Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[dontcallme]

For the next person who rights off a young promising player, just remember.....

Serge Gnabry.

Yep, lets never have an opinion on a young player again because sometimes people get it wrong.

 

[dtxspurs]

For the next person who rights off a young promising player, just remember.....

Serge Gnabry.

Andros Townsend

 

[nedley]

Yep, lets never have an opinion on a young player again because sometimes people get it wrong.

People can have opinions. That's fine. But what we can't do is right them off with a unmovable belief that they'll never amount to anything. Players improve at different rates.

I dont rate Gedson. I'm not sure what he's about. My gut feeling is he'll never make the grade with us but I do recognise that he's a young highly rated player and he could flourish in the right environment.

The older the player gets the less chance of a dramatic improvement. But again I never expected the improvement from Sissoko.

I was a football match away from getting a full tattoo sleeve dedicated to the great man.

 

[dontcallme]

People can have opinions. That's fine. But what we can't do is right them off with a unmovable belief that they'll never amount to anything. Players improve at different rates.

I dont rate Gedson. I'm not sure what he's about. My gut feeling is he'll never make the grade with us but I do recognise that he's a young highly rated player and he could flourish in the right environment.

The older the player gets the less chance of a dramatic improvement. But again I never expected the improvement from Sissoko.

I was a football match away from getting a full tattoo sleeve dedicated to the great man.

So you want to sit on the fence safe in the knowledge you can never be wrong.

Just because some don't think Sessegnon has a high ceiling doesn't mean they won't support him or acknowledge if he does well.

 

[nedley]

So you want to sit on the fence safe in the knowledge you can never be wrong.

Just because some don't think Sessegnon has a high ceiling doesn't mean they won't support him or acknowledge if he does well.

I haven't said as such.

Christ. Some of you lot are hard fucking work.

 

[nedley]

So you want to sit on the fence safe in the knowledge you can never be wrong.

Just because some don't think Sessegnon has a high ceiling doesn't mean they won't support him or acknowledge if he does well.

I suppose what I'm saying is that he does have a high ceiling.

Only time will show whether he can reach it.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I suppose what I'm saying is that he does have a high ceiling.

Only time will show whether he can reach it.

I thought Rose was a bang average destined to be a low premier league/high championship left sided midfielder that wasn’t quick enough or skillful enough to be a winger. My ex-housemate who was a Bristol City season ticket holder didn’t think he was good enough for them. He turned out to be pretty good. Sessegnon excelled at championship level so there is plenty of hope for him yet.

 

[dontcallme]

I suppose what I'm saying is that he does have a high ceiling.

Only time will show whether he can reach it.

I rate him and think he'll become a very good player but not the very top level, few do.

I just don't care if others don't think he'll come good,

 

[nedley]

I rate him and think he'll become a very good player but not the very top level, few day.

I just don't care if others don't think he'll come good,

OK.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Right them off or write them off?

Righto, sessegnon is a left sided player and a write off?

Best thing for the lad is a season long loan with a recall clause (or however it works) as it is clear from JM that he wont be trusted just yet. Lad has oodles of potential with experience and coaching. I remind confident he will come good.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Right them off or write them off?

Righto, sessegnon is a left sided player and a write off?

Best thing for the lad is a season long loan with a recall clause (or however it works) as it is clear from JM that he wont be trusted just yet. Lad has oodles of potential with experience and coaching. I remind confident he will come good.

Remind or remain?

 

[nedley]

Right them off or write them off?

Righto, sessegnon is a left sided player and a write off?

Best thing for the lad is a season long loan with a recall clause (or however it works) as it is clear from JM that he wont be trusted just yet. Lad has oodles of potential with experience and coaching. I remind confident he will come good.

Remind or remain. That is the question.

 

[S17PUR]

Andros Townsend

Who was it on here who was obsessed with Andros many years ago? I can distinctly remember taking abuse off him because I strongly disagreed with his assertion that Townsend would be better than Robben.

Anyway, there's obviously a reason why Sessegnon was considered one of the hottest young talents in Europe as recently as two seasons ago. For me he's seemed to play with a lot of fear for us so far, reluctant to attack his opposing full back and worried about losing the ball. I'd like to see him get more opportunities with us this coming season, but failing that I think a loan abroad somewhere like Germany would do him more good than staying in England.

 

[joey55]

For the next person who rights off a young promising player, just remember.....

Serge Gnabry.

But look at this. Surely you can see Gnabry is showing that he's potentially a special talent. He's doing that against Prem opposition (sadly us) and it was our strongest side. What game have you ever seen of Sessegnon where he's showed ability like that? Gnabry might have struggled to make an impact when he was younger, but you'd have to be blind to watch this clip and not see there is a special talent there. Sessengnon achieved a lot more when he was younger, but there are no signs he has a special ability.



