Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[Styopa]

Defoe and Kane you always felt where a threat, often you don’t with Richy

they also shot!

we get in to good positions just don’t shoot

I think partly it’s that someone like Defoe was much easier on the eye than Richarlison. He was more exciting to watch whereas Richarlison can look quite clumsy. But Defoe’s output during his second, longest and most prolific spell here was 79 goals in 186 appearances whereas Richy’s record before joining us was 53 goals in 152 appearances since his move to England. 0.4 goals p match v 0.3 p match, and of course Richarlison was playing in inferior teams.

I’m just making the point that we probably need to be a bit more reasonable sometimes with what we can realistically expect.

 

[Danny1]

It’s a bit like the old Fergie follow up manager. Any manager that replaced him had an impossible task to be honest.

It’s the same with Kane. His finishing is unreal, probably the most clinical finisher in all of world football currently, so anyone following that has a ridiculously difficult task. Add to the fact Kane was also excellent with the ball at his feet it makes it so much more difficult.

Ultimately, Richarlison has 6 goals and 3 assists and is averaging a goal every 150 mins which is the 9th best in the league. His work rate is very very good and I want to see how he gets on for the rest of the season. If he can get 15-20 goals then that is a great return from him.

We cannot expect him to be at Kanes level because there are probably only 2/3 in the world that are.

 

[newbie]

I think partly it’s that someone like Defoe was much easier on the eye than Richarlison. He was more exciting to watch whereas Richarlison can look quite clumsy. But Defoe’s output during his second, longest and most prolific spell here was 79 goals in 186 appearances whereas Richy’s record before joining us was 53 goals in 152 appearances since his move to England. 0.4 goals p match v 0.3 p match, and of course Richarlison was playing in inferior teams.

I’m just making the point that we probably need to be a bit more reasonable sometimes with what we can realistically expect.

Inferior team is misleading, they might have played far more to his strengths

I think his more of an instinctive finisher, we also a lot of the time need to shoot, and not flaff about.

we also nedd to get the ball in the box a lot quicker that would help richy

 

[Styopa]

Inferior team is misleading, they might have played far more to his strengths

Yeah this is true, and it may well have been the case with Richy at Everton. Although I think he played under several different coaches and (presumably) systems there (Marco Silver, Carlo Ancelloti and Rafa Benitez) and he also has a decent scoring record for Brazil.

I think at the moment he’s on course to score maybe 12 league goals this season, which as I mentioned before is ok if not spectacular at this level.

 

[newbie]

Yeah this is true, and it may well have been the case with Richy at Everton. Although I think he played under several different coaches and (presumably) systems there (Marco Silver, Carlo Ancelloti and Rafa Benitez) and he also has a decent scoring record for Brazil.

I think at the moment he’s on course to score maybe 12 league goals this season, which as I mentioned before is ok if not spectacular at this level.

Or we could say conte played completely against his strengths

I think his playing alright he just needs to improve his finishing it’s the same shots he keeps missing.

 

[bubble07]

Think Werner will outscore him

 

[theShiznit]

Think Werner will outscore him

All that i can see that Richarlison has over Werner is a bit of extra height and putting himself about a bit.

Werner has better technique (ball striking and control) pace, mobility, awareness, movement, can play well in good pass and move sides (Chelsea not applicable)

It was a (literally ) crying shame that Veliz got injured when he did as he would have been on much earlier than Scarlett was, and would've got a lot of minutes this month.

 

[mil1lion]

yup, I really do think Richy was kind of our big money spending saying we are here with the big boys after getting Conte as he was coming in as our 4th attacker at the time. Much like Liverpool have a bunch of expensive attackers even though they already have their front 3.

Plus he covers all attacking positions so was always a smart signing even if Kane stayed. End of the day we still needed another center forward to replace Kane in the summer. I see Richarlison as someone we spent good money on because for years we had trouble getting a good 9. So 60m to have a prem proven player with plenty of years in the tank was better than each year wasting money on Jansen or Soldado etc. The fact he can play wide also meant he could still get games when Kane was here.

 

[thebenjamin]

Or we could say conte played completely against his strengths

I think his playing alright he just needs to improve his finishing it’s the same shots he keeps missing.

It's not the finishing that bothers me, it's the total inability to hold the ball up or play with his back to goal. 9 times out of 10 he just falls over.

 

[Freddie]

It’s a bit like the old Fergie follow up manager. Any manager that replaced him had an impossible task to be honest.

It’s the same with Kane. His finishing is unreal, probably the most clinical finisher in all of world football currently, so anyone following that has a ridiculously difficult task. Add to the fact Kane was also excellent with the ball at his feet it makes it so much more difficult.

Ultimately, Richarlison has 6 goals and 3 assists and is averaging a goal every 150 mins which is the 9th best in the league. His work rate is very very good and I want to see how he gets on for the rest of the season. If he can get 15-20 goals then that is a great return from him.

