good idea.

 

[lottie222]

Decent penalty taker isn’t he, as is Perisic - might Liverpool our way to a trophy this season

He won't be taking pens methinks.

 

[SandroClegane]

He won't be taking pens methinks.

If a match goes to pens he definitely would be taking one of the 5.

 

[curlacious]

Jesus.

Some like him. Some do not.
Some think he's too expensive. Some do not.
Some think he'll fit in. Some do not.
Blah blah blah

Arguing the toss either way is very unlikely to change the opinion of another.*

The club will decide whether he's too expensive at whatever transfer fee is being mooted. So that's in safe hands. The caveat being that there's risk in any transfer, obviously, so no real need to harp on about that. The club will decide if it's value and will evaluate the risk accordingly.
Nearly every player we have bought has divided opinion in some way. Repeating that opinion ad nauseam is tiresome and unneeded.
Will he improve the squad? In my view, yes. You may think not, although I struggle to see why given the evidence we have seen and the fact he's a relatively known entity. *See underlined point.

The bickering is pretty pointless. Because that's what it basically is. Bickering. The actual discussion stopped pages back.

The exquisite irony is that your excellent post will be within minutes lost in an avalanche of bickering.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

The exquisite irony is that your excellent post will be within minutes lost in an avalanche of bickering.

No it wont

 

[Pat Rice Spurs fan]

Sat at work, across from an Everton fan. He's no personal knowledge but says that their forum ITKs are suggesting Moura could be involved in any Richarlison deal.

 

[Wick3d]

Sat at work, across from an Everton fan. He's no personal knowledge but says that their forum ITKs are suggesting Moura could be involved in any Richarlison deal.

It is a bit odd seeing as Moura wants to return to Brazil in the near future