I'm not saying Sessegnon doesn't have the potential to make it with us and be a top LB. He's got all the tools. But you just can't compare him with a talent like Gnabry, or Sancho or any other really technically gifted, attacking player, as the raw ability simply isn't there. There is no game of Sessegnon looking like a potential world beater, as he's never been one.

 

[emiley heskey]

For the next person who rights off a young promising player, just remember.....

Serge Gnabry.

Clinton njie

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

I must remind myself to spell check.

 

[yido_number1]

But look at this. Surely you can see Gnabry is showing that he's potentially a special talent. He's doing that against Prem opposition (sadly us) and it was our strongest side. What game have you ever seen of Sessegnon where he's showed ability like that? Gnabry might have struggled to make an impact when he was younger, but you'd have to be blind to watch this clip and not see there is a special talent there. Sessengnon achieved a lot more when he was younger, but there are no signs he has a special ability.



I'm not saying Sessegnon doesn't have the potential to make it with us and be a top LB. He's got all the tools. But you just can't compare him with a talent like Gnabry, or Sancho or any other really technically gifted, attacking player, as the raw ability simply isn't there. There is no game of Sessegnon looking like a potential world beater, as he's never been one.

Watch video's of Kane at Norwich or Leicester and see if you can see that special player that will have a shot at becoming the premier league all time top scorer. Sessegnon had an amazing Championship season as a kid and scored and assisted for what was a pretty average team. He came to his first new club with a major injury and hasn't found his rhythm or confidence yet.

He'd probably benefit from a loan this season to get game time and refind himself. I don't we've helped him trying to make him a defender. He needs to be a strong runner further forwards.

 

[Yid-ol]

I must remind myself to spell check.

It's like this

C H E C K

 

[Havre]

Watch video's of Kane at Norwich or Leicester and see if you can see that special player that will have a shot at becoming the premier league all time top scorer. Sessegnon had an amazing Championship season as a kid and scored and assisted for what was a pretty average team. He came to his first new club with a major injury and hasn't found his rhythm or confidence yet.

He'd probably benefit from a loan this season to get game time and refind himself. I don't we've helped him trying to make him a defender. He needs to be a strong runner further forwards.

I just wonder if we got hooked on Sessegnon early and then we weren't able to update ourselves.

Watch Dier as a DM from some years ago. Or that Alli season. Do anyone really believe we will ever see that Alli again? I don't see a special player in Sessegnon at all - and my guess he just had almost like a fluke season one year and that is it.

Not that I have given up completely. He has pace and he hits the ball oh so sweetly. My guess is though if he ever makes it it will be Kyle Walker style up and down from a full back position. Not at strong as Walker of course, but with a better cross. As a winger I don't think he will ever become anything. I don't see it. Obviously I could be wrong. I'm still waiting for Dean Marney to make that full back position his.

 

[joey55]

Watch video's of Kane at Norwich or Leicester and see if you can see that special player that will have a shot at becoming the premier league all time top scorer. Sessegnon had an amazing Championship season as a kid and scored and assisted for what was a pretty average team. He came to his first new club with a major injury and hasn't found his rhythm or confidence yet.

He'd probably benefit from a loan this season to get game time and refind himself. I don't we've helped him trying to make him a defender. He needs to be a strong runner further forwards.

The Kane example doesn't work. Kane was never touted as a wonder kid. The point with Sessegnon is that he was and the supporting evidence is lacking. If you look at the attributes needed to be an elite attacking wide player, they aren't evident in Sessegnon's game. Hence the video's of him producing mind blowing skills, don't exist, in the way they do for Sancho or Hazard etc. It's simply not random which players go on to be world beaters and which don't. They have to have the attributes to support the "potential" claims. You simply won't find the videos of Sessegnon hitting screamers from distance, curling the ball with the outside of his foot through a gap or turning several players inside out, or showing insane acceleration etc. Someone compared his situation now with Gnabry and I showed, the key difference.

I'm not saying he won't go on to be a top LB. I've said he's got the tools and I want him to go out on loan and develop. But watching Gnabry dominate in the CL semi final and think Sessegnon can go the same way is extremely far fetched, as Gnabry had all the tools needed to be an elite attacking player and Sess simply doesn't. Now Marcus Edwards, on the other hand, clearly does have the ability, so he would be a more apt comparison with Gnabry. Edwards couldn't get a game with Norwich, yet it's not implausible to imagine him dominating a CL semi final is a few years, if he can physically develop, which doesn't seem that likely.