We cannot expect him to be at Kanes level because there are probably only 2/3 in the world that are.

It's not just the Kane thing. I think we've probably had 10 better strikers than Richy since 2000. The one thing he has going for him above the others is his willingness to press which is important in this system but in terms of talent/finishing/creating his own chances or for others/ingenuity/skill/technique he's way down on the list.

 

[Freddie]

Plus he covers all attacking positions so was always a smart signing even if Kane stayed. End of the day we still needed another center forward to replace Kane in the summer. I see Richarlison as someone we spent good money on because for years we had trouble getting a good 9. So 60m to have a prem proven player with plenty of years in the tank was better than each year wasting money on Jansen or Soldado etc. The fact he can play wide also meant he could still get games when Kane was here.

No he doesn't. He offers even less from those positions. Yes, he'll play there but he's not anywhere near the required level there.

 

[mil1lion]

No he doesn't. He offers even less from those positions. Yes, he'll play there but he's not anywhere near the required level there.

Maybe not on the right but he was looking fine on the left before surgery. He's certainly a good option that side. He was involved in a few good goals there.

 

[theShiznit]

No he doesn't. He offers even less from those positions. Yes, he'll play there but he's not anywhere near the required level there.

You could argue that he is decent from the left and that is where he was most effective for Everton where he rarely played in the 9. But from the right he offers nothing.

 

[amathews3416]

10th overall in PL in G/A per 90. He is contributing at a high level.

 

[Freddie]

Maybe not on the right but he was looking fine on the left before surgery. He's certainly a good option that side. He was involved in a few good goals there.

You could argue that he is decent from the left and that is where he was most effective for Everton where he rarely played in the 9. But from the right he offers nothing.

Granted, he's ok at times on the left but not good enough to warrant that fee given his limitations in his best position. The likes of Jota/Trossard play similar roles of covering all attacking positions and were cheaper. Hard to describe Richy as a smart signing. The big money signings have to be elite and make us significantly better, not be a 6 or 7 out of 10 in a few roles.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

I read about Sessegnon, how he was infinitely better than Reggie, smooth and silky like a rolls royce and score goals for fun like gareth bale.

Later on i read opinions about the prowess of Djed Spence, how he would become one of the best right back in the league with his lightning pace and dribbling ability.

Now i read all these comments underrating an in form Richarlison.
Judging by precedent, It bodes well that he will succeed.

Lets Go Richie!

 

[NEVILLEB]

It’s a bit like the old Fergie follow up manager. Any manager that replaced him had an impossible task to be honest.

It’s the same with Kane. His finishing is unreal, probably the most clinical finisher in all of world football currently, so anyone following that has a ridiculously difficult task. Add to the fact Kane was also excellent with the ball at his feet it makes it so much more difficult.

Ultimately, Richarlison has 6 goals and 3 assists and is averaging a goal every 150 mins which is the 9th best in the league. His work rate is very very good and I want to see how he gets on for the rest of the season. If he can get 15-20 goals then that is a great return from him.

We cannot expect him to be at Kanes level because there are probably only 2/3 in the world that are.

Who expects him to be at Kane’s level??

 

[SpursSince1980]

Right now he is out best player at holding the ball centrally. Also, the most industrious of the front three. Always puts in a shift. Which is a very important factor when it comes to transitioning the ball upfield and breaking the press.

Is he a world class 9? Of course not. And I’m sure upgrades will be considered over the summer. But he will do for now

 

[tooey]

His numbers this year are obviously better but he doesn't and never has passed the eye test. A bit clumsy, lacks composure, slow, offside far too often, no real trickery or bravery on the ball.

What he does bring is some industry, he's good in the air and is an annoyance for the opposition. That's not enough for me. We need to get shot if the right money gets offered.

 

[jpascavitz]

His numbers this year are obviously better but he doesn't and never has passed the eye test. A bit clumsy, lacks composure, slow, offside far too often, no real trickery or bravery on the ball.

What he does bring is some industry, he's good in the air and is an annoyance for the opposition. That's not enough for me. We need to get shot if the right money gets offered.

I would just argue you need a player like him in the squad sometimes. I know Ange's style of football is pretty, free-flowing footy but I've read over and over that often in Ange's system the CF gets the fewest touches of the ball. It happened to Kyogo, Son, and Richy in that role.

However, Son is a potent finisher, yet still can be effective at LW as he's shown. Richy is good physically and I think he's shown that he can come in and change a match through aerial threat. I hope he continues his form because I think he could be a good ST/squad option.

It's hard to go from Kane to Richy, but he does have his use. I think sadly we're just so used to seeing the quality of Kane as an overall footballer in the side. I like Richy as a Llorente (prob a better footballer overall than FL) type option in the squad. We'll have to see what Werner can do as well, as he's more of the pacey option.